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Old January 15th 18, 09:36 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Emanuel Berg[_2_]
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Did anyone bother with this for bike mechanics?

I just noticed two of my 10mm combination
spanners have their open ends in
opposite directions.

I suppose this is for clearance and so you can
do the correct "adjustable spanner" pull, even
tho I guess it isn't really necessary as there
are no loose parts anymore.

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Old January 15th 18, 09:45 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default combination spanners with different inclinations

Another fine tool issue is longer sockets for
(some) dome nuts.

I know some of you don't like them (the dome
nuts), but I do. I think they look cool and at
least in theory make sense.

Anyway most of the common 13, 14, and 15mm
sockets are to short to get a hold.

Well, can't one use combination spanners for
that as well? Yes, but I would like to use my
torque wrench as I've heard Shimano recommends
28-32 Nm for their 1S hub wheel axle nuts, and
that is the closest I've got to my Torpedos

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Old January 16th 18, 02:32 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 21:36:05 +0100, Emanuel Berg
wrote:

Did anyone bother with this for bike mechanics?

I just noticed two of my 10mm combination
spanners have their open ends in
opposite directions.

I suppose this is for clearance and so you can
do the correct "adjustable spanner" pull, even
tho I guess it isn't really necessary as there
are no loose parts anymore.


For such contortions, I recommend an open end crowfoot wrench:
https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=open+end+crowfoot+wrench

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Old January 16th 18, 02:37 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 21:45:06 +0100, Emanuel Berg
wrote:
... most of the common 13, 14, and 15mm
sockets are to short to get a hold.


Use a deep well socket:
https://www.google.com/search?q=deep+well+metric+sockets&tbm=isch


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Old January 16th 18, 03:51 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Jeff Liebermann wrote:

For such contortions, I recommend an open end
crowfoot wrench:
https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=open+end+crowfoot+wrench


Yuk! Looks awful! I hope I never have to
get/use that! Never saw one either so they
cannot be that common. Perhaps more common in
other fields of mechanics like cars or
even aeroplanes?

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Old January 16th 18, 03:52 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Jeff Liebermann wrote:

Use a deep well socket:
https://www.google.com/search?q=deep+well+metric+sockets&tbm=isch


Great, that's exactly it.

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Old January 16th 18, 06:55 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 03:51:14 +0100, Emanuel Berg
wrote:

Jeff Liebermann wrote:

For such contortions, I recommend an open end
crowfoot wrench:
https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=open+end+crowfoot+wrench


Yuk! Looks awful!


Well, I could probably find one that's nickel plated. Would that look
less awful?

I hope I never have to
get/use that! Never saw one either so they
cannot be that common.


Quite common among those who want a very compact tool box. All you
need is a ratchet wrench or breaker bar, a small collection of
crowfoot wrench ends, and you have something that will work at almost
any angle without adding extra pounds to your tool kit in duplicated
"handles". They're available in thin wrenches, which are more
suitable for bicycle work, like this Park's pedal wrench:
https://www.amazon.com/Park-Tool-Pedal-Wrench-Crow/dp/B00JXNZMMQ

Perhaps more common in
other fields of mechanics like cars or
even aeroplanes?


Dunno where they're popular. All of the major hand tool manufactories
sell them, so it's not like they're stuck in a niche market. Here's
SnapOn's 42 piece set. Not sure of the price, but it's VERY high:
https://store.snapon.com/Open-End-inches-chrome-3-8-Drive-42pc-Open-End-Crowfoot-Wrench-Set-7-16-3--P631834.aspx
More. Notice the prices:
https://store.snapon.com/Open-End-inches-chrome-C867430.aspx
and that it's listed under "Aviation hand tools".

I have a set of 3/8" drive crowfoot wrenches that I keep in my car. I
don't use them very often, but they're useful when nothing else will
fit.

A hinged ratcheting box and open end combination wrench is another
possible solution:
http://www.ultimategarage.com/shop/part.php?products_id=5762
https://www.ebay.com/itm/GearWrench-7-Pc-Metric-Ratcheting-Combination-Flex-Head-Wrench-Set-9900-10-12-/252840233876

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Old January 16th 18, 07:15 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Jeff Liebermann wrote:

Yuk! Looks awful!


Well, I could probably find one that's nickel
plated. Would that look less awful?


Ha ha, no, I mean the image with the crowfoot
wrench, the extender bar (?) and the ratchet,
it just looks grotesque, like a bird with
a cat's head or something... (and not in a nice
way if you happen to be an ornithologist as
well as cat person)

hinged ratchet box


Indeed.

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Old January 16th 18, 08:13 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 07:15:40 +0100, Emanuel Berg
wrote:

Jeff Liebermann wrote:

Yuk! Looks awful!


Well, I could probably find one that's nickel
plated. Would that look less awful?


Ha ha, no, I mean the image with the crowfoot
wrench, the extender bar (?) and the ratchet,
it just looks grotesque, like a bird with
a cat's head or something... (and not in a nice
way if you happen to be an ornithologist as
well as cat person)


Looks good to me:
http://incrediblethings.com/pets/meowls-cat-heads-owl-bodies/

hinged ratchet box


Indeed.


Well, you could also make your own wrenches. The technique would be
similar to making your own knife. Buy a bar of heat treatable steel
that's the correct thickness:
http://www.onlinemetals.com
Trim to shape with either a band saw or angle grinder. Refine the
shape with an angle grinder, belt sander or hand file. Make a fancy
wooden handle in the same manner as a custom knife. Harden and anneal
the wrench. Clean up the slag, oil the wooden handle, make YouTube
video, and you're done.

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Old January 16th 18, 07:05 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Monday, January 15, 2018 at 9:51:18 PM UTC-5, Emanuel Berg wrote:
Jeff Liebermann wrote:

For such contortions, I recommend an open end
crowfoot wrench:
https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=open+end+crowfoot+wrench


Yuk! Looks awful! I hope I never have to
get/use that! Never saw one either so they
cannot be that common. Perhaps more common in
other fields of mechanics like cars or
even aeroplanes?

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Crowfoot wrenches are common in the aircraft industry. Hydraulic fitting nuts must be torqued to exact specifications. The crowfoot is the only way to do it.
 




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