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On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 17:52:07 -0600, "Edward Dolan"
wrote: I believe JFK was killed to prevent him from withdrawing from Vietnam. We did, of course, start the whole war to PREVENT free unifying elections from taking place as required by the 1954 Geneva Convention. We, of course, being so dedicated to democracy, refused to sign those accords because they promised free elections. Ho Chi Minh would have won overwhelmingly. The above is spoken like a true communist sympathizer, but that is what I have been saying about liberals all of my life. All liberals are treasonous wretches at heart. They are also cowards who never met a war they liked. Note well how Obama and the liberal Dems are looking for ways to back out of Afghanistan. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota The fact that it happens to be true is lost on you? We always talk about Democracy, but we mean Free Enterprise. If a democratic election would install someone opposed to Free Enterprise, then we do all in our power to overthrow the winner. The actual quote from Eisenhower was "80 per cent of the population would have voted for the Communist Ho Chi Minh" over Emperor Bao Dai. So we refused to allow the election to take place. And now, that the horrible Commies have taken over Vietnam, they are the #1 consumer of Coca Cola in the region. |
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"dgk" wrote in message ... On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 17:52:07 -0600, "Edward Dolan" wrote: Edward Dolan did NOT write: I believe JFK was killed to prevent him from withdrawing from Vietnam. We did, of course, start the whole war to PREVENT free unifying elections from taking place as required by the 1954 Geneva Convention. We, of course, being so dedicated to democracy, refused to sign those accords because they promised free elections. Ho Chi Minh would have won overwhelmingly. Edward Dolan wrote: The above is spoken like a true communist sympathizer, but that is what I have been saying about liberals all of my life. All liberals are treasonous wretches at heart. They are also cowards who never met a war they liked. Note well how Obama and the liberal Dems are looking for ways to back out of Afghanistan. The fact that it happens to be true is lost on you? We always talk about Democracy, but we mean Free Enterprise. If a democratic election would install someone opposed to Free Enterprise, then we do all in our power to overthrow the winner. The actual quote from Eisenhower was "80 per cent of the population would have voted for the Communist Ho Chi Minh" over Emperor Bao Dai. So we refused to allow the election to take place. You can't have a democratic election that makes any sense when you have a civil war ongoing and everyone is in fear of their lives. Democracies require peace and quiet. And now, that the horrible Commies have taken over Vietnam, they are the #1 consumer of Coca Cola in the region. Vietnam is a basket case just like all liberal-socialist-communist régimes are. I give you North Korea as the best exemplar of the species. The people can be starving to death and the government does not give a damn. That is communism for you! Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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Edward Dolan wrote:
Vietnam is a basket case just like all liberal-socialist-communist régimes are. I give you North Korea as the best exemplar of the species. The people can be starving to death and the government does not give a damn. That is communism for you! http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3607/...654dcbe3_b.jpg |
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"Chalo" wrote in message ... Edward Dolan wrote: Vietnam is a basket case just like all liberal-socialist-communist régimes are. I give you North Korea as the best exemplar of the species. The people can be starving to death and the government does not give a damn. That is communism for you! http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3607/...654dcbe3_b.jpg Thanks for the picture of the Brooklyn Bridge, but it is spoiled by those ne'er-do-wells at the base of it. This human scum needs to be rounded up and warehoused in a State Hospital or a Poor House, if any such good institutions still exist in this land of plenty. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:08:22 -0600, "Edward Dolan"
wrote: "dgk" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 17:52:07 -0600, "Edward Dolan" wrote: Edward Dolan did NOT write: I believe JFK was killed to prevent him from withdrawing from Vietnam. We did, of course, start the whole war to PREVENT free unifying elections from taking place as required by the 1954 Geneva Convention. We, of course, being so dedicated to democracy, refused to sign those accords because they promised free elections. Ho Chi Minh would have won overwhelmingly. Edward Dolan wrote: The above is spoken like a true communist sympathizer, but that is what I have been saying about liberals all of my life. All liberals are treasonous wretches at heart. They are also cowards who never met a war they liked. Note well how Obama and the liberal Dems are looking for ways to back out of Afghanistan. The fact that it happens to be true is lost on you? We always talk about Democracy, but we mean Free Enterprise. If a democratic election would install someone opposed to Free Enterprise, then we do all in our power to overthrow the winner. The actual quote from Eisenhower was "80 per cent of the population would have voted for the Communist Ho Chi Minh" over Emperor Bao Dai. So we refused to allow the election to take place. You can't have a democratic election that makes any sense when you have a civil war ongoing and everyone is in fear of their lives. Democracies require peace and quiet. There was no civil war. The French withdrew in 1954 (the US funded 70% of the French war effort) and Vietnam was temporarily divided. Unifying elections were to be held in 1956. The US side refused to allow those elections because they were going to lose. Then the civil war began, but it wasn't really a civil war. It was Vietnamese nationalists fighting foreign imperialist occupiers and their collaborators. And now, that the horrible Commies have taken over Vietnam, they are the #1 consumer of Coca Cola in the region. Vietnam is a basket case just like all liberal-socialist-communist régimes are. I give you North Korea as the best exemplar of the species. The people can be starving to death and the government does not give a damn. That is communism for you! Vietnam Today: http://www.haivenu-vietnam.com/vietnam-today.htm Note the list of credit cards accepted at the bottom. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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"dgk" wrote in message ... On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:08:22 -0600, "Edward Dolan" wrote: [...] You can't have a democratic election that makes any sense when you have a civil war ongoing and everyone is in fear of their lives. Democracies require peace and quiet. There was no civil war. The French withdrew in 1954 (the US funded 70% of the French war effort) and Vietnam was temporarily divided. Unifying elections were to be held in 1956. The US side refused to allow those elections because they were going to lose. Then the civil war began, but it wasn't really a civil war. It was Vietnamese nationalists fighting foreign imperialist occupiers and their collaborators. You wouldn't know a civil war if it jumped up and bit you in your ass. You also conflate North Vietnam with South Vietnam, two different countries entirely. Free people NEVER vote to become communists! But who knows, maybe you would! [...] Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:47:11 -0600, "Edward Dolan"
