Curious -- Why Do You Continue To Stay With ARBR

Tom Sherman wrote:
M wrote:

I'm staying with this group as an experiment. I want to see how many
people I have to put in the kill file before it becomes a group about
recumbent bikes again. Anyone who responds to Dolan is in my kill
file. Now I can read this group in five minutes and most of what I
read is about recumbent bikes. To all of you "on topic" people, thank
you for all the good info. To all of you "off topic" people, see ya!


Kill files are for people who lack the intelligence to sort what is
worthwhile to them, and the self-control to ignore what they consider
useless.

Kill files are for people who *have* the intelligence to sort what is
worthwhile, and have automated the process. Just as some program their
televisions to skip over the channels that do not contain programming, they
will program their newsreaders to skip over those posters who offer little of
interest to them.

--
Larry Varney
Cold Spring, KY
http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney

Larry Varney wrote:

Tom Sherman wrote:

M wrote:

I'm staying with this group as an experiment. I want to see how many
people I have to put in the kill file before it becomes a group about
recumbent bikes again. Anyone who responds to Dolan is in my kill
file. Now I can read this group in five minutes and most of what I
read is about recumbent bikes. To all of you "on topic" people,
thank you for all the good info. To all of you "off topic" people,
see ya!



Kill files are for people who lack the intelligence to sort what is
worthwhile to them, and the self-control to ignore what they consider
useless.

Kill files are for people who *have* the intelligence to sort what is
worthwhile, and have automated the process. Just as some program their
televisions to skip over the channels that do not contain programming,
they will program their newsreaders to skip over those posters who offer
little of interest to them.

Even Mr. Ed Dolan has something worthwhile to say on recumbent bicycles
0.1% of the time.

--
Tom Sherman

Guess Who I Am wrote:

why don't we admit to it that "ED asshole DOLAN and a couple other assholes has
made this board not as attractive as it used to be for some people.
and IMO if we ALL want this board to better we should all, including myself,
should stick to recumbent and bicycle topics only. lets forget about all of the
OT'S and other nonrelated ****.
OK
that means you Mr. Dolan and you also Mr. Sherman.
lets stop it NOW, OK!

Hi Earl,

I really should follow your suggestion, despite certain Monkeys urging
me to keep on aggravating Ed Dolan.

--
Tom Sherman

Larry Varney wrote:
M. Chandler wrote:

Tom Sherman wrote:

Joe Keenan wrote:

I'm curious why folks stay with this newsgroup given that any thread
is immediately subject to contamination. (I'm being kind) Yup, I'm a
"usta be" and just stopped in to see if things had changed in a few
months.



Because moderation of a forum is the greater evil. The road to Hell
is paved with good intentions.



I thought the road to Hell was paved with PowerPoint presentations...

I agree with Tom, just say 'no' to moderation.


And I disagree. The best thing is to have both opportunities. For the
people who want to be free to say anything they want, no matter how
crude, vulgar, stupid, or whatever - unmoderated is the way to go.
But for those who do not want to be around such things, who want to
engage in civil conversations, to be able to object and disagree without
having someone becoming objectionable and disagreeable, a moderated
forum is a good thing.
Too many people get disgusted and turned off by unnecessarily crude,
vicious and sick language and behavior. They will leave any discussion
area that tolerates that sort of thing. Some don't; they thrive on it.
Think along these lines: you go to a party. If one or more of the
guests starts behaving badly, to the point of drowning out all other
conversations with their childish obscenities, what would you do? Enjoy
it? Rejoice in the freedom of bad taste? Or would you just wish that
they could learn to behave like adults?
For those who cannot behave, there are the unmoderated lists. And, for
the same reason, there are the moderated ones as well. If what's
important to you is the freedom to behave badly, then yes, feel free to
say "no" to moderation. And those of us who are adults in more than just
age, will thank you.

Larry,

You certainly make some valid points. But, if you look at what happened
to rec.bicycles.off-road after being moderated, you'd see that
moderation doesn't always improve a newsgroup.


--
Mark Chandler
Superior, CO
http://www.MileHighSkates.com

M. Chandler wrote:

Larry Varney wrote:

M. Chandler wrote:

Tom Sherman wrote:

Joe Keenan wrote:

I'm curious why folks stay with this newsgroup given that any thread
is immediately subject to contamination. (I'm being kind) Yup, I'm a
"usta be" and just stopped in to see if things had changed in a few
months.




Because moderation of a forum is the greater evil. The road to Hell
is paved with good intentions.




I thought the road to Hell was paved with PowerPoint presentations...

I agree with Tom, just say 'no' to moderation.


