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I've had a Kris Holm seat for about 6months. Recently it's started to
develop a lot of flex and makes various creaking noises when pulled on. I'm not a particularly abusive rider, I do mostly freestyle and a bit of light trials. I was wondering how common this is, so I thought I'd start this thread to do a little informal survery. Has your KH seat become suddenly more flexible since you bought it, and if so, how long did it take to happen? Any other problems with the seat? Please reply even if you haven't had any problems (including how long you've not had any problems for ). Note, I'm not criticising this product, I have found it excellent in terms of comfort and very practical for hopping etc. I just thought that now it's been out for a while it would be good to get an idea of it's durability. If we find, for example, that a lot of people need to replace their seat once or twice a year, that would be useful information. -- Nick Grey |
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Nick Grey wrote: *Has your KH seat become suddenly more flexible since you bought it, and if so, how long did it take to happen? Any other problems with the seat? * Don't get me started. [image: http://www.addis-welt.de/smilie/smil...rtiert007.gif] When I got my Unicycle seat (around June) the material started pulling out from the staples on one side, producing an unsightly bulge in the padding. It started out like this and got worse with wear. It did not discomfort me but seemed not to be very well constructed. The 'flex' (http://tinyurl.com/ohqu) was there from the start. The first models of KH seats, which mine obviously was, came with no reinforcement between the seatpost bracket and the front handle, just steel against plastic. This created a lever-like action - the handle bent the plastic around the edge of the bracket, eventually weakening and snapping it. Mine snapped in less than six months, I was not particularly hard on it, but it was in someone elses hands at the time it broke, so I can't comment on his inexperienced technique, and maybe excessive force used. I am criticising this product, the first KH seats suck as far as durability goes, but I think they have potential with a bit of modification in future models, as they are very comfortable and practical like Nick mentioned. The creaking noises you are experiencing could be coming from the nuts loosening themselves, as many people have complained about them. Be careful not to overtighten because apparently they can spin in the holes, making them difficult to deal with. Creaking and squeeking noises are definitely annoying sounds to listen to, and loose nuts are equally as annoying. I have an airseat, but since I had a bit of trouble with corrosion on my fasteners, I chucked my broken KH saddle back on, to test how it rides on top of the angled rails adapter. The broken KH seat totally sucks for hopping, but is ridable. I tried sidehopping up a tiny curb, maybe 12cm. The seat bent upwards, crushed my nuts, and I fell off. Not good at all. I'm going to replace my airseat fasteners, but I am not going to hurry to replace my Kris Holm seat in case I get an old one again. I'll wait till they all get sold, then when the ones with the reinforcing plate come out I will consider getting one again, since I quite like how they feel compared to other seats. I feel I am owed some kind of discount for a seat replacement, since I was a guinea pig given an inferior seat for testing. I don't really care if I get nothing, I just like sitting here complaining and moaning. I am glad that other people will reap the benefits from the improvements to KH seats. It's a pity about everyone who got a flexy first-production model, tough luck. -- Rowan - •·.·´¯`·.·• ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Rowan's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/3772 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/27914 |
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I should probably keep my mouth shut, but I feel quite smug... I got a KH seat when they first came out last October, and mine has been and still is fine. Very little flex, no ripping or bending where it shouldn't, after a year of abuse. /me is happy... Phil -- phil - ex-studenty type "Cattle Prods solve most of life's little problems." ------------------------------------------------------------------------ phil's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/915 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/27914 |
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On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:37:35 -0500, phil
wrote: I should probably keep my mouth shut, but I feel quite smug... I got a KH seat when they first came out last October, and mine has been and still is fine. Very little flex, no ripping or bending where it shouldn't, after a year of abuse. Mine is as old as yours and is fine as well. I was already thinking I don't use it enough, or hard enough. But, wait, of course we have the European quality version! Klaas Bil - Newsgroup Addict -- If the crank is moving then it really sounds as if it's loose. - onewheeldave trying to pinpoint the cause of a clicking crank |
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I have one of the early models on my 24x3 and my only complaint is that it feels really flexy. It's still lasted me about 5 months so I'm happy. The one that came on my Onza is much less flexy (although I've had it less than a week) and I'm really liking it. BTW, Rowan, I know how you feel, that happened with my miyata handle, and it really sucks. Keep Riding -- gerblefranklin I don't break equipment, I make it cheaper. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ gerblefranklin's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/4295 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/27914 |
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gerblefranklin wrote: *Rowan, I know how you feel, that happened with my miyata handle, and it really sucks. * I'm not sure if you understand me fully, but you probably do. My seat snapped in the middle, and the handle is fine. It must suck to snap the handle off, but a handle seems easier to replace than the middle of the seat. Any parts breaking sucks. I find that if a part can break, it usually does. The only things I haven't broken are seatposts, and profiles. I've cracked a lollypop frame, stuffed my bearings underwater, bent cranks, snapped an axle twice, stuffed up some pedals, tacoed a rim beyond repair, broken the seat. The list goes on, I can't even think of all the little things that have gone wrong. I'm glad I don't own a car, because they have so many more moving parts to go haywire. I don't consider myself to be particularly hard on equipment either, I think a lot of parts are made cheaply and are not intended for real-life use. -- Rowan - •·.·´¯`·.·• ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Rowan's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/3772 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/27914 |
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-Originally Posted By phil- *I should probably keep my mouth shut, but I feel quite smug... I got a KH seat when they first came out last October, and mine has been and still is fine. Very little flex, no ripping or bending where it shouldn't, after a year of abuse.* same here -- zach_jucha - rediscovering the joy of immolation -The whole scrotum thing had better be covered well indeed- - Klaas Bil ------------------------------------------------------------------------ zach_jucha's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/4072 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/27914 |
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Mine is a bit loose but only because I'm too scared of over tightening it and spinning the bolts. New unicycle syndrome...you know how it is. How easily do they spin though? I love the seat. Nick, I know a unicyclist called Nick Green. Andrew -- andrew_carter - www.unicycles.com.au! HTTP://WWW.UNICYCLIST.COM/GALLERY/ANDREW andrew_carter (at) mail (dot) com http://www.unicycles.com.au - Opening soon! I love unicycling! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ andrew_carter's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/1052 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/27914 |
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Rowan wrote: * I am glad that other people will reap the benefits from the improvements to KH seats. * Thank you Rowan, I appreciate the testing. My KH Seat seems really good! --chirokid-- -- chirokid "Unicycling can make you proud then humble in very quick succession." Mikefule ------------------------------------------------------------------------ chirokid's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/4140 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/27914 |
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Tmornstar wrote: *Does anybody know if there is a KH freestyle saddle in the offing?* Well Kris isn't really deep into freestyle is he. But the saddle is available without the handle; not sure if that makes it a freestyle saddle IYHO. Klaas Bil -- Klaas Bil - Newsgroup Addict ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Klaas Bil's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/3442 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/27914 |
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