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Frank, Jay's and SMS's greatest dreams appear to have come true.
On Sun, 08 Nov 2020 10:05:01 +0700, John B.
wrote: There is also some evidence that, in N. America, instances may have existed of deliberate infection of Indians for the purpose of exterminating them. The Indians learn quickly: "A Strange but True Tale of Voter Fraud and Bioterrorism" https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/06/a-strange-but-true-tale-of-voter-fraud-and-bioterrorism/372445/ Ooops. Wrong type of Indian. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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Frank, Jay's and SMS's greatest dreams appear to have come true.
On Sun, 8 Nov 2020 08:15:05 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
wrote: On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 7:05:08 PM UTC-8, John B. wrote: rOn Sat, 7 Nov 2020 21:40:32 -0500, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 11/7/2020 5:47 PM, John B. wrote: From what I read the Spanish/Portuguese enslaved the native populations in S. American and much of the native population succumbed to European diseases whereupon they imported what were apparently more robust people from Africa... That's interesting. I forget if it was _Guns, Germs & Steel_ or some other book that noted that natives of the Americas had much less versatile immune systems. Those of the old world (including, I suppose, Africa) had long since acquired immunity to many zoonotic (animal borne) diseases due to a long history of agriculture. Indigenous Americans had much less of that. I'm not sure if it was the immune system per se or whether it was the exposure to new diseases for which they had developed no immunity that did them in but they certainly died in droves. But I also read that Europeans tended to be far more diseased then residents of the "new world" so many arrived with a disease which, of course infected everyone that they came in contact with. There is also some evidence that, in N. America, instances may have existed of deliberate infection of Indians for the purpose of exterminating them. So, you have completely lost the idea that the pilgrims were very strict Christians have you? So you're willing not to invent history wholesale. What do you mean by "strict Christian"? Do you mean someone who strictly follows the teaching of Jesus the Christ? -- Cheers, John B. |
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Frank, Jay's and SMS's greatest dreams appear to have come true.
On Sun, 08 Nov 2020 08:15:09 -0800, Jeff Liebermann
wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2020 14:06:05 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sat, 07 Nov 2020 22:06:52 -0800, Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 18:51:09 -0800 (PST), jbeattie wrote: We've gotten Chinese knock-offs under every administration. Yep. I like to dabble in fixing chainsaws: http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/pics/chainsaw/#chain-saws-02.jpg There are similarities between chainsaws and bicycles, but I won't go there. You can buy ALL the parts to build a counterfeit name brand chainsaw online. For example: https://www.farmertec.com Just buy a "complete repair kit" and assembly the saw. For example, various Stihl chainsaws: https://www.farmertec.com/Saw-Repair-Kits-c2971.html The kits are priced at about what a used saw, in good condition, would sell for on eBay. I wonder how long it will be before we start seeing such "kits" for higher end bicycles? Of course, some expertise might be needed to do the work, but I don't believe that's a major obstacle. The benefit to the distributor is that there's probably no warranty on the assembled bicycle. So, let's see if the Biden regime will restrict importation of such knock-offs. My guess(tm) is they'll just tax them because the government obviously needs the money more than the domestic few remaining domestic manufacturers. Right now Alibaba lists a 11 speed all carbon bike with 6800 shifting and Shimano RS11 wheels for as low as $70, in lots. So you import a container load and say triple or quadruple the retail price? So $280 for an all carbon/Shimano bike? https://tinyurl.com/y3suhvud Yes, but that's not a knock-off of an existing high end bicycle. To do that in the manner I'm suggesting, the bicycle would not have a name inscribed on the frame and not be delivered mostly assembled. Instead, it would be a parts kit, shipped as a "maintenance kit", to be assembled by a US dealer or the end user. See the chainsaw "maintenance kit" for an example. My guess(tm) is a much lower price than the mostly assembled bicycle on Alibaba. On the positive side, such a kit might enable a LBS (local bike shop) to remain competitive. It might also encourage serious riders to purchase multiple spare short-lifetime bicycles that are simply replaced rather than serviced. I was in a shop recently that sold "decals". Not only did they stock many common decals - Bianchi, Cannondale, etc., but you could even design your own decals and they would print them for you. Think of it! The Brand New JEFF Bike is here NOW! (10% discount if order received in the next week) -- Cheers, John B. |