wrote: "dgk" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:08:22 -0600, "Edward Dolan" wrote: [...] You can't have a democratic election that makes any sense when you have a civil war ongoing and everyone is in fear of their lives. Democracies require peace and quiet. There was no civil war. The French withdrew in 1954 (the US funded 70% of the French war effort) and Vietnam was temporarily divided. Unifying elections were to be held in 1956. The US side refused to allow those elections because they were going to lose. Then the civil war began, but it wasn't really a civil war. It was Vietnamese nationalists fighting foreign imperialist occupiers and their collaborators. You wouldn't know a civil war if it jumped up and bit you in your ass. You also conflate North Vietnam with South Vietnam, two different countries entirely. Free people NEVER vote to become communists! But who knows, maybe you would! [...] But, but, let's just say, just suppose. that a commie pinko actually did win a democratic election. Can we then nulify the election because the capitalist lost? |
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"dgk" wrote in message ... On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:47:11 -0600, "Edward Dolan" wrote: "dgk" wrote in message . .. On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:08:22 -0600, "Edward Dolan" wrote: [...] You can't have a democratic election that makes any sense when you have a civil war ongoing and everyone is in fear of their lives. Democracies require peace and quiet. There was no civil war. The French withdrew in 1954 (the US funded 70% of the French war effort) and Vietnam was temporarily divided. Unifying elections were to be held in 1956. The US side refused to allow those elections because they were going to lose. Then the civil war began, but it wasn't really a civil war. It was Vietnamese nationalists fighting foreign imperialist occupiers and their collaborators. You wouldn't know a civil war if it jumped up and bit you in your ass. You also conflate North Vietnam with South Vietnam, two different countries entirely. Free people NEVER vote to become communists! But who knows, maybe you would! [...] But, but, let's just say, just suppose. that a commie pinko actually did win a democratic election. Can we then nulify the election because the capitalist lost? Well Hells Bells, Hamas won an election in the Gaza. So what? Some people are so ****ing ignorant they would vote for Hitler and/or Stalin. I maintain that in a free democratic society no one will ever vote for a tyranny except for crazy *******s like you. In any event, elections are not the be all and end all of a free people. You must have multiple free institutions in operation throughout the society. Otherwise, elections can be nothing but a farce - as they mostly are in third world countries. I can assure you that any elections in Vietnam of yesteryear were a farce as are the elections in Iraq and Afghanistan today. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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"dgk" wrote in message ... [...] But, but, let's just say, just suppose. that a commie pinko actually did win a democratic election. Can we then nulify the election because the capitalist lost? What is this animus against capitalism? All that will ever happen to you under capitalism is that you may starve to death. Under most other forms of governance, you will be quashed like a bug if you dissent in the slightest. Yes, I know, capitalism is merely a form of an economic arrangement, but it insures that you will at least be free. Most socialisms will not allow you to be free. They may or may not feed you, but you will either tow the line or you will be killed. Communism simply doesn't work. It has been tried over and over under every imaginable kind of people, and it simply doesn't work. Why? Because of human nature. Alas, if you want communism to work, you will have to redesign the human species from the genes on up. Sorry DGK, but Marx, Lenin and Stalin were all wrong. If I had to choose between fascism and communism, I would choose fascism. But they were both ideologies of the left and straight from the Devil Himself! Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:24:05 -0600, "Edward Dolan"
wrote: "dgk" wrote in message .. . [...] But, but, let's just say, just suppose. that a commie pinko actually did win a democratic election. Can we then nulify the election because the capitalist lost? What is this animus against capitalism? All that will ever happen to you under capitalism is that you may starve to death. Under most other forms of governance, you will be quashed like a bug if you dissent in the slightest. Yes, I know, capitalism is merely a form of an economic arrangement, but it insures that you will at least be free. Most socialisms will not allow you to be free. They may or may not feed you, but you will either tow the line or you will be killed. Communism simply doesn't work. It has been tried over and over under every imaginable kind of people, and it simply doesn't work. Why? Because of human nature. Alas, if you want communism to work, you will have to redesign the human species from the genes on up. Sorry DGK, but Marx, Lenin and Stalin were all wrong. If I had to choose between fascism and communism, I would choose fascism. But they were both ideologies of the left and straight from the Devil Himself! Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota Well, you nailed one point. Communism doesn't work because it requires that people work for the benefit of the whole. Most people are far too selfish for that approach to work. Facism however is the extreme end of capitalism with the state controlled by corporations. Ultra-right as opposed to ultra-left. As I recall, Communism was to evolve in an industrialized nation like ours, not a backwards agrarian state like Russia. I think, as things worsen in the USA, you may get to live under real facism. I sincerely hope not. |
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