new Ultegra group

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"Nicholas Grieco" wrote:

Announcement of the new Ultegra group, available December 2004.

http://www.shimano-europe.com/cycling/

No great surprises: pinch-bolt cranks, 10-speed, other minor
improvements.

THe interesting question is whether this stuff will trickle down to 105
next year, especially the pinch-bolt crank. As of right now, 105 is the
only Octalink group on the road side (Tiagra and Sora use square-taper
spindles).

On the MTB side, where they got the new crank a year earlier on XTR,
they now have four groups using the new crank: XTR, XT, Saint (think
XT/XTR-level freeride gear), and Hone (slightly cheaper freeride gear).
Two of those are new groups. I don't think they want to add any new road
groups, though.

--
Ryan Cousineau, http://www.wiredcola.com
President, Fabrizio Mazzoleni Fan Club

Welcome inprovements:

52-39-30 triple. Is that a 74 BCD granny?

Lots of low range cassettes, 14-25, 15-25, 16-27!

Can a touring group be far behind?

Kyle


"Nicholas Grieco" wrote in message
link.net...
Announcement of the new Ultegra group, available December 2004.

http://www.shimano-europe.com/cycling/

Welcome inprovements:

52-39-30 triple. Is that a 74 BCD granny?

Lots of low range cassettes, 14-25, 15-25, 16-27!

Can a touring group be far behind?

Kyle


"Nicholas Grieco" wrote in message
link.net...
Announcement of the new Ultegra group, available December 2004.

http://www.shimano-europe.com/cycling/

"Nicholas Grieco" wrote in news:qQmNc.16628
:

http://www.shimano-europe.com/cycling/

My two questions a Is the new group as durable as the old group and,
most importantly, have they solved the rattling-shifter problem yet!

"Nicholas Grieco" wrote in news:qQmNc.16628
:

http://www.shimano-europe.com/cycling/

My two questions a Is the new group as durable as the old group and,
most importantly, have they solved the rattling-shifter problem yet!

Kyle.B.H wrote in message
news:QBvNc.179980$JR4.172509@attbi_s54...

Welcome inprovements:
52-39-30 triple.
[...]

Is that really an improvement? The DA 30-39-53 has a questionable
reputation on RBT, and I thought the Ultegra (6503) 30-42-52 was generally
regarded as shifting better than the DA triple.

[...]
Is that a 74 BCD granny?
Lots of low range cassettes, 14-25, 15-25, 16-27!
Can a touring group be far behind?

The new cassette range is good to see. The crank/ spindle interface is
what's most important to me, though the more ergonomic lever sweep might be
nice. I haven't tried the DA versions yet.

Kyle.B.H wrote in message
news:QBvNc.179980$JR4.172509@attbi_s54...

Welcome inprovements:
52-39-30 triple.
[...]

Is that really an improvement? The DA 30-39-53 has a questionable
reputation on RBT, and I thought the Ultegra (6503) 30-42-52 was generally
regarded as shifting better than the DA triple.

[...]
Is that a 74 BCD granny?
Lots of low range cassettes, 14-25, 15-25, 16-27!
Can a touring group be far behind?

The new cassette range is good to see. The crank/ spindle interface is
what's most important to me, though the more ergonomic lever sweep might be
nice. I haven't tried the DA versions yet.

"Nicholas Grieco" wrote in message
link.net...
Announcement of the new Ultegra group, available December 2004.

http://www.shimano-europe.com/cycling/

All fair and well, but this is just plain ridiculous:

"The Ultegra group also incorporates new pedals: PD-6610 SPD-SL pedals have
been developed with a slightly wider pedal body surface compared to PD-R600,
and the colour matches the new Ultegra group."

So... SPD-SL is now SPD-SL II - after about 1 year. I thought just the
color changed, now they redesign recently redesigned stuff...

Jan

"Nicholas Grieco" wrote in message
link.net...
Announcement of the new Ultegra group, available December 2004.

http://www.shimano-europe.com/cycling/

All fair and well, but this is just plain ridiculous:

"The Ultegra group also incorporates new pedals: PD-6610 SPD-SL pedals have
been developed with a slightly wider pedal body surface compared to PD-R600,
and the colour matches the new Ultegra group."

So... SPD-SL is now SPD-SL II - after about 1 year. I thought just the
color changed, now they redesign recently redesigned stuff...

Jan

I posted:

http://www.shimano-europe.com/cycling/

basjan wrote:

All fair and well, but this is just plain ridiculous:

"The Ultegra group also incorporates new pedals: PD-6610 SPD-SL pedals
have
been developed with a slightly wider pedal body surface compared to
PD-R600,
and the colour matches the new Ultegra group."

So... SPD-SL is now SPD-SL II - after about 1 year. I thought just the
color changed, now they redesign recently redesigned stuff...

I was wondering about that, too. Have any of the other SL pedals undergone
this change? I know the DA pedal got some cosmetic changes after the first
year, but I haven't made the direct comparison.

Is the pedal body of the PD-7800, this year's Dura Ace SPD-SL, different
from the first year, the PD-7750? For that matter, is the pedal body
platform different among DA, Ultegra, and 105?