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On Sunday, 8 November 2020 18:03:29 UTC-5, John B. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Nov 2020 08:15:09 -0800, Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2020 14:06:05 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sat, 07 Nov 2020 22:06:52 -0800, Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 18:51:09 -0800 (PST), jbeattie wrote: We've gotten Chinese knock-offs under every administration. Yep. I like to dabble in fixing chainsaws: http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/pics/chainsaw/#chain-saws-02.jpg There are similarities between chainsaws and bicycles, but I won't go there. You can buy ALL the parts to build a counterfeit name brand chainsaw online. For example: https://www.farmertec.com Just buy a "complete repair kit" and assembly the saw. For example, various Stihl chainsaws: https://www.farmertec.com/Saw-Repair-Kits-c2971.html The kits are priced at about what a used saw, in good condition, would sell for on eBay. I wonder how long it will be before we start seeing such "kits" for higher end bicycles? Of course, some expertise might be needed to do the work, but I don't believe that's a major obstacle. The benefit to the distributor is that there's probably no warranty on the assembled bicycle. So, let's see if the Biden regime will restrict importation of such knock-offs. My guess(tm) is they'll just tax them because the government obviously needs the money more than the domestic few remaining domestic manufacturers. Right now Alibaba lists a 11 speed all carbon bike with 6800 shifting and Shimano RS11 wheels for as low as $70, in lots. So you import a container load and say triple or quadruple the retail price? So $280 for an all carbon/Shimano bike? https://tinyurl.com/y3suhvud Yes, but that's not a knock-off of an existing high end bicycle. To do that in the manner I'm suggesting, the bicycle would not have a name inscribed on the frame and not be delivered mostly assembled. Instead, it would be a parts kit, shipped as a "maintenance kit", to be assembled by a US dealer or the end user. See the chainsaw "maintenance kit" for an example. My guess(tm) is a much lower price than the mostly assembled bicycle on Alibaba. On the positive side, such a kit might enable a LBS (local bike shop) to remain competitive. It might also encourage serious riders to purchase multiple spare short-lifetime bicycles that are simply replaced rather than serviced. I was in a shop recently that sold "decals". Not only did they stock many common decals - Bianchi, Cannondale, etc., but you could even design your own decals and they would print them for you. Think of it! The Brand New JEFF Bike is here NOW! (10% discount if order received in the next week) -- Cheers, John B. That sure does make you wonder what you're actually getting when you buy a used bike; or a bike online from an unknown seller. Cheers |
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On Sun, 8 Nov 2020 17:31:37 -0800 (PST), Sir Ridesalot
wrote: On Sunday, 8 November 2020 18:03:29 UTC-5, John B. wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2020 08:15:09 -0800, Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Sun, 08 Nov 2020 14:06:05 +0700, John B. wrote: On Sat, 07 Nov 2020 22:06:52 -0800, Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 18:51:09 -0800 (PST), jbeattie wrote: We've gotten Chinese knock-offs under every administration. Yep. I like to dabble in fixing chainsaws: http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/pics/chainsaw/#chain-saws-02.jpg There are similarities between chainsaws and bicycles, but I won't go there. You can buy ALL the parts to build a counterfeit name brand chainsaw online. For example: https://www.farmertec.com Just buy a "complete repair kit" and assembly the saw. For example, various Stihl chainsaws: https://www.farmertec.com/Saw-Repair-Kits-c2971.html The kits are priced at about what a used saw, in good condition, would sell for on eBay. I wonder how long it will be before we start seeing such "kits" for higher end bicycles? Of course, some expertise might be needed to do the work, but I don't believe that's a major obstacle. The benefit to the distributor is that there's probably no warranty on the assembled bicycle. So, let's see if the Biden regime will restrict importation of such knock-offs. My guess(tm) is they'll just tax them because the government obviously needs the money more than the domestic few remaining domestic manufacturers. Right now Alibaba lists a 11 speed all carbon bike with 6800 shifting and Shimano RS11 wheels for as low as $70, in lots. So you import a container load and say triple or quadruple the retail price? So $280 for an all carbon/Shimano bike? https://tinyurl.com/y3suhvud Yes, but that's not a knock-off of an existing high end bicycle. To do that in the manner I'm suggesting, the bicycle would not have a name inscribed on the frame and not be delivered mostly assembled. Instead, it would be a parts kit, shipped as a "maintenance kit", to be assembled by a US dealer or the end user. See the chainsaw "maintenance kit" for an example. My guess(tm) is a much lower price than the mostly assembled bicycle on Alibaba. On the positive side, such a kit might enable a LBS (local bike shop) to remain competitive. It might also encourage serious riders to purchase multiple spare short-lifetime bicycles that are simply replaced rather than serviced. I was in a shop recently that sold "decals". Not only did they stock many common decals - Bianchi, Cannondale, etc., but you could even design your own decals and they would print them for you. Think of it! The Brand New JEFF Bike is here NOW! (10% discount if order received in the next week) -- Cheers, John B. That sure does make you wonder what you're actually getting when you buy a used bike; or a bike online from an unknown seller. Cheers There is old saying, something about one "pays your money and takes your pick" so if you buy an cheap bike that is probably what you will get. The idea that one will somehow discover a real gem for a cheap price is usually just a pipe dream. -- Cheers, John B. |
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On Mon, 09 Nov 2020 06:03:23 +0700, John B.
