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On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 6:03:14 PM UTC-8, sms wrote:
On 12/30/2020 3:23 PM, Wolfgang Strobl wrote: snip Actually, I'm doing exactly what you initially suggested for non-racers: I value the range of my gears, not the number of speeds. 11-28 instead of 12-25 extends the range. It may change the number of speeds too, or it may not. In my view, it does not, but I don't really care. In my area folding bicycles are very common. Just in my own little neighborhood I see bike fridays, Dahons, and Bromptons. My next door neighbor has a higher-end Dahon, and they are not even really into bicycling. The big reason for folding bicycles is to not get bumped from the Caltrain commuter train which limits the number of bicycles per train. It used to be necessary to use a folder on BART which prohibited regular bicycles during peak commute hours but they've since dropped that restriction. Even though the Caltrain bicycle capacity has gone way up over the years, it's still not enough during normal, non-pandemic, times during commute hours, on the express trains. Depending on the equipment, each train can carry 72 or 80 bicycles. But because of the lack of viable transit from train stations to housing-rich or jobs-rich areas, a LOT of passengers want to bring their bicycles. Folding bicycles are much less trouble because you don't constantly have to be jumping up to be moving bicycles around so people can get their bikes off at the right station and you don't have to worry about theft. Also, regular bicycles tend to get banged up a lot on the train. While the low gears on my Dahon Speed TR (SRAM Dual Drive 3x7) are sufficient for most hills, the high gears leave something to be desired in some cases. On my old touring bicycle I have a 52/14 which is 97.57 gear inches and on occasion I've wanted something higher, maybe around 105 to 110, but back then the rear cluster on a touring bicycle was typically 14-34, and the largest front chainring was 52. I spent 20 years working in the Cupertino, Mt, View and Santa Clara area and being an avid cyclist was always aware of cyclists and extremely rarely saw a folding bike even on the rapid transit or trains. |
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On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 9:46:36 AM UTC-8, wrote:
On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 6:03:14 PM UTC-8, sms wrote: On 12/30/2020 3:23 PM, Wolfgang Strobl wrote: snip Actually, I'm doing exactly what you initially suggested for non-racers: I value the range of my gears, not the number of speeds. 11-28 instead of 12-25 extends the range. It may change the number of speeds too, or it may not. In my view, it does not, but I don't really care. In my area folding bicycles are very common. Just in my own little neighborhood I see bike fridays, Dahons, and Bromptons. My next door neighbor has a higher-end Dahon, and they are not even really into bicycling. The big reason for folding bicycles is to not get bumped from the Caltrain commuter train which limits the number of bicycles per train. It used to be necessary to use a folder on BART which prohibited regular bicycles during peak commute hours but they've since dropped that restriction. Even though the Caltrain bicycle capacity has gone way up over the years, it's still not enough during normal, non-pandemic, times during commute hours, on the express trains. Depending on the equipment, each train can carry 72 or 80 bicycles. But because of the lack of viable transit from train stations to housing-rich or jobs-rich areas, a LOT of passengers want to bring their bicycles. Folding bicycles are much less trouble because you don't constantly have to be jumping up to be moving bicycles around so people can get their bikes off at the right station and you don't have to worry about theft. Also, regular bicycles tend to get banged up a lot on the train. While the low gears on my Dahon Speed TR (SRAM Dual Drive 3x7) are sufficient for most hills, the high gears leave something to be desired in some cases. On my old touring bicycle I have a 52/14 which is 97.57 gear inches and on occasion I've wanted something higher, maybe around 105 to 110, but back then the rear cluster on a touring bicycle was typically 14-34, and the largest front chainring was 52. I spent 20 years working in the Cupertino, Mt, View and Santa Clara area and being an avid cyclist was always aware of cyclists and extremely rarely saw a folding bike even on the rapid transit or trains. Folding bikes are clearly a thing now on SF/Bay Area transit. https://www.bicycling.com/news/a2002...ke-everywhere/ http://sfappeal.com/2011/05/muni-all...-buses-trains/ Not my cup of tea, but we have a store devoted to them. https://tinyurl.com/yc4ycyhl My commute is not multi-modal, although my commute route is multimodal -- and a rat race pre-COVID: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HpC...=ki eljohnson I have a convenient rack at work, and expect to use it again when I return to my office one year. I may ride in today to pick up Christmas swag from clients. I have a swanky Specialized face mask. -- Jay Beattie. |
