Stage 1 query...

wrote:

LANCE's gap over the other riders is so big (and the gaps from
3rd on so small) that it's reminiscent of the Chung Chart of
the worlds TT with Millar as the complete outlier:
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/rechung/temp/tt.png

This is better:
http://anonymous.coward.free.fr/rbr/world2003tt.png

If not for Zabriskie's excellent performance, people might start
to talk.

http://anonymous.coward.free.fr/rbr/tdf05-1.png

Robert Chung wrote:
http://anonymous.coward.free.fr/rbr/tdf05-1.png

So Piepoli sucks?

I think that's what you call a 'psyche' on the part of Lance. Extra
drug-tested to emphasize how clean he is, then daylight between him and
almost the entire field (and no tailwind).

Stewart Fleming wrote:
Robert Chung wrote:
http://anonymous.coward.free.fr/rbr/tdf05-1.png

So Piepoli sucks?

I think that's what you call a 'psyche' on the part of Lance. Extra
drug-tested to emphasize how clean he is, then daylight between him and
almost the entire field (and no tailwind).

so does the extra drug testing mean anything? You could say Zabriskie
had the early tailwind, but what did LANCE have?

Robert Chung wrote:
wrote:

LANCE's gap over the other riders is so big (and the gaps from
3rd on so small) that it's reminiscent of the Chung Chart of
the worlds TT with Millar as the complete outlier:
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/rechung/temp/tt.png

This is better:
http://anonymous.coward.free.fr/rbr/world2003tt.png

If not for Zabriskie's excellent performance, people might start
to talk.

http://anonymous.coward.free.fr/rbr/tdf05-1.png

Interesting. Looks like Landis, Ullrich and Leipheimer didn't
warm up enough, or went out a little too conservatively. Not
that it would have changed things much. Piepoli must have
started his KOM strategy early.

I believe this is Georgie-Porgie's third 4th place in a Tour
de France stage (and one 3rd).

"gym.gravity" wrote ...

so does the extra drug testing mean anything? You could say Zabriskie
had the early tailwind, but what did LANCE have?

penache

David Ferguson wrote:
On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 10:14:05 -0700, Jaybee
wrote:


BigLoco wrote:

no chance!


I'm thinking shifting winds.



"Jaybee" wrote in message
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I haven't seen such a disparity between the leader and the others in a TT
of this length. I am happy for Zabriskie, but based on the differences,
is there any possibility, even in this event, that there was a timing error
in his run?



Yep, I was premature based on Lance's performance. But it would be interesting if a
post stage analysis determined why such a large disparity. I agree, most likely is
shifting winds combined with a great performance





Armstrong doesn't gain 6 seconds on a guy from check point one to
check point two and then lose 5 of them, and the win, without
something going on. Maybe he spent it all blowing by Ullrich. Maybe he
wanted another American to get a Yellow Jersey. Maybe he didn't want
to be put in the position of trying to wire to wire the race.

Winds, slipped pedal, increased humidity, blah blah...

It's doing a disservice to Zabriskie to indicate in any way that he
didn't earn or deserve this great win.

I don't know, but no matter what went on Zabriskie is really
establishing himself now. Vuelta, Giro and now TdF. Fantastic.

The big question is whether or not CSC will hold it through the TTT.

D

He threw down his helmet after the end. He wanted to win this stage,
and Zabriskie earned every tenth of a second.

Jim Flom wrote:
"gym.gravity" wrote ...

so does the extra drug testing mean anything? You could say Zabriskie
had the early tailwind, but what did LANCE have?

penache

Anger too, maybe.

Cyclingnews says the wind was constant all day, so Zabriskie must have
some penache too, a lot of it. Must have been at least a 2000mg plug.
This is the second time he won a time trial from the first wave of
riders.

On 07/02/2005 08:14 PM, in article dSHxe.89672$HI.28655@edtnps84, "Jim
Flom" wrote:

"gym.gravity" wrote ...

so does the extra drug testing mean anything? You could say Zabriskie
had the early tailwind, but what did LANCE have?

penache


As long as he doesn't have any of that silly panache stuff ...

So how do you make a penache? You let the ink run dry!


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Jim Flom wrote:
"gym.gravity" wrote ...

so does the extra drug testing mean anything? You could say
Zabriskie had the early tailwind, but what did LANCE have?

penache

Anger too, maybe.

Cyclingnews says the wind was constant all day, so Zabriskie must have
some penache too, a lot of it. Must have been at least a 2000mg plug.
This is the second time he won a time trial from the first wave of
riders.

Peniche or panaché.
Chose or take both. I would.
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"Sandy" wrote ...

Peniche or panaché.
Chose or take both. I would.

Pitooey! :-P