Getting a frame copper coated

Hi
Anyone tried this or can perhaps recommend a UK company,not looking to
get it plated just a thick natural copper finish,advice on the best
blasting procedure too as I understand it need to be super
smooth,someone suggested a grade 5000 and i'm not wishing to try this.
Thankyou
Graham Parker
Northampton
UK

On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 02:42:50 -0800 (PST), GPNT
wrote:

Hi
Anyone tried this or can perhaps recommend a UK company,not looking to
get it plated just a thick natural copper finish,advice on the best
blasting procedure too as I understand it need to be super
smooth,someone suggested a grade 5000 and i'm not wishing to try this.
Thankyou
Graham Parker
Northampton
UK

Plating is basically the same process regardless of the metal being
plated. The final finish is approximately the finish before dipping in
the plating tank.

As for copper plating, quite frequently objects to be chrome plated
are first copper plated ( something to do with adhesion of the plating
I believe) so check with a few chrome shops and you will likely find a
place that can do it.

Probably the major cost item in plating is the preparation, polishing,
dent filling, etc. If you would be happy with a dull finish you could
have it bead blaster which leaves a matt finish but be much cheaper.
But beware if you try to do the preparation work yourself, any defect
that you can see before it is plated you will still be able to see
after it is plated.




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John B.

On 7-11-2011 13:56, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 02:42:50 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

Hi
Anyone tried this or can perhaps recommend a UK company,not looking to
get it plated just a thick natural copper finish,advice on the best
blasting procedure too as I understand it need to be super
smooth,someone suggested a grade 5000 and i'm not wishing to try this.
Thankyou
Graham Parker
Northampton
UK

Plating is basically the same process regardless of the metal being
plated. The final finish is approximately the finish before dipping in
the plating tank.

As for copper plating, quite frequently objects to be chrome plated
are first copper plated ( something to do with adhesion of the plating
I believe) so check with a few chrome shops and you will likely find a
place that can do it.

Probably the major cost item in plating is the preparation, polishing,
dent filling, etc. If you would be happy with a dull finish you could
have it bead blaster which leaves a matt finish but be much cheaper.
But beware if you try to do the preparation work yourself, any defect
that you can see before it is plated you will still be able to see
after it is plated.




--
John B.


I've got a copper plated frame in the living room, and i have to polish
it from time to time to remove fingers and smudges. The plating is also
pretty soft, so if you use the bike expect it to devellop 'patina' in
record time

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/Marten

info(apestaartje)m-gineering(punt)nl

On Nov 7, 2:42*am, GPNT wrote:
Hi
Anyone tried this or can perhaps recommend a UK company,not looking to
get it plated just a thick natural copper finish,advice on the best
blasting procedure too as I understand it need to be super
smooth,someone suggested a grade 5000 and i'm not wishing to try this.
Thankyou
Graham Parker
Northampton
UK

wlak over to the better auto paint shop, ask for the color catalog.
pick a suitable gold.
could be you'd see something more appropriate ?

GPNT wrote:
Anyone tried this or can perhaps recommend a UK company,not looking to
get it plated just a thick natural copper finish,advice on the best
blasting procedure too as I understand it need to be super
smooth,someone suggested a grade 5000 and i'm not wishing to try this.


Surface needs to be clean of any contaminants (wax, oil,
crud, paint, rust, polishing paste etc)and ideally polished
smooth for a nice appearance. Consult with a plater about
surface finish requirements and ask to see examples.

Every blemish scratch and ding will magnify once plated. If
you don't mind it looking like crap then don't polish it.

These guys near you pop up in a quick search:
http://www.nmpltd.co.uk/


--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Nov 7, 5:24*pm, AMuzi wrote:
GPNT wrote:
Anyone tried this or can perhaps recommend a UK company,not looking to
get it plated just a thick natural copper finish,advice on the best
blasting procedure too as I understand it need to be super
smooth,someone suggested a grade 5000 and i'm not wishing to try this.

Surface needs to be clean of any contaminants (wax, oil,
crud, paint, rust, polishing paste etc)and ideally polished
smooth for a nice appearance. *Consult with a plater about
surface finish requirements and ask to see examples.

Every blemish scratch and ding will magnify once plated. If
you don't mind it looking like crap then don't polish it.

These guys near you pop up in a quick search:http://www.nmpltd.co.uk/

--
Andrew Muzi
* www.yellowjersey.org/
* Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Thanks guys as mentioned not wishing to get it plated,it will be a
dull copper finish but thick enough so I can polish it from time to
time,that's the plan anyway looking to pay upto £100,thanks for the
link Andrew that place can't handle large items like frames.
Graham Parker

On Nov 7, 9:33*am, GPNT wrote:
On Nov 7, 5:24*pm, AMuzi wrote:





GPNT wrote:
Anyone tried this or can perhaps recommend a UK company,not looking to
get it plated just a thick natural copper finish,advice on the best
blasting procedure too as I understand it need to be super
smooth,someone suggested a grade 5000 and i'm not wishing to try this..

Surface needs to be clean of any contaminants (wax, oil,
crud, paint, rust, polishing paste etc)and ideally polished
smooth for a nice appearance. *Consult with a plater about
surface finish requirements and ask to see examples.

Every blemish scratch and ding will magnify once plated. If
you don't mind it looking like crap then don't polish it.

These guys near you pop up in a quick search:http://www.nmpltd.co.uk/

--
Andrew Muzi
* www.yellowjersey.org/
* Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Thanks guys as mentioned not wishing to get it plated,it will be a
dull copper finish but thick enough so I can polish it from time to
time,that's the plan anyway looking to pay upto £100,thanks for the
link Andrew that place can't handle large items like frames.
Graham Parker- Hide quoted text -

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you're a plumber ?

GPNT wrote:
On Nov 7, 5:24 pm, AMuzi wrote:
GPNT wrote:
Anyone tried this or can perhaps recommend a UK company,not looking to
get it plated just a thick natural copper finish,advice on the best
blasting procedure too as I understand it need to be super
smooth,someone suggested a grade 5000 and i'm not wishing to try this.
Surface needs to be clean of any contaminants (wax, oil,
crud, paint, rust, polishing paste etc)and ideally polished
smooth for a nice appearance. Consult with a plater about
surface finish requirements and ask to see examples.

Every blemish scratch and ding will magnify once plated. If
you don't mind it looking like crap then don't polish it.

These guys near you pop up in a quick search:http://www.nmpltd.co.uk/


Thanks guys as mentioned not wishing to get it plated,it will be a
dull copper finish but thick enough so I can polish it from time to
time,that's the plan anyway looking to pay upto £100,thanks for the
link Andrew that place can't handle large items like frames.

Copper is electroplated to the substrate. If you don't want
it plated, then Gene's suggestion of similar colored paint
is apt. Cheaper too.

Plating firms have been relentlessly tortured by regulation
to near extinction. Few obstinate firms have survived and
their future looks bleak.

Background on electroplating processes:
http://www.saskschools.ca/curr_conte...x/redox3_4.htm

p.s. A bicycle frame requires multiple cathode placement to
get even plate coverage.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

he's a banker !

riders get worked up abt paint, finish. the paint color catalog is
worth your time.

BTW have you viewed MB's new gullwing's looooong nose chrome finish ?
could be there's a copper to go with.

pollutional minor industries like fabric dyeing, once rife along the
Susquehanna in Pennsylvania leading to the disease stricken
Cheeseapeake (sic) dumped the used dye stuff water from large bioling
kettle directly into the river.
now, that dumping occurs at for example Lesotho.

kolldata wrote:
he's a banker !

riders get worked up abt paint, finish. the paint color catalog is
worth your time.

BTW have you viewed MB's new gullwing's looooong nose chrome finish ?
could be there's a copper to go with.

pollutional minor industries like fabric dyeing, once rife along the
Susquehanna in Pennsylvania leading to the disease stricken
Cheeseapeake (sic) dumped the used dye stuff water from large bioling
kettle directly into the river.
now, that dumping occurs at for example Lesotho.


Bob Jackson (now Jackson-Hetchins) example he
http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfr...t/JRJACK07.JPG

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Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971