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On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 10:22:03 AM UTC-8, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 9:46:36 AM UTC-8, wrote: On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 6:03:14 PM UTC-8, sms wrote: On 12/30/2020 3:23 PM, Wolfgang Strobl wrote: snip Actually, I'm doing exactly what you initially suggested for non-racers: I value the range of my gears, not the number of speeds. 11-28 instead of 12-25 extends the range. It may change the number of speeds too, or it may not. In my view, it does not, but I don't really care. In my area folding bicycles are very common. Just in my own little neighborhood I see bike fridays, Dahons, and Bromptons. My next door neighbor has a higher-end Dahon, and they are not even really into bicycling. The big reason for folding bicycles is to not get bumped from the Caltrain commuter train which limits the number of bicycles per train.. It used to be necessary to use a folder on BART which prohibited regular bicycles during peak commute hours but they've since dropped that restriction. Even though the Caltrain bicycle capacity has gone way up over the years, it's still not enough during normal, non-pandemic, times during commute hours, on the express trains. Depending on the equipment, each train can carry 72 or 80 bicycles. But because of the lack of viable transit from train stations to housing-rich or jobs-rich areas, a LOT of passengers want to bring their bicycles. Folding bicycles are much less trouble because you don't constantly have to be jumping up to be moving bicycles around so people can get their bikes off at the right station and you don't have to worry about theft. Also, regular bicycles tend to get banged up a lot on the train. While the low gears on my Dahon Speed TR (SRAM Dual Drive 3x7) are sufficient for most hills, the high gears leave something to be desired in some cases. On my old touring bicycle I have a 52/14 which is 97.57 gear inches and on occasion I've wanted something higher, maybe around 105 to 110, but back then the rear cluster on a touring bicycle was typically 14-34, and the largest front chainring was 52. I spent 20 years working in the Cupertino, Mt, View and Santa Clara area and being an avid cyclist was always aware of cyclists and extremely rarely saw a folding bike even on the rapid transit or trains. Folding bikes are clearly a thing now on SF/Bay Area transit. https://www..bicycling.com/news/a200...ke-everywhere/ http://sfappeal.com/2011/05/muni-all...-buses-trains/ Not my cup of tea, but we have a store devoted to them. https://tinyurl.com/yc4ycyhl My commute is not multi-modal, although my commute route is multimodal -- and a rat race pre-COVID: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HpC...=ki eljohnson I have a convenient rack at work, and expect to use it again when I return to my office one year. I may ride in today to pick up Christmas swag from clients. I have a swanky Specialized face mask. Tell me Jay, how often do you travel on the bay area transit systems? |
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On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 12:04:51 PM UTC-8, wrote:
On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 10:22:03 AM UTC-8, jbeattie wrote: On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 9:46:36 AM UTC-8, wrote: On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 6:03:14 PM UTC-8, sms wrote: On 12/30/2020 3:23 PM, Wolfgang Strobl wrote: snip Actually, I'm doing exactly what you initially suggested for non-racers: I value the range of my gears, not the number of speeds. 11-28 instead of 12-25 extends the range. It may change the number of speeds too, or it may not. In my view, it does not, but I don't really care. In my area folding bicycles are very common. Just in my own little neighborhood I see bike fridays, Dahons, and Bromptons. My next door neighbor has a higher-end Dahon, and they are not even really into bicycling. The big reason for folding bicycles is to not get bumped from the Caltrain commuter train which limits the number of bicycles per train. It used to be necessary to use a folder on BART which prohibited regular bicycles during peak commute hours but they've since dropped that restriction. Even though the Caltrain bicycle capacity has gone way up over the years, it's still not enough during normal, non-pandemic, times during commute hours, on the express trains. Depending on the equipment, each train can carry 72 or 80 bicycles. But because of the lack of viable transit from train stations to housing-rich or jobs-rich areas, a LOT of passengers want to bring their bicycles. Folding bicycles are much less trouble because you don't constantly have to be jumping up to be moving bicycles around so people can get their bikes off at the right station and you don't have to worry about theft. Also, regular bicycles tend to get banged up a lot on the train. While the low gears on my Dahon Speed TR (SRAM Dual Drive 3x7) are sufficient for most hills, the high gears leave something to be desired in some cases. On my old touring bicycle I have a 52/14 which is 97.57 gear inches and on occasion I've wanted something higher, maybe around 105 to 110, but back then the rear cluster on a touring bicycle was typically 14-34, and the largest front chainring was 52. I spent 20 years working in the Cupertino, Mt, View and Santa Clara area and being an avid cyclist was always aware of cyclists and extremely rarely saw a folding bike even on the rapid transit or trains. Folding bikes are clearly a thing now on SF/Bay Area transit. https://www.bicycling.com/news/a2002...ke-everywhere/ http://sfappeal.com/2011/05/muni-all...