Cyclists waste petrol

On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 20:12:18 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:



"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
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On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 17:12:09 +0100, Rod Speed
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rbowman wrote
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Ours are low enough so that trucks and vans
can just drive over them, with a shallow curb so
they don't even have to slow down to do that.

The larger ones have a concrete apron for that purpose.
The tiny ones were constructed without thinking that
something like a moving van might need to navigate them.

Ours are fine for that, those and semis can drive right
over them as if they arent there. There is nothing but
concrete in the middle. Can't actually find a street
view of one, our street view is 8 years old now.

Many drivers haven't figured out how they work yet. We have
many four way stops where people take turns in an orderly fashion.

We don't have any of those, one of the two roads at that
intersection always has giveway signs on one of the roads.

They tend to take roundabouts the same, stopping before
entering even if the way is clear, which defeats the purpose.

We don't see that at all, presumably because we don't have
any intersections which don't have giveways on one road.

Some of our chicanes/bulbouts have bollards on them to stop people doing
that, but people have discovered they're just hollow plastic and driven
straight through them, smashing the stupid things to pieces.

We do have some of those, mostly to stop people driving along the
footpaths in the big parks, but they are solid concrete so no one
tries to take them out.

Down in England they criminally damage cars with automatic raising bollards, should you dare to use a bus lane.

On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 20:10:12 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:



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On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 15:14:11 +0100, rbowman wrote:

On 10/02/2018 11:47 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
Ours are low enough so that trucks and vans can
just drive of them, with a shallow curb so they
don't even have to slow down to do that.

The larger ones have a concrete apron for that purpose. The tiny ones
were constructed without thinking that something like a moving van might
need to navigate them.

Many drivers haven't figured out how they work yet. We have many four
way stops where people take turns in an orderly fashion. They tend to
take roundabouts the same, stopping before entering even if the way is
clear, which defeats the purpose.

There's a street near here with literally THIRTY speedbumps, and I mean
the big full length ones right across the road. Even driving at the speed
limit in a car, you get jolted about and a lot of cars (including almost
new ones) scrape their undersides. I watched a bus go along the street,
and the driver was very annoyed, he was accelerating then braking for each
one, and all the passengers were being jolted everywhere. An ambulance
would take an extra 5 minutes to get along the street.

Give us a street view.

And before you say it, yes, it's a council estate road. I do not live in that town, but the next one.
https://goo.gl/maps/j9XZkfojkhM2
And me driving along it at 20mph, the legal limit:
https://youtu.be/4rTu0jVTCK8
I sent that video to the council and told them the bumps were unacceptable. They actually phoned me to tell me I shouldn't be driving at 20 in a 20 zone! I told them to change the speed limit signs to 10 to match the bumps and they said they weren't allowed, I burst out laughing.

The worst of ours is down the main street and that's only got about
5 and no one scrapes going over them and you don't have to slow
down that much only to say 20Kmph

That's ridiculously slow, less than any speed limit we have in the UK.

and the traffic isnt going at
the legal 50 there anyway except at say 6am etc.

You're saying you have to slow to 20 in a 50 zone? Then like ours, the bumps do not match the legal limit.

Again, the street
view is to old to show any of them.

Our street views seem to be very up to date, only a year or 2 old, same for the satellite images.

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news On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 20:26:26 +0100, rbowman wrote:

On 09/30/2018 10:00 AM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 03:12:20 +0100, rbowman
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On 09/10/2018 12:53 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:


Are your roads littered with speed bumps? I go over perhaps 200 a
day.

That cinches it. No trip to the UK for me. Some of our dirt roads
have
speed bumps, aka small boulders, but I've never seen them other than
on
private roads.

Round here they put them in the stupidest of places, for example 10
yards from a junction, where nobody could possibly be speeding anyway.

And apparently they cost £10,000 each to install including paperwork.


We have various 'traffic calming' schemes like roundabouts and bulbouts
but speed bumps would really **** off the snowplow crews to say nothing
of the cops.

Even some of the semi-private areas are getting rid of them. I hit one
of the damn things on my bicycle. The sun was in my eyes and I didn't
see it coming so I taco'd my front wheel and did a face plant. I was
not
happy.

You should have attempted to sue the council (or whatever you call them
over there). Causing injury to a cyclist can't be allowed surely?

I hope I one day catch an old lady tripping over one on my dashcam.
I've
seen it happen before, a pensioner crosses the road and trips on the
stupid thing. But I need proof.

Further north, they have bollards on the narrowing things (we call them
chicanes,

Nope.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicane

I assume that's what you refer to as a bulbout).

Nope
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curb_extension

We seem to have halfway between.

Give us a street view of one of them.

https://goo.gl/maps/FNZFcdeR8J32
I reported this to the council too. The priority sign (to tell which side to wait for the other) requires you to stop when going downhill, just after a blind bend, very dangerous in the winter. Then there's a pedestrian stood on the sticky out bit ready to be flattened by a sliding bus.. When I suggested they reverse the priorities, they told me they didn't want to inconvenience people by having them do a hill start. When I suggested that everyone learns to do a hillstart in their driving test, I got no further replies.

They mean that pedestrians are stood directly in front of oncoming traffic
which has to swerve round them.

Ours have massive concrete things on the road
which means that no one ever drives there.
https://goo.gl/maps/HGqk3Uqxfns

They don't look that big, and they seem to have slopes on the edge so you could go over them easily, much like ours:
https://goo.gl/maps/2bvfpSJk3192
I just drive straight over those.
I once parked quite close to one (for about 5 minutes), requiring passing cars to mount one of the lumps. Some idiot got out and complained he couldn't get through. I asked him why he was driving a car without suspension then walked off. He eventually drove over it very carefully.

A monumentally stupid idea.

Sounds like it.

Councils have way too much money to spend. At least our Conservative party is reducing their funding, but not by anywhere near enough.

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On 10/02/2018 05:01 PM, Rod Speed wrote:


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On 09/30/2018 10:00 AM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 03:12:20 +0100, rbowman
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On 09/10/2018 12:53 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:


Are your roads littered with speed bumps? I go over perhaps 200 a
day.

That cinches it. No trip to the UK for me. Some of our dirt roads
have
speed bumps, aka small boulders, but I've never seen them other
than on
private roads.

Round here they put them in the stupidest of places, for example 10
yards from a junction, where nobody could possibly be speeding
anyway.

And apparently they cost £10,000 each to install including
paperwork.


We have various 'traffic calming' schemes like roundabouts and
bulbouts
but speed bumps would really **** off the snowplow crews to say
nothing
of the cops.

Even some of the semi-private areas are getting rid of them. I hit
one
of the damn things on my bicycle. The sun was in my eyes and I didn't
see it coming so I taco'd my front wheel and did a face plant. I was
not
happy.

You should have attempted to sue the council (or whatever you call
them over there). Causing injury to a cyclist can't be allowed
surely?

I hope I one day catch an old lady tripping over one on my dashcam.
I've seen it happen before, a pensioner crosses the road and trips on
the stupid thing. But I need proof.

Further north, they have bollards on the narrowing things (we call
them chicanes,

Nope.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicane

I assume that's what you refer to as a bulbout).

Nope
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curb_extension


https://missoulian.com/news/local/bi...cc4c03286.html

These are the worst of both. The theory is pedestrians will be out in
the
street, visible, and have a shorter path.

Yeah, we have those outside one of our primary/grade schools.

They suck for bicycles since you're forced out in the traffic lane, and
are difficult for trucks and buses to navigate.

There are also micro-roundabouts. Basically you take a 4-way
intersection
of residential streets, build a little round island in the middle,

Yeah, we have lots of those.

and plant flowers.

Nothing in the middle with ours, only with the big ones.

The first moving van in the area runs over the thing since it's
impossible
to navigate around it with anything bigger than a mini-van.

Ours are low enough so that trucks and vans can
just drive of them, with a shallow curb so they
don't even have to slow down to do that.

I drive over a lot of them with my car.

I don't, but that's because I don't want to lose more demerit
points and have to walk instead of drive. Its easy enough to
stay on the road itself and I mostly don't go straight thru
most of our smallest roundabouts anyway.

Howe many ****ing pigs do you have?

Not sure if I damage the suspension more doing that than I would damage
the steering by swerving round the ****ing things.

No need to swerve and that doesn't damage the steering anyway.

At the speed I travel, it's called swerving.

