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"Mrcheerful" wrote in message ... I thought that there was safety in numbers? http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archive...ing_busier.php Lovely quote in that piece: "However, almost three out of four racing cyclists said the other cyclist caused the accident." Looks like when there are no motorists around to blame, they have to resort to blaming each other! Quite nicely shoots down their usual claim that the cyclists is never, ever at fault. |
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On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 10:46:06 +0100, Tarcap wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote in message ... I thought that there was safety in numbers? http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2014/04/ cycle_lanes_are_getting_busier.php Lovely quote in that piece: "However, almost three out of four racing cyclists said the other cyclist caused the accident." Looks like when there are no motorists around to blame, they have to resort to blaming each other! Quite nicely shoots down their usual claim that the cyclists is never, ever at fault. Who made that claim? |
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"Peter Keller" wrote in message ... On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 10:46:06 +0100, Tarcap wrote: "Mrcheerful" wrote in message ... I thought that there was safety in numbers? http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2014/04/ cycle_lanes_are_getting_busier.php Lovely quote in that piece: "However, almost three out of four racing cyclists said the other cyclist caused the accident." Looks like when there are no motorists around to blame, they have to resort to blaming each other! Quite nicely shoots down their usual claim that the cyclists is never, ever at fault. Who made that claim? Psycholists. Regularly. |
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On 24/04/2014 09:50, Peter Keller wrote:
On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 10:46:06 +0100, Tarcap wrote: "Mrcheerful" wrote in message ... I thought that there was safety in numbers? http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2014/04/ cycle_lanes_are_getting_busier.php Lovely quote in that piece: "However, almost three out of four racing cyclists said the other cyclist caused the accident." Looks like when there are no motorists around to blame, they have to resort to blaming each other! Quite nicely shoots down their usual claim that the cyclists is never, ever at fault. Who made that claim? Various posters here for a start. Whenever an incident is reported or discussed, any blame that can be attributed is invariably attributed to the operators of involved motor vehicles, or to the authorities (especially if it's anything to do with Boris) or both. Even in clear cut-cases of appalling behaviour by a cyclist, he will usually be defended on the spurious basis that cycles/cyclists cannot do any serious harm to anyone and/or that damage to property is of no significance. |
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On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 12:49:59 +0100, JNugent
wrote: On 24/04/2014 09:50, Peter Keller wrote: On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 10:46:06 +0100, Tarcap wrote: "Mrcheerful" wrote in message ... I thought that there was safety in numbers? http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2014/04/ cycle_lanes_are_getting_busier.php Lovely quote in that piece: "However, almost three out of four racing cyclists said the other cyclist caused the accident." Looks like when there are no motorists around to blame, they have to resort to blaming each other! Quite nicely shoots down their usual claim that the cyclists is never, ever at fault. Who made that claim? Various posters here for a start. Whenever an incident is reported or discussed, any blame that can be attributed is invariably attributed to the operators of involved motor vehicles, or to the authorities (especially if it's anything to do with Boris) or both. Even in clear cut-cases of appalling behaviour by a cyclist, he will usually be defended on the spurious basis that cycles/cyclists cannot do any serious harm to anyone and/or that damage to property is of no significance. Cite? I have certainly seen posters here, me included, advocating strict liability for motorists - but never have I seen people suggesting that cyclists are never at fault. I would be interested to see that cite which you will undoubtedly provide to support this claim. |
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On 24/04/2014 13:07, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 12:49:59 +0100, JNugent wrote: On 24/04/2014 09:50, Peter Keller wrote: On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 10:46:06 +0100, Tarcap wrote: "Mrcheerful" wrote in message ... I thought that there was safety in numbers? http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2014/04/ cycle_lanes_are_getting_busier.php Lovely quote in that piece: "However, almost three out of four racing cyclists said the other cyclist caused the accident." Looks like when there are no motorists around to blame, they have to resort to blaming each other! Quite nicely shoots down their usual claim that the cyclists is never, ever at fault. Who made that claim? Various posters here for a start. Whenever an incident is reported or discussed, any blame that can be attributed is invariably attributed to the operators of involved motor vehicles, or to the authorities (especially if it's anything to do with Boris) or both. Even in clear cut-cases of appalling behaviour by a cyclist, he will usually be defended on the spurious basis that cycles/cyclists cannot do any serious harm to anyone and/or that damage to property is of no significance. Cite? Grow up. I have certainly seen posters here, me included, advocating strict liability for motorists - but never have I seen people suggesting that cyclists are never at fault. I would be interested to see that cite which you will undoubtedly provide to support this claim. |