-buses-trains/ Not my cup of tea, but we have a store devoted to them. https://tinyurl..com/yc4ycyhl My commute is not multi-modal, although my commute route is multimodal -- and a rat race pre-COVID: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HpC...=ki eljohnson I have a convenient rack at work, and expect to use it again when I return to my office one year. I may ride in today to pick up Christmas swag from clients. I have a swanky Specialized face mask. Tell me Jay, how often do you travel on the bay area transit systems? Not often, but I can read. https://www.planetizen.com/node/35469 https://ridethisbike.com/bart-folding_bikes_policy.htm I would also defer to SMS. -- Jay Beattie. |
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On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 12:48:03 PM UTC-8, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 12:04:51 PM UTC-8, wrote: On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 10:22:03 AM UTC-8, jbeattie wrote: On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 9:46:36 AM UTC-8, wrote: On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 6:03:14 PM UTC-8, sms wrote: On 12/30/2020 3:23 PM, Wolfgang Strobl wrote: snip Actually, I'm doing exactly what you initially suggested for non-racers: I value the range of my gears, not the number of speeds. 11-28 instead of 12-25 extends the range. It may change the number of speeds too, or it may not. In my view, it does not, but I don't really care. In my area folding bicycles are very common. Just in my own little neighborhood I see bike fridays, Dahons, and Bromptons. My next door neighbor has a higher-end Dahon, and they are not even really into bicycling. The big reason for folding bicycles is to not get bumped from the Caltrain commuter train which limits the number of bicycles per train. It used to be necessary to use a folder on BART which prohibited regular bicycles during peak commute hours but they've since dropped that restriction. Even though the Caltrain bicycle capacity has gone way up over the years, it's still not enough during normal, non-pandemic, times during commute hours, on the express trains. Depending on the equipment, each train can carry 72 or 80 bicycles. But because of the lack of viable transit from train stations to housing-rich or jobs-rich areas, a LOT of passengers want to bring their bicycles. Folding bicycles are much less trouble because you don't constantly have to be jumping up to be moving bicycles around so people can get their bikes off at the right station and you don't have to worry about theft. Also, regular bicycles tend to get banged up a lot on the train. While the low gears on my Dahon Speed TR (SRAM Dual Drive 3x7) are sufficient for most hills, the high gears leave something to be desired in some cases. On my old touring bicycle I have a 52/14 which is 97.57 gear inches and on occasion I've wanted something higher, maybe around 105 to 110, but back then the rear cluster on a touring bicycle was typically 14-34, and the largest front chainring was 52. I spent 20 years working in the Cupertino, Mt, View and Santa Clara area and being an avid cyclist was always aware of cyclists and extremely rarely saw a folding bike even on the rapid transit or trains. Folding bikes are clearly a thing now on SF/Bay Area transit. https://www.bicycling.com/news/a2002...ke-everywhere/ http://sfappeal.com/2011/05/muni-all...-buses-trains/ Not my cup of tea, but we have a store devoted to them. https://tinyurl.com/yc4ycyhl My commute is not multi-modal, although my commute route is multimodal -- and a rat race pre-COVID: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HpC...=ki eljohnson I have a convenient rack at work, and expect to use it again when I return to my office one year. I may ride in today to pick up Christmas swag from clients. I have a swanky Specialized face mask. Tell me Jay, how often do you travel on the bay area transit systems? Not often, but I can read. https://www.planetizen.com/node/35469 https://ridethisbike.com/bart-folding_bikes_policy.htm I would also defer to SMS. I hate to point this out to a moron, but "increasingly popular" isn't "common". I take public transit a LOT and I have perhaps seen ONE folding bike. |
