Cyclists waste petrol

On 10/03/2018 12:21 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
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That's more polite than '**** you and your GDPR, Eurotrash!'

On 10/03/2018 04:32 PM, Rod Speed wrote:


"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
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On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 04:25:50 +0100, Rod Speed
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"rbowman" wrote in message
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On 10/02/2018 04:55 PM, Rod Speed wrote:


"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
news On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 20:27:05 +0100, Rod Speed
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"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
news On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 05:45:16 +0100, rbowman
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On 09/09/2018 01:08 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
I really ****ed off a horserider once. I was driving a very old
Range
Rover automatic which had a conversion to LPG. It very often
misfired,
made loud bangs, and changed gear without warning. I managed to
cause a
small explosion and a loud revving of the engine just as I
passed a
horserider coming the other way along a narrow country road. The
horse
**** itself, and so did the rider.

I did better than that... I was coming down a narrow road that
went
past
a dude ranch on my Harley. Coming the other was was a herd of
dudes
on
their docile refugees from a canning factory led by a genuine wild
west
cowboy. ****head's horse had a nervous breakdown while the guests'
nags
barely roused from their stupor.

it doesn't take much to set them off. I've worked with horses
enough to
know most of them are a neurotic bundle of nerves. If the horse
can't
handle public roads, trailer it to a nice quiet horse trail
someplace.

Indeed. Horses on roads were fine, before the invention of the
motor car.

They weren't actually, lots got killed by them bolting etc.

They're not the brightest of animals.

They're actually quite a bit smarter than most, just a
neurotic bundle of nerves. They basically evolved that
way because they are prey to stuff like lions and tigers etc.

At one time I worked on a Forest Service ranch that was the winter home
for about 250 head of saddle and pack stock, both mules and horses. I
preferred the mules. The only problem is a mule is smart enough to look
out for number one while you can coax a horse into doing stupid things.
otoh, most mules aren't afraid of a length of rope laying in the trail,
running water, tree branches blowing in the wind, llamas, bicycles,
elk,
deer, shadows, or whatever else will trigger a horse.

I've just been to this one again and was again reminded that quite a few
of them were kept where they were wanted to be when not actually doing
anything by just a line of white plastic cord keeping them from
wandering
around.

That's surprising, I always see temporary electric fence.

Not sure that would work very well with Clydesdales, they have very
hairy legs.

Doesn't work a damn with elk... They just plow through and drag about 50
yards of fence wire with them. Not much will stop an elk that smells a
field of nice fresh alfalfa.

On 10/03/2018 02:55 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 04:34:06 +0100, rbowman wrote:

On 10/02/2018 04:50 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 20:11:04 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
news On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 03:13:46 +0100, rbowman
wrote:

On 09/29/2018 03:48 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:

Finally, if you live in an RV you get to keep it. And modify it.
Lot
rent is quite a bit less than rental properties.

I take it RV means campervan? Those depreciate way faster than
houses.

If you don't plan on selling it who cares? Besides, as you
argued for
automobiles, buy them used after they depreciate.

Still a lot of repairs to do, like rust, and the engine of course.

Aluminum doesn't rust. RV's also include trailers so there is no
engine

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recreational_vehicle

My brother had a motorhome but he towed a Toyota yacht tender behind
it.
That's a very common practice so you have a vehicle smaller than a
bus
to drive around. With the trailer, you can drop the trailer and you
have
the tow vehicle for driving around.

There are quite a few full-time RVers in the US. Some are retirees,
others are younger and find employment as they go.

https://www.outsideonline.com/185778...re-you-park-it

When I hit the road it was in a pickup similar to the 3rd photo,
rather
than a van or some of the pickups with larger camper shells. It was
inconspicuous and could go anyplace. I wandered around the western US
for a year, going to Arizona for the winter months, and then spent a
year as a Forest Service volunteer. It's an interesting life; you
learn
to travel light and improvise.

I don't understand why they're still using steel on any vehicle,

Because its much cheaper than the alternatives
and isnt hard to treat so it doesn't rust.

Yet all cars rust. After the warranty period though.

Only if you live in a swamp.

Or an island like the UK.

That's what I said...

On 10/03/2018 02:57 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 04:33:07 +0100, rbowman wrote:

On 10/02/2018 04:49 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 20:14:02 +0100, rbowman wrote:

On 09/30/2018 09:13 AM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 02:11:54 +0100, rbowman
wrote:

On 09/29/2018 03:41 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:

Cost to the customer should dictate ones further away will be less
likely to be bought, so I guess they were different carpets.

Presumably. They were all 12' rolls so I never saw the working side.
Furniture was the same deal. There still are furniture factories
in the
south eastern US while most of the furniture I loaded on the west
coast
was from Asia.

Other products weren't so easy to rationalize. I don't know about
the UK
but the Sunday papers (when people still read the Sunday papers)
have a
lot of colorful advertising brochures and other crap that most people
strip out and use to wrap garbage. I picked up a lot of those in
Boulder
CO to take to Baltimore MD, which is about 1600 miles. Nobody on the
east coast can print useless stuff?

The whole scheme depends on cheap transportation / cheap fuel. Keep
those container ships and trucks rolling!

If your government put as much fuel tax on it as ours did, that
wouldn't
be happening. A US gallon of gas here is $6.16 US. How does that
compare to what you pay?

It's been running around $2.97 all summer although I think it's up to
$2.99 now.

https://www.gasbuddy.com/USA

This state has a 27 cents / gallon gasoline tax so it's on the higher
end of the range. Distribution costs play a little part in the price
spread but it's the state and local taxes that make up the bulk of the
difference.

California is the flyer. The tax is 30 cents but because of state laws
they get special, super deluxe, designer blends. Washington has a 45
cent tax which explains their cost. Hawaii is obviously a distribution
problem.