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On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 13:28:50 +0100, JNugent
wrote: On 24/04/2014 13:07, Bertie Wooster wrote: On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 12:49:59 +0100, JNugent wrote: On 24/04/2014 09:50, Peter Keller wrote: On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 10:46:06 +0100, Tarcap wrote: "Mrcheerful" wrote in message ... I thought that there was safety in numbers? http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2014/04/ cycle_lanes_are_getting_busier.php Lovely quote in that piece: "However, almost three out of four racing cyclists said the other cyclist caused the accident." Looks like when there are no motorists around to blame, they have to resort to blaming each other! Quite nicely shoots down their usual claim that the cyclists is never, ever at fault. Who made that claim? Various posters here for a start. Whenever an incident is reported or discussed, any blame that can be attributed is invariably attributed to the operators of involved motor vehicles, or to the authorities (especially if it's anything to do with Boris) or both. Even in clear cut-cases of appalling behaviour by a cyclist, he will usually be defended on the spurious basis that cycles/cyclists cannot do any serious harm to anyone and/or that damage to property is of no significance. Cite? Grow up. Does that mean you have no evidence to support your claim? I have certainly seen posters here, me included, advocating strict liability for motorists - but never have I seen people suggesting that cyclists are never at fault. I would be interested to see that cite which you will undoubtedly provide to support this claim. |
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On 24/04/2014 13:34, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 13:28:50 +0100, JNugent wrote: On 24/04/2014 13:07, Bertie Wooster wrote: On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 12:49:59 +0100, JNugent wrote: On 24/04/2014 09:50, Peter Keller wrote: On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 10:46:06 +0100, Tarcap wrote: "Mrcheerful" wrote in message ... I thought that there was safety in numbers? http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2014/04/ cycle_lanes_are_getting_busier.php Lovely quote in that piece: "However, almost three out of four racing cyclists said the other cyclist caused the accident." Looks like when there are no motorists around to blame, they have to resort to blaming each other! Quite nicely shoots down their usual claim that the cyclists is never, ever at fault. Who made that claim? Various posters here for a start. Whenever an incident is reported or discussed, any blame that can be attributed is invariably attributed to the operators of involved motor vehicles, or to the authorities (especially if it's anything to do with Boris) or both. Even in clear cut-cases of appalling behaviour by a cyclist, he will usually be defended on the spurious basis that cycles/cyclists cannot do any serious harm to anyone and/or that damage to property is of no significance. Cite? Grow up. Does that mean you have no evidence to support your claim? It means that I am not going to scrabble around to find instances of that which you already know quite well to be true. Don't resort to lies. |
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On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 13:43:05 +0100, JNugent
wrote: On 24/04/2014 13:34, Bertie Wooster wrote: On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 13:28:50 +0100, JNugent wrote: On 24/04/2014 13:07, Bertie Wooster wrote: On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 12:49:59 +0100, JNugent wrote: On 24/04/2014 09:50, Peter Keller wrote: On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 10:46:06 +0100, Tarcap wrote: "Mrcheerful" wrote in message ... I thought that there was safety in numbers? http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2014/04/ cycle_lanes_are_getting_busier.php Lovely quote in that piece: "However, almost three out of four racing cyclists said the other cyclist caused the accident." Looks like when there are no motorists around to blame, they have to resort to blaming each other! Quite nicely shoots down their usual claim that the cyclists is never, ever at fault. Who made that claim? Various posters here for a start. Whenever an incident is reported or discussed, any blame that can be attributed is invariably attributed to the operators of involved motor vehicles, or to the authorities (especially if it's anything to do with Boris) or both. Even in clear cut-cases of appalling behaviour by a cyclist, he will usually be defended on the spurious basis that cycles/cyclists cannot do any serious harm to anyone and/or that damage to property is of no significance. Cite? Grow up. Does that mean you have no evidence to support your claim? It means that I am not going to scrabble around to find instances of that which you already know quite well to be true. I don't know that at all. Don't resort to lies. "I would be interested to see that cite which you will undoubtedly provide to support this claim." I apologise for any lie in the above. |
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