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On 12/31/2020 10:21 AM, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 9:46:36 AM UTC-8, wrote: snip I spent 20 years working in the Cupertino, Mt, View and Santa Clara area and being an avid cyclist was always aware of cyclists and extremely rarely saw a folding bike even on the rapid transit or trains. Folding bikes are clearly a thing now on SF/Bay Area transit. https://www.bicycling.com/news/a2002...ke-everywhere/ http://sfappeal.com/2011/05/muni-all...-buses-trains/ snip Tom is wrong of courseâ„¢. Folding bicycle popularity really went up in the past ten or so years with both the expansion of tech firms in San Francisco and with San Francisco becoming a bedroom community for younger Silicon Valley tech workers. Caltrain used to crowded SJ-SF in the morning and SF-SJ in the evening, but now the reverse commute is nearly as popular. When you get to 4th and Townsend in San Francisco you can get on a bus or streetcar to go to the Financial District (and in a year or so the new underground line will open and that goes to Chinatown. But it's usually faster, and always cheaper, to bike from the station to the jobs-rich areas. If Caltrain is ever finally extended to the Transbay Terminal then there will be less of a need for "the last mile" transit. Similarly, when you get to the stations down the Peninsula a bicycle is very useful for the last mile (or two or three miles) since the public transit options are so limited. Big firms will have shuttles from the station, but smaller companies will not. Personally, I found a folding bicycle to be much less trouble on Caltrain. You never get bumped with a folder, but you often get bumped, especially from the "Baby Bullet" with a full size bicycle. You don't have to constantly be jumping up to rearrange bicycles when someone needs to get their bicycle out of the stack. Your bicycle doesn't get all scratched up. You don't need to constantly be watching it (bicycle theft from the bicycle cars has occurred). When you arrive at the station you get right off without waiting for the non-bicycle passengers to exit. You aren't restricted to only the bike cars with a folder, in fact you want to avoid the bike car and put your folder in the luggage storage area of a non-bike car. In San Francisco, another folder advantage is that you can almost always take the bicycle into your building and store it. You really don't want to lock your bicycle outside in San Francisco since part or all of it is likely to be gone by the end of the day. Ironically, the one place that hassled me about my folding bicycle was at the Metropolitan Transportation Commission building. I was my city's representative to MTC/ABAG and I always took Caltrain + bike. When I told the agency person I was not going to attend meetings because MTC was anti-bicycle, suddenly they took me and my bicycle, and that of another irate attendee, to a huge back room with a large number of dual-level bicycle storage racks, insisting that it was normally only for employees, and that they might get in trouble for letting us store our bicycles there. It is true that if you're cycling from a suburb of Silicon Valley, to a tech firm in Silicon Valley, you're not likely to need a folder. Most companies have secure bicycle storage, and even locking a bicycle outside is pretty safe. One day my wife locked her bicycle to standpipe of the building behind her and when she came out at the end of the day her bicycle was still there but the building was gone. |
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On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 1:58:16 PM UTC-8, wrote:
On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 12:48:03 PM UTC-8, jbeattie wrote: On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 12:04:51 PM UTC-8, wrote: On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 10:22:03 AM UTC-8, jbeattie wrote: On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 9:46:36 AM UTC-8, wrote: On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 6:03:14 PM UTC-8, sms wrote: On 12/30/2020 3:23 PM, Wolfgang Strobl wrote: snip Actually, I'm doing exactly what you initially suggested for non-racers: I value the range of my gears, not the number of speeds. 11-28 instead of 12-25 extends the range. It may change the number of speeds too, or it may not. In my view, it does not, but I don't really care. In my area folding bicycles are very common. Just in my own little neighborhood I see bike fridays, Dahons, and Bromptons. My next door neighbor has a higher-end Dahon, and they are not even really into bicycling. The big reason for folding bicycles is to not get bumped from the Caltrain commuter train which limits the number of bicycles per train. It used to be necessary to use a folder on BART which prohibited regular bicycles during peak commute hours but they've since dropped that restriction. Even though the Caltrain bicycle capacity has gone way up over the years, it's still not enough during normal, non-pandemic, times during commute hours, on the express trains. Depending on the equipment, each train can carry 72 or 80 bicycles. But because of the lack of viable transit from train stations to housing-rich or jobs-rich areas, a LOT of passengers want to bring their bicycles. Folding bicycles are much less trouble because you don't constantly have to be jumping up to be moving bicycles around so people can get their bikes off at the right station and you don't have to worry about theft. Also, regular bicycles tend to get banged up a lot on the train. While the low gears on my Dahon Speed TR (SRAM Dual Drive 3x7) are sufficient for most hills, the high gears leave something to be desired in some cases. On my old touring bicycle I have a 52/14 which is 97.57 gear inches and on occasion I've wanted something higher, maybe around 105 to 110, but back then the rear cluster on a touring bicycle was typically 14-34, and the largest front chainring was 52. I spent 20 years working in the Cupertino, Mt, View and Santa Clara area and being an avid cyclist was always aware of cyclists and extremely rarely saw a folding bike even on the rapid transit or trains. Folding bikes are clearly a thing now on SF/Bay Area transit. https://www.bicycling.com/news/a2002...ke-everywhere/ http://sfappeal.com/2011/05/muni-all...