But the main thing is I damage the stupid thing on the road.

Doesn't damage ours, even when you drive over
it with a fully loaded semi what you lot call an HGV.

It does eventually. Many tonnes of steel creating quite a shock load over and over again.

Where lots of people have done it, they sink due to all the knocks they
get.

Ours don't. Unfortunately all our smallest roundabouts have
been done since our last street view so I can't show you easily.

Perhaps having dryer ground things don't sink so much.
You can see here they've already repatched the area around them, and it's cracking again after only 2 years:
https://goo.gl/maps/6xi5vut42yB2
I can't see the bolts on those, but some have visible bolts, and sometimes people come out at night and steal them :-) Funny to see a road with half of them uprooted.

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Sounds like it.

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On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 04:25:50 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:



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On 10/02/2018 04:55 PM, Rod Speed wrote:


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On 09/09/2018 01:08 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
I really ****ed off a horserider once. I was driving a very old
Range
Rover automatic which had a conversion to LPG. It very often
misfired,
made loud bangs, and changed gear without warning. I managed to
cause a
small explosion and a loud revving of the engine just as I passed a
horserider coming the other way along a narrow country road. The
horse
**** itself, and so did the rider.

I did better than that... I was coming down a narrow road that went
past
a dude ranch on my Harley. Coming the other was was a herd of dudes
on
their docile refugees from a canning factory led by a genuine wild
west
cowboy. ****head's horse had a nervous breakdown while the guests'
nags
barely roused from their stupor.

it doesn't take much to set them off. I've worked with horses
enough to
know most of them are a neurotic bundle of nerves. If the horse can't
handle public roads, trailer it to a nice quiet horse trail
someplace.

Indeed. Horses on roads were fine, before the invention of the
motor car.

They weren't actually, lots got killed by them bolting etc.

They're not the brightest of animals.

They're actually quite a bit smarter than most, just a
neurotic bundle of nerves. They basically evolved that
way because they are prey to stuff like lions and tigers etc.

At one time I worked on a Forest Service ranch that was the winter home
for about 250 head of saddle and pack stock, both mules and horses. I
preferred the mules. The only problem is a mule is smart enough to look
out for number one while you can coax a horse into doing stupid things.
otoh, most mules aren't afraid of a length of rope laying in the trail,
running water, tree branches blowing in the wind, llamas, bicycles, elk,
deer, shadows, or whatever else will trigger a horse.

I've just been to this one again and was again reminded that quite a few
of them were kept where they were wanted to be when not actually doing
anything by just a line of white plastic cord keeping them from wandering
around.

That's surprising, I always see temporary electric fence.

On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 04:34:06 +0100, rbowman wrote:

On 10/02/2018 04:50 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 20:11:04 +0100, Rod Speed
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"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
news On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 03:13:46 +0100, rbowman wrote:

On 09/29/2018 03:48 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:

Finally, if you live in an RV you get to keep it. And modify it.
Lot
rent is quite a bit less than rental properties.

I take it RV means campervan? Those depreciate way faster than
houses.

If you don't plan on selling it who cares? Besides, as you argued for
automobiles, buy them used after they depreciate.

Still a lot of repairs to do, like rust, and the engine of course.

Aluminum doesn't rust. RV's also include trailers so there is no
engine

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recreational_vehicle

My brother had a motorhome but he towed a Toyota yacht tender behind
it.
That's a very common practice so you have a vehicle smaller than a bus
to drive around. With the trailer, you can drop the trailer and you
have
the tow vehicle for driving around.

There are quite a few full-time RVers in the US. Some are retirees,
others are younger and find employment as they go.

https://www.outsideonline.com/185778...re-you-park-it

When I hit the road it was in a pickup similar to the 3rd photo, rather
than a van or some of the pickups with larger camper shells. It was
inconspicuous and could go anyplace. I wandered around the western US
for a year, going to Arizona for the winter months, and then spent a
year as a Forest Service volunteer. It's an interesting life; you learn
to travel light and improvise.

I don't understand why they're still using steel on any vehicle,

Because its much cheaper than the alternatives
and isnt hard to treat so it doesn't rust.

Yet all cars rust. After the warranty period though.

Only if you live in a swamp.

Or an island like the UK.