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Old May 20th 19, 01:21 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
AK[_2_]
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I want to get a bottle holder for my bike.

It has no pre-drilled holes for the holder.

I found some that clamp on but not sure if they would work with the wide tube that I would need to mount it to.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/llqwef4nym...71257.jpg?dl=0

Andy
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Old May 20th 19, 01:52 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
AMuzi
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On 5/20/2019 7:21 AM, AK wrote:
I want to get a bottle holder for my bike.

It has no pre-drilled holes for the holder.

I found some that clamp on but not sure if they would work with the wide tube that I would need to mount it to.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/llqwef4nym...71257.jpg?dl=0

Andy


One measurement is worth a thousand opinions.
What size tube?

A popular and effective solution is a pair of rivnuts:
http://tentsshelters.tpub.com/TM-10-...24-14_67_2.jpg

(in some religions, doing that will brand you as an infidel)

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Old May 20th 19, 04:42 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Ralph Barone[_4_]
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AMuzi wrote:
On 5/20/2019 7:21 AM, AK wrote:
I want to get a bottle holder for my bike.

It has no pre-drilled holes for the holder.

I found some that clamp on but not sure if they would work with the wide
tube that I would need to mount it to.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/llqwef4nym...71257.jpg?dl=0

Andy


One measurement is worth a thousand opinions.
What size tube?

A popular and effective solution is a pair of rivnuts:
http://tentsshelters.tpub.com/TM-10-...24-14_67_2.jpg

(in some religions, doing that will brand you as an infidel)


The guy’s riding a Huffy. People have probably already branded him as an
infidel.

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Old May 20th 19, 05:50 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
AK[_2_]
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On Monday, May 20, 2019 at 7:53:00 AM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/20/2019 7:21 AM, AK wrote:
I want to get a bottle holder for my bike.

It has no pre-drilled holes for the holder.

I found some that clamp on but not sure if they would work with the wide tube that I would need to mount it to.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/llqwef4nym...71257.jpg?dl=0

Andy


One measurement is worth a thousand opinions.
What size tube?

A popular and effective solution is a pair of rivnuts:
http://tentsshelters.tpub.com/TM-10-...24-14_67_2.jpg

(in some religions, doing that will brand you as an infidel)

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


thanks.

Ralph already considers me an infidel because I have a Huffy.

I can't afford those fancy pants $4000 bikes.

:-)

Andy
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Old May 25th 19, 03:39 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
SMS
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On 5/20/2019 9:50 AM, AK wrote:

snip

Ralph already considers me an infidel because I have a Huffy.

I can't afford those fancy pants $4000 bikes.

:-)


But you can probably afford the tools necessary to properly install a
pair of Rivnuts. You can purchase all the necessary tools for under
$100, and you already may have some of them. Some of the tools you can
jury-rig, but don't skimp on the drilling jig.

$15 Rivnut insert setting tool: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N420A2D
$ 7 Rivnuts: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NGK6UBY (for aluminum frame)
$29 Drilling Jig: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222390828275
$13 Triangular Scraper: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DJ61QD4
$ 2 Liquid metal filler https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000ALDYJI
$ 2 7mm drill bit https://www.ebay.com/itm/392072184033
$30 Close quarters drill
https://www.harborfreight.com/38-in-variable-speed-reversible-close-quarters-drill-60610.html
1/8" drill bit (or 3mm).

One thing to be careful about is getting all the metal filings out of
the frame after you drill the holes. When Rivnuts are installed at the
factory it's done before the frame tubes are welded, brazed, or glued
together so the metal pieces can be easily removed. But once the frame
is assembled you'll need to shake out those pieces through the seat tube
or bottom bracket or headset openings.

Or find a custom frame builder or bicycle shop that may already have all
the proper equipment, and will do it for less than the cost of all the
stuff you'll need to do the job properly yourself.

But personally, I'd use clamps. For under $15 you can buy clamps
specifically designed for this purpose.
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Old May 25th 19, 08:12 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Sir Ridesalot
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On Saturday, May 25, 2019 at 10:39:16 AM UTC-4, sms wrote:
On 5/20/2019 9:50 AM, AK wrote:

snip

Ralph already considers me an infidel because I have a Huffy.

I can't afford those fancy pants $4000 bikes.

:-)


But you can probably afford the tools necessary to properly install a
pair of Rivnuts. You can purchase all the necessary tools for under
$100, and you already may have some of them. Some of the tools you can
jury-rig, but don't skimp on the drilling jig.

$15 Rivnut insert setting tool: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N420A2D
$ 7 Rivnuts: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NGK6UBY (for aluminum frame)
$29 Drilling Jig: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222390828275
$13 Triangular Scraper: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DJ61QD4
$ 2 Liquid metal filler https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000ALDYJI
$ 2 7mm drill bit https://www.ebay.com/itm/392072184033
$30 Close quarters drill
https://www.harborfreight.com/38-in-variable-speed-reversible-close-quarters-drill-60610.html
1/8" drill bit (or 3mm).

One thing to be careful about is getting all the metal filings out of
the frame after you drill the holes. When Rivnuts are installed at the
factory it's done before the frame tubes are welded, brazed, or glued
together so the metal pieces can be easily removed. But once the frame
is assembled you'll need to shake out those pieces through the seat tube
or bottom bracket or headset openings.

Or find a custom frame builder or bicycle shop that may already have all
the proper equipment, and will do it for less than the cost of all the
stuff you'll need to do the job properly yourself.