-buses-trains/ Not my cup of tea, but we have a store devoted to them. https://tinyurl.com/yc4ycyhl My commute is not multi-modal, although my commute route is multimodal -- and a rat race pre-COVID: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HpC...=ki eljohnson I have a convenient rack at work, and expect to use it again when I return to my office one year. I may ride in today to pick up Christmas swag from clients. I have a swanky Specialized face mask. Tell me Jay, how often do you travel on the bay area transit systems? Not often, but I can read. https://www.planetizen.com/node/35469 https://ridethisbike.com/bart-folding_bikes_policy.htm I would also defer to SMS. I hate to point this out to a moron, but "increasingly popular" isn't "common". I take public transit a LOT and I have perhaps seen ONE folding bike.. Well, moron, see below. And I didn't say they were common. They are a "thing," meaning that they are becoming popular as an option -- as is obvious from the press and SMS' first-hand experience as a someone with a job and a commute. The world is different at commute time, which you probably sleep through. -- Jay Beattie. |
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On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 2:25:05 PM UTC-8, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 1:58:16 PM UTC-8, wrote: On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 12:48:03 PM UTC-8, jbeattie wrote: On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 12:04:51 PM UTC-8, wrote: On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 10:22:03 AM UTC-8, jbeattie wrote: On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 9:46:36 AM UTC-8, wrote: On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 6:03:14 PM UTC-8, sms wrote: On 12/30/2020 3:23 PM, Wolfgang Strobl wrote: snip Actually, I'm doing exactly what you initially suggested for non-racers: I value the range of my gears, not the number of speeds. 11-28 instead of 12-25 extends the range. It may change the number of speeds too, or it may not. In my view, it does not, but I don't really care. In my area folding bicycles are very common. Just in my own little neighborhood I see bike fridays, Dahons, and Bromptons. My next door neighbor has a higher-end Dahon, and they are not even really into bicycling. The big reason for folding bicycles is to not get bumped from the Caltrain commuter train which limits the number of bicycles per train. It used to be necessary to use a folder on BART which prohibited regular bicycles during peak commute hours but they've since dropped that restriction. Even though the Caltrain bicycle capacity has gone way up over the years, it's still not enough during normal, non-pandemic, times during commute hours, on the express trains. Depending on the equipment, each train can carry 72 or 80 bicycles. But because of the lack of viable transit from train stations to housing-rich or jobs-rich areas, a LOT of passengers want to bring their bicycles. Folding bicycles are much less trouble because you don't constantly have to be jumping up to be moving bicycles around so people can get their bikes off at the right station and you don't have to worry about theft. Also, regular bicycles tend to get banged up a lot on the train. While the low gears on my Dahon Speed TR (SRAM Dual Drive 3x7) are sufficient for most hills, the high gears leave something to be desired in some cases. On my old touring bicycle I have a 52/14 which is 97.57 gear inches and on occasion I've wanted something higher, maybe around 105 to 110, but back then the rear cluster on a touring bicycle was typically 14-34, and the largest front chainring was 52. I spent 20 years working in the Cupertino, Mt, View and Santa Clara area and being an avid cyclist was always aware of cyclists and extremely rarely saw a folding bike even on the rapid transit or trains. Folding bikes are clearly a thing now on SF/Bay Area transit. https://www.bicycling.com/news/a2002...ke-everywhere/ http://sfappeal.com/2011/05/muni-all...-buses-trains/ Not my cup of tea, but we have a store devoted to them. https://tinyurl.com/yc4ycyhl My commute is not multi-modal, although my commute route is multimodal -- and a rat race pre-COVID: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HpC...=ki eljohnson I have a convenient rack at work, and expect to use it again when I return to my office one year. I may ride in today to pick up Christmas swag from clients. I have a swanky Specialized face mask. Tell me Jay, how often do you travel on the bay area transit systems? Not often, but I can read. https://www.planetizen.com/node/35469 https://ridethisbike.com/bart-folding_bikes_policy.htm I would also defer to SMS. I hate to point this out to a moron, but "increasingly popular" isn't "common". I take public transit a LOT and I have perhaps seen ONE folding bike. Well, moron, see below. And I didn't say they were common. They are a "thing," meaning that they are becoming popular as an option -- as is obvious from the press and SMS' first-hand experience as a someone with a job and a commute. The world is different at commute time, which you probably sleep through. Scharf doesn't use mass transit does he. He depends on that always truthful and well informed Lame Stream Media to get his case intelligence about the world about him. On the other hand I have ridden the mass transit quite a bit and driven in the Silicon Valley area a great deal which is inaccessible to most of the mass transit so that it there WERE folding bikes in any large numbers you would see them during commute hours. And I neither see them in Silicon Valley nor have I seen them on the mass transit which I take to San Francisco during commute hours to do Marin County rides. Also the Ferry goes from the Ferry Building in San Francisco to several stops in Marin and it also goes to Oakland and Alameda - North Oakland, Berkeley and Alameda are bedroom communities for the San Francisco skyscraper crowd. If there were ever any folding bikes on those ferries they were such a small number that they never made themselves visible. And on the Ferry you have to put all of the bikes either in the central lower deck bike area of on the back deck. So I would have seen them. The massive belief of you leftists that you are being told the truth by 18 and 19 year old "reporters" hoping to get a degree in journalism shows your utter lack of any skepticism. There no longer is any journalism. It is a dead profession populated by editorials rather than news. |
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On 12/31/2020 2:25 PM, jbeattie wrote:
snip Well, moron, see below. And I didn't say they were common. They are a "thing," meaning that they are becoming popular as an option -- as is obvious from the press and SMS' first-hand experience as a someone with a job and a commute. The world is different at commute time, which you probably sleep through. -- Jay Beattie. Tom's experience on public transit is obviously very limited, probably to BART and A/C Transit. Actually "common" is an accurate description when it comes to folding bicycles on public transit in the Bay Area, but it varies by location and by transit agency. On Muni Metro in San Francisco (light rail) only folding bikes are allowed. Muni buses can take two full size bikes on a rack, but a folder means that you won't have to worry about snagging one of those two slots. Folders used to be the only bicycles allowed on BART during peak commute hours in the commute direction, but now they no longer have any restrictions. Still, folders are less of a hassle even on BART, especially when the trains are crowded. Folders are still common on Caltrain even though bicycle capacity is 72 to 80 bicycles per train. Without a folder there is a good chance of being bumped, NB if you get on north of Sunnyvale or Mountain View, and southbound in San Francisco, especially on the express trains. On the local trains it's unlikely that you'll be bumped, it just takes a lot longer (the express trains are slow, but the local trains are agonizingly slow). Ironically, the cheapest way to cross the bay into San Francisco by transit is only if you have a bicycle with you: $1 on the Caltrans shuttle https://dot.ca.gov/caltrans-near-me/district-4/d4-popular-links/crossing-thebay-by-bike. |
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On 12/31/2020 12:48 PM, jbeattie wrote:
snip Not often, but I can read. https://www.planetizen.com/node/35469 https://ridethisbike.com/bart-folding_bikes_policy.htm I would also defer to SMS. Tom is wrong of courseâ„¢, but those links that you posted are outdated. See https://www.bart.gov/guide/bikes/bikeRules --------------------------------------------------------------------- During non-commute hours, bikes are allowed on all trains except the first car or any crowded car. During commute hours (7:00 to 9:00 AM and 4:30 to 6:30 PM, weekdays), bikes are not allowed in the first three cars of any train. Folded bikes are allowed in all cars at all times. Regardless of any other rule, bikes are never allowed on crowded cars. Use your good judgment and only board cars that can comfortably accommodate you and your bicycle. Bicyclists must hold their bikes while on the trains. Bicyclists must use elevators or stairs, not escalators. --------------------------------------------------------------------- I have taken a full size bike on BART multiple times. It's fine, but it's often not that pleasant. If the train is crowded it's a hassle. It's also a hassle to be holding your bicycle for the entire ride, usually standing. Sometimes you can get a seat where there it's possible to be holding your bicycle while seated, but often not. Not being able to use escalators is a hassle. Often elevators are out of order and there is some weirdness at some BART stations where the elevator goes between the paid and unpaid areas of a station. If you take the elevator from the street level into the station you've bypassed the fare gates. You have to back and swipe your ticket or scan your Clipper Card. When you leave the station you need to do the reverse. |
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