wrote: I was in a shop recently that sold "decals". Not only did they stock many common decals - Bianchi, Cannondale, etc., They're also all over eBay: https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=bicycle+decals I was thinking of customizing my bicycles with a decal, but couldn't think of anything appropriate. Perhaps "HUNCHBACK" in Italian? Checking Google Translate, it's "GOBBA". Yeah, that would be a good name for a bicycle. but you could even design your own decals and they would print them for you. Think of it! The Brand New JEFF Bike is here NOW! (10% discount if order received in the next week) No imagination. I would prefer something like: Crime paid for this bike. If you can read this, we're going to crash. No reading while riding. Super Spreader. This isn't the bicycle that you're looking for. Or maybe multiple labels with all the major parts identified as in: top tube, seat tube, down tube, chain stay, fore, aft, etc. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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On Sun, 08 Nov 2020 18:08:47 -0800, Jeff Liebermann
wrote: On Mon, 09 Nov 2020 06:03:23 +0700, John B. wrote: I was in a shop recently that sold "decals". Not only did they stock many common decals - Bianchi, Cannondale, etc., They're also all over eBay: https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=bicycle+decals I was thinking of customizing my bicycles with a decal, but couldn't think of anything appropriate. Perhaps "HUNCHBACK" in Italian? Checking Google Translate, it's "GOBBA". Yeah, that would be a good name for a bicycle. I'm not sure about that as with a tiny bit different pronouncement that means something altogether different see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhDxFfJY00Y but you could even design your own decals and they would print them for you. Think of it! The Brand New JEFF Bike is here NOW! (10% discount if order received in the next week) No imagination. I would prefer something like: Crime paid for this bike. If you can read this, we're going to crash. No reading while riding. Super Spreader. This isn't the bicycle that you're looking for. Or maybe multiple labels with all the major parts identified as in: top tube, seat tube, down tube, chain stay, fore, aft, etc. -- Cheers, John B. |
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On 11/8/2020 8:08 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Mon, 09 Nov 2020 06:03:23 +0700, John B. wrote: I was in a shop recently that sold "decals". Not only did they stock many common decals - Bianchi, Cannondale, etc., They're also all over eBay: https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=bicycle+decals I was thinking of customizing my bicycles with a decal, but couldn't think of anything appropriate. Perhaps "HUNCHBACK" in Italian? Checking Google Translate, it's "GOBBA". Yeah, that would be a good name for a bicycle. but you could even design your own decals and they would print them for you. Think of it! The Brand New JEFF Bike is here NOW! (10% discount if order received in the next week) No imagination. I would prefer something like: Crime paid for this bike. If you can read this, we're going to crash. No reading while riding. Super Spreader. This isn't the bicycle that you're looking for. Or maybe multiple labels with all the major parts identified as in: top tube, seat tube, down tube, chain stay, fore, aft, etc. This was a big deal 10~12 years ago: http://exclaim.ca/music/article/this...use_bomb_scare -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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Frank, Jay's and SMS's greatest dreams appear to have come true.
On Wednesday, November 4, 2020 at 9:32:25 AM UTC-6, wrote:
From the looks of it at this point the election fraud strategy of the Democrats appears to have succeeded. What is going to happen to this country under Biden is going to show the social media tech giants that financed it that perhaps their childish judgements are not as bright as they thought they were. Under the Democrat communism that is coming you are not only a loser but so is every other person in this country. Always Remember, Orange Man Bad and Dementia Joe Good. We will have a country run by the Chinese Communist Party and if you think that they treat their own population bad you ain't seen nothing yet. Chinese racism is a thousand times what American racism ever was. At least Jay and Frank will enjoy their final hours believing in their success. |
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Frank, Jay's and SMS's greatest dreams appear to have come true.
On Wednesday, November 4, 2020 at 9:32:25 AM UTC-6, wrote:
From the looks of it at this point the election fraud strategy of the Democrats appears to have succeeded. What is going to happen to this country under Biden is going to show the social media tech giants that financed it that perhaps their childish judgements are not as bright as they thought they were. Under the Democrat communism that is coming you are not only a loser but so is every other person in this country. Always Remember, Orange Man Bad and Dementia Joe Good. We will have a country run by the Chinese Communist Party and if you think that they treat their own population bad you ain't seen nothing yet. Chinese racism is a thousand times what American racism ever was. At least Jay and Frank will enjoy their final hours believing in their success. Imagine being this brainwashed by the neofascist disinformation borg that you think a mainline corporate Democrat is a communist and you troll a cycling newsgroup. Get a mental health assessment, buddy. |
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