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I want to get a bottle holder for my bike.
It has no pre-drilled holes for the holder. I found some that clamp on but not sure if they would work with the wide tube that I would need to mount it to. https://www.dropbox.com/s/llqwef4nym...71257.jpg?dl=0 Andy |
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On 5/20/2019 7:21 AM, AK wrote:
I want to get a bottle holder for my bike. It has no pre-drilled holes for the holder. I found some that clamp on but not sure if they would work with the wide tube that I would need to mount it to. https://www.dropbox.com/s/llqwef4nym...71257.jpg?dl=0 Andy One measurement is worth a thousand opinions. What size tube? A popular and effective solution is a pair of rivnuts: http://tentsshelters.tpub.com/TM-10-...24-14_67_2.jpg (in some religions, doing that will brand you as an infidel) -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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AMuzi wrote:
On 5/20/2019 7:21 AM, AK wrote: I want to get a bottle holder for my bike. It has no pre-drilled holes for the holder. I found some that clamp on but not sure if they would work with the wide tube that I would need to mount it to. https://www.dropbox.com/s/llqwef4nym...71257.jpg?dl=0 Andy One measurement is worth a thousand opinions. What size tube? A popular and effective solution is a pair of rivnuts: http://tentsshelters.tpub.com/TM-10-...24-14_67_2.jpg (in some religions, doing that will brand you as an infidel) The guy’s riding a Huffy. People have probably already branded him as an infidel. |
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On Monday, May 20, 2019 at 7:53:00 AM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/20/2019 7:21 AM, AK wrote: I want to get a bottle holder for my bike. It has no pre-drilled holes for the holder. I found some that clamp on but not sure if they would work with the wide tube that I would need to mount it to. https://www.dropbox.com/s/llqwef4nym...71257.jpg?dl=0 Andy One measurement is worth a thousand opinions. What size tube? A popular and effective solution is a pair of rivnuts: http://tentsshelters.tpub.com/TM-10-...24-14_67_2.jpg (in some religions, doing that will brand you as an infidel) -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 thanks. Ralph already considers me an infidel because I have a Huffy. I can't afford those fancy pants $4000 bikes. :-) Andy |
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On 5/20/2019 9:50 AM, AK wrote:
snip Ralph already considers me an infidel because I have a Huffy. I can't afford those fancy pants $4000 bikes. :-) But you can probably afford the tools necessary to properly install a pair of Rivnuts. You can purchase all the necessary tools for under $100, and you already may have some of them. Some of the tools you can jury-rig, but don't skimp on the drilling jig. $15 Rivnut insert setting tool: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N420A2D $ 7 Rivnuts: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NGK6UBY (for aluminum frame) $29 Drilling Jig: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222390828275 $13 Triangular Scraper: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DJ61QD4 $ 2 Liquid metal filler https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000ALDYJI $ 2 7mm drill bit https://www.ebay.com/itm/392072184033 $30 Close quarters drill https://www.harborfreight.com/38-in-variable-speed-reversible-close-quarters-drill-60610.html 1/8" drill bit (or 3mm). One thing to be careful about is getting all the metal filings out of the frame after you drill the holes. When Rivnuts are installed at the factory it's done before the frame tubes are welded, brazed, or glued together so the metal pieces can be easily removed. But once the frame is assembled you'll need to shake out those pieces through the seat tube or bottom bracket or headset openings. Or find a custom frame builder or bicycle shop that may already have all the proper equipment, and will do it for less than the cost of all the stuff you'll need to do the job properly yourself. But personally, I'd use clamps. For under $15 you can buy clamps specifically designed for this purpose. |
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On Saturday, May 25, 2019 at 10:39:16 AM UTC-4, sms wrote:
On 5/20/2019 9:50 AM, AK wrote: snip Ralph already considers me an infidel because I have a Huffy. I can't afford those fancy pants $4000 bikes. :-) But you can probably afford the tools necessary to properly install a pair of Rivnuts. You can purchase all the necessary tools for under $100, and you already may have some of them. Some of the tools you can jury-rig, but don't skimp on the drilling jig. $15 Rivnut insert setting tool: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N420A2D $ 7 Rivnuts: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NGK6UBY (for aluminum frame) $29 Drilling Jig: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222390828275 $13 Triangular Scraper: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DJ61QD4 $ 2 Liquid metal filler https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000ALDYJI $ 2 7mm drill bit https://www.ebay.com/itm/392072184033 $30 Close quarters drill https://www.harborfreight.com/38-in-variable-speed-reversible-close-quarters-drill-60610.html 1/8" drill bit (or 3mm). One thing to be careful about is getting all the metal filings out of the frame after you drill the holes. When Rivnuts are installed at the factory it's done before the frame tubes are welded, brazed, or glued together so the metal pieces can be easily removed. But once the frame is assembled you'll need to shake out those pieces through the seat tube or bottom bracket or headset openings. Or find a custom frame builder or bicycle shop that may already have all the proper equipment, and will do it for less than the cost of all the stuff you'll need to do the job properly yourself. But personally, I'd use clamps. For under $15 you can buy clamps specifically designed for this purpose. But two Rivnuts are a LOT less expensive than your Less than $15.00 clamps and are a lot better looking when installed. Cheers |
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On Saturday, May 25, 2019 at 10:39:16 AM UTC-4, sms wrote:
Snipped But you can probably afford the tools necessary to properly install a pair of Rivnuts. You can purchase all the necessary tools for under $100, and you already may have some of them. Some of the tools you can jury-rig, but don't skimp on the drilling jig. $15 Rivnut insert setting tool: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N420A2D $ 7 Rivnuts: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NGK6UBY (for aluminum frame) $29 Drilling Jig: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222390828275 $13 Triangular Scraper: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DJ61QD4 $ 2 Liquid metal filler https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000ALDYJI $ 2 7mm drill bit https://www.ebay.com/itm/392072184033 $30 Close quarters drill https://www.harborfreight.com/38-in-variable-speed-reversible-close-quarters-drill-60610.html 1/8" drill bit (or 3mm). Snipped $15.00 Rivnut insert setting tool = not needed. You can set a Rivnut with a long bolt and a nut. $7.00 Rivnuts. You can buy a couple of them from a good bicycle shop, custom frame builder or good fasteners store. $29.00 drilling jig = not needed. Any normal electric drill can be used. $13.00 triangular scraper = not needed. $2.00 liquid metal filler = not needed $30.00 close quarters drill = not needed. $96.00 in NOT NEEDED TOOLS to install two Rivnuts? You have got to be kidding! Typical of you to VASTLY INFLATE the difficulty and cost of a simple project. Then again, if people buy from one of your recommended sites you usually get a nice kick back from that site. That's also typical of you. I bet you turn more people off from bicycling than you get to take up bicycling. Cheers |
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On 5/25/2019 3:26 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Saturday, May 25, 2019 at 10:39:16 AM UTC-4, sms wrote: Snipped But you can probably afford the tools necessary to properly install a pair of Rivnuts. You can purchase all the necessary tools for under $100, and you already may have some of them. Some of the tools you can jury-rig, but don't skimp on the drilling jig. $15 Rivnut insert setting tool: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N420A2D $ 7 Rivnuts: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NGK6UBY (for aluminum frame) $29 Drilling Jig: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222390828275 $13 Triangular Scraper: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DJ61QD4 $ 2 Liquid metal filler https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000ALDYJI $ 2 7mm drill bit https://www.ebay.com/itm/392072184033 $30 Close quarters drill https://www.harborfreight.com/38-in-variable-speed-reversible-close-quarters-drill-60610.html 1/8" drill bit (or 3mm). Snipped $15.00 Rivnut insert setting tool = not needed. You can set a Rivnut with a long bolt and a nut. $7.00 Rivnuts. You can buy a couple of them from a good bicycle shop, custom frame builder or good fasteners store. $29.00 drilling jig = not needed. Any normal electric drill can be used. $13.00 triangular scraper = not needed. $2.00 liquid metal filler = not needed $30.00 close quarters drill = not needed. $96.00 in NOT NEEDED TOOLS to install two Rivnuts? You have got to be kidding! Typical of you to VASTLY INFLATE the difficulty and cost of a simple project. Then again, if people buy from one of your recommended sites you usually get a nice kick back from that site. That's also typical of you. Scharf used to use the same argument technique regarding dynamo lights: listing the highest end, most expensive equipment as the only possible way of using a dynamo headlight, and claiming that the result was still dangerous. I bet you turn more people off from bicycling than you get to take up bicycling. Agreed. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On 5/20/2019 8:52 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/20/2019 7:21 AM, AK wrote: I want to get a bottle holder for my bike. It has no pre-drilled holes for the holder. I found some that clamp on but not sure if they would work with the wide tube that I would need to mount it to. https://www.dropbox.com/s/llqwef4nym...71257.jpg?dl=0 Andy One measurement is worth a thousand opinions. What size tube? A popular and effective solution is a pair of rivnuts: http://tentsshelters.tpub.com/TM-10-...24-14_67_2.jpg (in some religions, doing that will brand you as an infidel) And there are always hose clamps. https://cloudfront.zoro.com/product/..._J6zyfo5oy.JPG -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On Mon, 20 May 2019 12:50:52 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote: And there are always hose clamps. https://cloudfront.zoro.com/product/..._J6zyfo5oy.JPG Mine have been holding fine without bringing themselves to my attention for at least thirty years -- I had to go out and look to make sure that that was what was holding my bottle cages on. Put a few turns of handlbar tape around the tube first, to prevent paint scratching and slippage. I'm puzzled by the comment that one could cut oneself on the metal strap. I've been scratched by various bike parts, but the hose clamps have never even thought about it. So I went back to the garage. I found that if I made a special effort, I could touch the corner of the end of one strap, and if I were to push hard, I could probable cut or at least bruise the end of my finger. I think I could see the end of the strap holding the other bottle cage on, but I couldn't touch it. -- Joy Beeson joy beeson at comcast dot net http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ |
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