And I disagree. The best thing is to have both opportunities. For
the people who want to be free to say anything they want, no matter
how crude, vulgar, stupid, or whatever - unmoderated is the way to go.
But for those who do not want to be around such things, who want to
engage in civil conversations, to be able to object and disagree
without having someone becoming objectionable and disagreeable, a
moderated forum is a good thing.
Too many people get disgusted and turned off by unnecessarily crude,
vicious and sick language and behavior. They will leave any discussion
area that tolerates that sort of thing. Some don't; they thrive on it.
Think along these lines: you go to a party. If one or more of the
guests starts behaving badly, to the point of drowning out all other
conversations with their childish obscenities, what would you do?
Enjoy it? Rejoice in the freedom of bad taste? Or would you just wish
that they could learn to behave like adults?
For those who cannot behave, there are the unmoderated lists. And,
for the same reason, there are the moderated ones as well. If what's
important to you is the freedom to behave badly, then yes, feel free
to say "no" to moderation. And those of us who are adults in more than
just age, will thank you.


Larry,

You certainly make some valid points. But, if you look at what happened
to rec.bicycles.off-road after being moderated, you'd see that
moderation doesn't always improve a newsgroup.

Was not rec.bicycles.off-road moderated solely to get rid of Mikey V?

--
Tom Sherman

I've gotten kind of bored watching the two closet homosexuals control
this board. If they would just come out maybe we could have some
peace here!

Enjoy,

Perry B - Minnesota



(Joe Keenan) wrote in message m...
I'm curious why folks stay with this newsgroup given that any thread
is immediately subject to contamination. (I'm being kind) Yup, I'm a
"usta be" and just stopped in to see if things had changed in a few
months.

Slow Joe Recumbo

"Tom Sherman" wrote in message
...
Larry Varney wrote:

Tom Sherman wrote:

M wrote:

I'm staying with this group as an experiment. I want to see how many
people I have to put in the kill file before it becomes a group about
recumbent bikes again. Anyone who responds to Dolan is in my kill
file. Now I can read this group in five minutes and most of what I
read is about recumbent bikes. To all of you "on topic" people, thank
you for all the good info. To all of you "off topic" people, see ya!



Kill files are for people who lack the intelligence to sort what is
worthwhile to them, and the self-control to ignore what they consider
useless.

Kill files are for people who *have* the intelligence to sort what is
worthwhile, and have automated the process. Just as some program their
televisions to skip over the channels that do not contain programming,
they will program their newsreaders to skip over those posters who offer
little of interest to them.

Even Mr. Ed Dolan has something worthwhile to say on recumbent bicycles
0.1% of the time.


If someone puts a gun to my head and says "read this" I will read whatever
it is, but until that happens I will continue to read only what I choose to
read. I have difficulty whatsoever making my own reading choices.

"Just zis Guy, you know?" wrote in message
...
On 11 Nov 2004 05:24:40 -0800, (Joe Keenan)
wrote:

I'm curious why folks stay with this newsgroup given that any thread
is immediately subject to contamination. (I'm being kind) Yup, I'm a
"usta be" and just stopped in to see if things had changed in a few
months.

Because I vastly prefer Usenet to web forums, and putting Ed on
auto-ignore makes ARBR bearable.

There is no way in this world Guy Chapman of England is ever going to ignore
me. He responds to my every post even though we have long stopped saying
anything to one another. That is the charisma of Ed Dolan.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

"Mudflap" wrote in message
k.net...
Joe Keenan wrote:
I'm curious why folks stay with this newsgroup given that any thread
is immediately subject to contamination. (I'm being kind) Yup, I'm a
"usta be" and just stopped in to see if things had changed in a few
months.

Slow Joe Recumbo

MR ED has a very large part of this group under his complete control and
most are unaware of that fact. I filtered him by my 3rd day here but
others are obsessed by him so we have to get his crap 2nd hand.

Many thanks for the very good post. Any more like this and ARBR will have
completely gone to the dogs.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

"M" wrote in message
...
I'm staying with this group as an experiment. I want to see how many
people I have to put in the kill file before it becomes a group about
recumbent bikes again. Anyone who responds to Dolan is in my kill file.
Now I can read this group in five minutes and most of what I read is about
recumbent bikes. To all of you "on topic" people, thank you for all the
good info. To all of you "off topic" people, see ya!

Mike in Kalamazoo

"Joe Keenan" wrote in message
...
I'm curious why folks stay with this newsgroup given that any thread
is immediately subject to contamination. (I'm being kind) Yup, I'm a
"usta be" and just stopped in to see if things had changed in a few
months.

Slow Joe Recumbo

I can't believe that anyone on this group ever kill files Mr. Tom Sherman,
the everlasting liberal-socialist-communist. However, if some of you are
kill filing him, then I consider that I have accomplished some good in this
world.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota