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SLAVE of THE STATE wrote:
On Sep 7, 3:06 pm, Fred Fredburger
wrote:
SLAVE of THE STATE wrote:





On Sep 4, 9:22 am, Fred Fredburger
wrote:
Robert Chung wrote:
Susan Walker wrote:
There are some wackos out there.
That's undeniably true but ours are particularly wackilicious.
You leftists think it's OK for our president to indoctrinate children
with socialist ideas like "work hard" and "stay in school"?
I can't say I wasn't warned.
Stooge who'll believe anything,
That wasn't what it was about.
http://news.aol.com/article/obama-sc...roversy/655701
"Critics are particularly upset about lesson plans the administration
created to accompany the speech. The lesson plans, available online,
originally recommended having students 'write letters to themselves
about what they can do to help the president.'"
They changed it after every one other than the true believers saw it
for what it was: a creepy cult-of-personality *lesson plan* from the
central government to teachers on a local level.
Your position isn't what's being argued.

You're saying that the speech was fine and perfectly suitable for
consumption by the masses. You have issues only with the lesson plans.

Learn to distinguish one thing from another. Not everything is the same
as everything else. Lesson plans are not speeches.

While I do think Bob Schwartz is a retard, he did stumble over the
truth that arguing politics is pointless

I'm not saying anything like what you claim I'm saying.

Therefore, I conclude you are an idiot.


I'll try this again:

There are morons complaining because the president addressed school
children. In some cases they effectively blocked it. Either you were
responding to that or else you weren't. If you weren't and were instead
just responding with your own personal opinion, then that's nice. Not
relevant, but nice. If, as appears to be the case, you believe the
entire controversy to surround the lesson plan then you are simply
incorrect.

As usual, this would be simpler if you thought about your point when
trying to make it instead of indulging in Glen Beck fantasies.

Bill C warned us about illegals and voting:

" Using Illegals as an example here because it's easy. There are 11
States that issue licenses to illegals. Combine that with voter
registration fraud, and even a picture ID does no good at preventing
vote fraud. Lots of other places have extremelty easy to work around
ID systems, showing a piece of mail with your name and address is good
enough ID to vote. Pretty easy to vote a few times with that. We don't
have a good comprehensive system of checking the rolls, and a shortage
of people to do it, along with people trying very hard to block
tightening the system up. "

We're lucky poltiictions like Joe Wilson are warning us about illegals
and health care.

Now Bill C was really independent and knows that there are bad guys on
the far left AND far right right. But the illegals thing isn't a
right-left issue.

Thanks Bill for keeping us informed about the threat.

The destruction of the American Family continues unabated:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090917/...ildren_stabbed

This crap never used to happen.

Fred Fredburger wrote:
The destruction of the American Family continues unabated:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090917/...ildren_stabbed

This crap never used to happen.

Everyone should have the right to own a gun so they can murder more
efficiently.

Robert Chung wrote:
Robert Chung wrote:
Ryan Cousineau wrote:
My wife has a painful but non-life-threatening back ailment. The
doctor wants her to get an MRI for diagnostic purposes. She's been
on the waiting list for it since the start of the year. They told
her she might get an appointment in October.

Dumbass,

No one in the US is suggesting that we adopt a Canadian-style
healthcare system. A few years ago I had a little bout with painful
but non-life-threatening sciatica. In socialized healthcare France I
got an appointment for a CAT scan the next day.

A couple of years ago some French friends of ours got a post-doc to
study in the US. A couple of days after their arrival their kid fell
and broke her arm. A trip to the Emergency room began with a request
for ability to pay and ended with a bill for $2000. Last week I had a
painful but non-life-threatening meeting with an asphalt road. In
socialized healthcare France I got an ambulance ride to the
hospital, an x-ray, and everything appropriate for my broken
collarbone. Because I speak with an American accent they just
presumed I was a tourist without coverage and treated me anyway.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/15/health/15book.html

On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:44:46 -0700, "Robert Chung"
wrote:

Robert Chung wrote:
Robert Chung wrote:
Ryan Cousineau wrote:
My wife has a painful but non-life-threatening back ailment. The
doctor wants her to get an MRI for diagnostic purposes. She's been
on the waiting list for it since the start of the year. They told
her she might get an appointment in October.

Dumbass,

No one in the US is suggesting that we adopt a Canadian-style
healthcare system. A few years ago I had a little bout with painful
but non-life-threatening sciatica. In socialized healthcare France I
got an appointment for a CAT scan the next day.

A couple of years ago some French friends of ours got a post-doc to
study in the US. A couple of days after their arrival their kid fell
and broke her arm. A trip to the Emergency room began with a request
for ability to pay and ended with a bill for $2000.

Illegals! French illegals!

"Johnny Twelve-Point presented by JFT" wrote in
message ...
Robert Chung wrote:

A couple of years ago some French friends of ours got a post-doc to
study in the US. A couple of days after their arrival their kid fell
and broke her arm. A trip to the Emergency room began with a request
for ability to pay and ended with a bill for $2000.

Illegals! French illegals!

I wonder why no one ever makes the point that even if you don't have any
money you get the SAME Emergency Room medical care and you don't pay for it.

My Blue Fukcing Cross insurance wouldn't pay for my emergency care a couple
of years ago. The bill came to $12,000 and the insurance for which I was
paying $1,000 a month paid $1,000 of that bill. I was treated the same as
everyone else including follow up appointments and care. And then the
hospital simply wrote it off when they found I was on Social Security and
unable to pay their bill.

It is law that Emergency Rooms must treat all patients whether or not they
have money.

And who do you think is paying for it? The OTHER hospital users. Not the
people who don't use the hospital as seems to be the dream of so many.

In article ,
"Tom Kunich" wrote:

"Johnny Twelve-Point presented by JFT" wrote in
message ...
Robert Chung wrote:

A couple of years ago some French friends of ours got a post-doc to
study in the US. A couple of days after their arrival their kid fell
and broke her arm. A trip to the Emergency room began with a request
for ability to pay and ended with a bill for $2000.

Illegals! French illegals!

I wonder why no one ever makes the point that even if you don't have any
money you get the SAME Emergency Room medical care and you don't pay for it.

My Blue Fukcing Cross insurance wouldn't pay for my emergency care a couple
of years ago. The bill came to $12,000 and the insurance for which I was
paying $1,000 a month paid $1,000 of that bill. I was treated the same as
everyone else including follow up appointments and care. And then the
hospital simply wrote it off when they found I was on Social Security and
unable to pay their bill.

Hmm, so you'll take advantage of the way the system "works" but that never seems
to slow down your criticisms of others who have to do the same.

--
tanx,
Howard

Caught playing safe
It's a bored game

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

Tom Kunich wrote:

[crazy stuff snipped]

http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.c...deaths-a-year/

On Sep 18, 6:27*pm, "Tom Kunich" wrote:

It is law that Emergency Rooms must treat all patients whether or not they
have money.

The Pro-life Christian thing to do would be to let them die.
-Paul