But personally, I'd use clamps. For under $15 you can buy clamps
specifically designed for this purpose.


But two Rivnuts are a LOT less expensive than your Less than $15.00 clamps and are a lot better looking when installed.

Cheers
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Old May 25th 19, 08:26 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Sir Ridesalot
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On Saturday, May 25, 2019 at 10:39:16 AM UTC-4, sms wrote:
Snipped
But you can probably afford the tools necessary to properly install a
pair of Rivnuts. You can purchase all the necessary tools for under
$100, and you already may have some of them. Some of the tools you can
jury-rig, but don't skimp on the drilling jig.

$15 Rivnut insert setting tool: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N420A2D
$ 7 Rivnuts: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NGK6UBY (for aluminum frame)
$29 Drilling Jig: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222390828275
$13 Triangular Scraper: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DJ61QD4
$ 2 Liquid metal filler https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000ALDYJI
$ 2 7mm drill bit https://www.ebay.com/itm/392072184033
$30 Close quarters drill
https://www.harborfreight.com/38-in-variable-speed-reversible-close-quarters-drill-60610.html
1/8" drill bit (or 3mm).

Snipped

$15.00 Rivnut insert setting tool = not needed. You can set a Rivnut with a long bolt and a nut.
$7.00 Rivnuts. You can buy a couple of them from a good bicycle shop, custom frame builder or good fasteners store.
$29.00 drilling jig = not needed. Any normal electric drill can be used.
$13.00 triangular scraper = not needed.
$2.00 liquid metal filler = not needed
$30.00 close quarters drill = not needed.

$96.00 in NOT NEEDED TOOLS to install two Rivnuts? You have got to be kidding! Typical of you to VASTLY INFLATE the difficulty and cost of a simple project. Then again, if people buy from one of your recommended sites you usually get a nice kick back from that site. That's also typical of you.

I bet you turn more people off from bicycling than you get to take up bicycling.

Cheers
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Old May 25th 19, 09:28 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Frank Krygowski[_4_]
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On 5/25/2019 3:26 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Saturday, May 25, 2019 at 10:39:16 AM UTC-4, sms wrote:
Snipped
But you can probably afford the tools necessary to properly install a
pair of Rivnuts. You can purchase all the necessary tools for under
$100, and you already may have some of them. Some of the tools you can
jury-rig, but don't skimp on the drilling jig.

$15 Rivnut insert setting tool: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N420A2D
$ 7 Rivnuts: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NGK6UBY (for aluminum frame)
$29 Drilling Jig: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222390828275
$13 Triangular Scraper: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DJ61QD4
$ 2 Liquid metal filler https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000ALDYJI
$ 2 7mm drill bit https://www.ebay.com/itm/392072184033
$30 Close quarters drill
https://www.harborfreight.com/38-in-variable-speed-reversible-close-quarters-drill-60610.html
1/8" drill bit (or 3mm).

Snipped

$15.00 Rivnut insert setting tool = not needed. You can set a Rivnut with a long bolt and a nut.
$7.00 Rivnuts. You can buy a couple of them from a good bicycle shop, custom frame builder or good fasteners store.
$29.00 drilling jig = not needed. Any normal electric drill can be used.
$13.00 triangular scraper = not needed.
$2.00 liquid metal filler = not needed
$30.00 close quarters drill = not needed.

$96.00 in NOT NEEDED TOOLS to install two Rivnuts? You have got to be kidding! Typical of you to VASTLY INFLATE the difficulty and cost of a simple project. Then again, if people buy from one of your recommended sites you usually get a nice kick back from that site. That's also typical of you.


Scharf used to use the same argument technique regarding dynamo lights:
listing the highest end, most expensive equipment as the only possible
way of using a dynamo headlight, and claiming that the result was still
dangerous.

I bet you turn more people off from bicycling than you get to take up bicycling.


Agreed.


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Old May 20th 19, 05:50 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Frank Krygowski[_4_]
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On 5/20/2019 8:52 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/20/2019 7:21 AM, AK wrote:
I want to get a bottle holder for my bike.

It has no pre-drilled holes for the holder.

I found some that clamp on but not sure if they would work with the
wide tube that I would need to mount it to.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/llqwef4nym...71257.jpg?dl=0

Andy


One measurement is worth a thousand opinions.
What size tube?

A popular and effective solution is a pair of rivnuts:
http://tentsshelters.tpub.com/TM-10-...24-14_67_2.jpg


(in some religions, doing that will brand you as an infidel)

And there are always hose clamps.
https://cloudfront.zoro.com/product/..._J6zyfo5oy.JPG

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Old May 22nd 19, 02:21 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Joy Beeson
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On Mon, 20 May 2019 12:50:52 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

And there are always hose clamps.
https://cloudfront.zoro.com/product/..._J6zyfo5oy.JPG


Mine have been holding fine without bringing themselves to my
attention for at least thirty years -- I had to go out and look to
make sure that that was what was holding my bottle cages on.

Put a few turns of handlbar tape around the tube first, to prevent
paint scratching and slippage.

I'm puzzled by the comment that one could cut oneself on the metal
strap. I've been scratched by various bike parts, but the hose clamps
have never even thought about it.

So I went back to the garage. I found that if I made a special
effort, I could touch the corner of the end of one strap, and if I
were to push hard, I could probable cut or at least bruise the end of
my finger.

I think I could see the end of the strap holding the other bottle cage
on, but I couldn't touch it.

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