Ours is an 80p per LITRE tax. If yours is still that expensive with so
little tax, you must VERY expensive gas before tax.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...und-the-world/

But after tax... Distribution costs also factor in. As you've pointed
out you could drop Great Britain in the northeast corner of this state
where there's nothing but a few Indians and prairie dogs.

The point is that BEFORE tax, our gas is WAY cheaper than yours. Don't
you have your own oil over there?

A little bit.

On 10/03/2018 04:38 PM, Rod Speed wrote:


"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
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On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 03:49:03 +0100, rbowman wrote:

On 10/02/2018 04:44 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 20:27:05 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
news On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 05:45:16 +0100, rbowman
wrote:

On 09/09/2018 01:08 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
I really ****ed off a horserider once. I was driving a very old
Range
Rover automatic which had a conversion to LPG. It very often
misfired,
made loud bangs, and changed gear without warning. I managed to
cause a
small explosion and a loud revving of the engine just as I passed a
horserider coming the other way along a narrow country road. The
horse
**** itself, and so did the rider.

I did better than that... I was coming down a narrow road that went
past
a dude ranch on my Harley. Coming the other was was a herd of
dudes on
their docile refugees from a canning factory led by a genuine
wild west
cowboy. ****head's horse had a nervous breakdown while the
guests' nags
barely roused from their stupor.

it doesn't take much to set them off. I've worked with horses
enough to
know most of them are a neurotic bundle of nerves. If the horse
can't
handle public roads, trailer it to a nice quiet horse trail
someplace.

Indeed. Horses on roads were fine, before the invention of the motor
car.

They weren't actually, lots got killed by them bolting etc.

They're not the brightest of animals.

A common description around here is a cowboy is the third dumbest
critter riding the second dumbest and chasing the first dumbest.

I would agree with that statement.

I wouldn't, sheep are a lot dumber than cattle.

There is that...

http://sweetgrassthemovie.com/

It was a decent movie although there were some strange juxtapositions.
One guy spent a lot of time on his cell phone whining to his mother
about how badly a sheep camp sucked.

The city had a brainstorm to have a sound, ecological approach to weed
control on one of the mountains bordering the city so they had a local
graze his sheep on it. Very scenic, old fashioned sheep wagon and all,
and you could see the woolies cavorting from downtown. Unfortunately,
the sheep everything except the leafy spurge, the invasive species the
were supposed to eat. They were corralled at night to protect them from
the town dogs looking for a snack and reduced that area to mineral soil.

After the photos were taken and the sheep went home, they hosed the area
down with Tordon. Mission accomplished.

It wasn't exactly 'The Sundowners'.

On 10/03/2018 04:45 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 23:38:38 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
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On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 03:49:03 +0100, rbowman wrote:

On 10/02/2018 04:44 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 20:27:05 +0100, Rod Speed

wrote:



"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
news On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 05:45:16 +0100, rbowman
wrote:

On 09/09/2018 01:08 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
I really ****ed off a horserider once. I was driving a very old
Range
Rover automatic which had a conversion to LPG. It very often
misfired,
made loud bangs, and changed gear without warning. I managed to
cause a
small explosion and a loud revving of the engine just as I
passed a
horserider coming the other way along a narrow country road. The
horse
**** itself, and so did the rider.

I did better than that... I was coming down a narrow road that went
past
a dude ranch on my Harley. Coming the other was was a herd of dudes
on
their docile refugees from a canning factory led by a genuine wild
west
cowboy. ****head's horse had a nervous breakdown while the guests'
nags
barely roused from their stupor.

it doesn't take much to set them off. I've worked with horses
enough
to
know most of them are a neurotic bundle of nerves. If the horse
can't
handle public roads, trailer it to a nice quiet horse trail
someplace.

Indeed. Horses on roads were fine, before the invention of the
motor
car.

They weren't actually, lots got killed by them bolting etc.

They're not the brightest of animals.

A common description around here is a cowboy is the third dumbest
critter riding the second dumbest and chasing the first dumbest.

I would agree with that statement.

I wouldn't, sheep are a lot dumber than cattle.

I'd say they were equally stupid.

No, you can turn cattle out in the forest in the spring and expect to
find most of them in the fall, minus the few that walk off cliffs etc.
Try that with sheep and the first thing they will do is find something
poisonous to eat. Then the survivors will find a fence line to pile up
against and smother half of them. The remnant will then try to drown
themselves in a creek. The hardy few survivors will get eaten by the
bears, wolves, mountain lions, and coyotes.

We do have wild bighorn sheep that can fend for themselves but centuries
of breeding have dumbed down the domestic version.

Besides, sheep are an excuse for blue heelers.

On 10/03/2018 04:47 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
My current (French - as in ****ty electrics) car failed the annual
safety test because it was reporting a failure of the antilock brakes.

Did the French buy Lucas?

On 10/03/2018 05:17 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
Cant see how that is even possible. The bulk of the notes
must be handed to some shop or other in exchange for
goods and the bulk of those must be deposited in a
bank and not just stuffed under the mattress.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where's_George%3F

I seldom bother with it but occasionally I'll get a bill with the stamp
on it and record it on the website.

rbowman wrote
Rod Speed wrote

Cant see how that is even possible. The bulk of the notes
must be handed to some shop or other in exchange for
goods and the bulk of those must be deposited in a bank
and not just stuffed under the mattress.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where's_George%3F

**** you lot can be weird.

I seldom bother with it but occasionally I'll get a bill
with the stamp on it and record it on the website.

On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 20:53:56 -0600, lowbrowman, the endlessly driveling
senile idiot, blabbered again:


There is that...

http://sweetgrassthemovie.com/

FLUSH yet so much of the inevitable senile drivel unread