Conservative guy

On 11/14/2020 2:13 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 6:20:30 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 11/13/2020 8:09 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 4:06:38 PM UTC-8, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 14:25:43 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 12:47:06 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 11/13/2020 2:00 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 10:17:02 AM UTC-8, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 8:23:09 AM UTC-8, wrote:
On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 11:35:20 PM UTC-8, wrote:
Op donderdag 12 november 2020 om 23:51:04 UTC+1 schreef Frank Krygowski:
Wow, what a conservative guy. About bicycles, that is.

Old news, but still interesting thoughts.

https://www.roadbikereview.com/revie...ritchey-design

--
- Frank Krygowski
Just a (biased) opinion Frank. Nothing wrong with that BTW. You know they sell ultra light CF handlebars, stems and seatposts with his name on it.
Trek bought up the rights to the Bontrager line a long time ago and all of their line of accessories have Bontrager on them. So Keith and others now market their own ideas under other names.
What does that have to do with Tom Ritchey?

Maybe you should go back to foaming at the mouth about some lunatic conspiracy -- at least until the nurse delivers your morning medications. Also ask her for some Neosporin for your saddle sore.

-- Jay Beattie
Your correct Jay, it is not a conspiracy, it is now out in the open. https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...il&FORM =VIRE
Wow. Is that the sort of stuff you listen to?

I see Tim Pool left school at age 14. I think I understand your affinity.

I see you still haven't told me your address. What do you have to worry about? It would appear that you're younger than I am and so you should be able to handle yourself against a 76 year old man.
But Tommy, what is the purpose of telling you Frank's address. After
all, if you can't afford groceries you'd never be able to afford a bus
ticket to visit Frank and return.

Or perhaps, like the 10th Bomb Wing, you'd just imagine the trip.

Then he has nothing to fear does he?
:-) Nope!

Tom, I wouldn't fear you if you lived next door. And you should ask your
therapist about your Walter Mitty fantasies.


--
- Frank Krygowski
So exactly where in Springfield do you live ?

:-) Tom, you're such a cartoon!


--
- Frank Krygowski

On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 11:17:21 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 5:33:05 PM UTC-8, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 17:09:23 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 4:06:38 PM UTC-8, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 14:25:43 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 12:47:06 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 11/13/2020 2:00 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 10:17:02 AM UTC-8, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 8:23:09 AM UTC-8, wrote:
On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 11:35:20 PM UTC-8, wrote:
Op donderdag 12 november 2020 om 23:51:04 UTC+1 schreef Frank Krygowski:
Wow, what a conservative guy. About bicycles, that is.

Old news, but still interesting thoughts.

https://www.roadbikereview.com/revie...ritchey-design

--
- Frank Krygowski
Just a (biased) opinion Frank. Nothing wrong with that BTW. You know they sell ultra light CF handlebars, stems and seatposts with his name on it.
Trek bought up the rights to the Bontrager line a long time ago and all of their line of accessories have Bontrager on them. So Keith and others now market their own ideas under other names.
What does that have to do with Tom Ritchey?

Maybe you should go back to foaming at the mouth about some lunatic conspiracy -- at least until the nurse delivers your morning medications. Also ask her for some Neosporin for your saddle sore.

-- Jay Beattie
Your correct Jay, it is not a conspiracy, it is now out in the open. https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...il&FORM =VIRE
Wow. Is that the sort of stuff you listen to?

I see Tim Pool left school at age 14. I think I understand your affinity.

I see you still haven't told me your address. What do you have to worry about? It would appear that you're younger than I am and so you should be able to handle yourself against a 76 year old man.
But Tommy, what is the purpose of telling you Frank's address. After
all, if you can't afford groceries you'd never be able to afford a bus
ticket to visit Frank and return.

Or perhaps, like the 10th Bomb Wing, you'd just imagine the trip.

Then he has nothing to fear does he?
Well, he doesn't seem to be cringing in fear. In fact he seems to be
ignoring you.

Hard to believe, I admit, you being such an important and
knowledgeable person.

Tell us what you are John? Someone with do little money that
they have to rely on a military retirement back when that was a mere
pittance. Today they make more in one month than you do in a year.
Pretty funny that your story about where you were and what you did
seems to change every time you talk about it.


Gee, Tommy got it wrong again.

Franck isn't retired from the Military you friggin idiot, it was Me,
JOHN, who is.

And, military retirement or not I do well enough. We own two homes,
one in Bangkok and one in a country town about 200 km. N.E. of
Bangkok, and perhaps my crowning achievement, we don't complain about
the cost of groceries.

Please note the "own" we paid cash for the two houses.
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Saturday, November 14, 2020 at 4:11:53 PM UTC-8, John B. wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 11:17:21 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 5:33:05 PM UTC-8, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 17:09:23 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 4:06:38 PM UTC-8, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 14:25:43 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 12:47:06 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 11/13/2020 2:00 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 10:17:02 AM UTC-8, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 8:23:09 AM UTC-8, wrote:
On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 11:35:20 PM UTC-8, wrote:
Op donderdag 12 november 2020 om 23:51:04 UTC+1 schreef Frank Krygowski:
Wow, what a conservative guy. About bicycles, that is.

Old news, but still interesting thoughts.

https://www.roadbikereview.com/revie...ritchey-design

--
- Frank Krygowski
Just a (biased) opinion Frank. Nothing wrong with that BTW. You know they sell ultra light CF handlebars, stems and seatposts with his name on it.
Trek bought up the rights to the Bontrager line a long time ago and all of their line of accessories have Bontrager on them. So Keith and others now market their own ideas under other names.
What does that have to do with Tom Ritchey?

Maybe you should go back to foaming at the mouth about some lunatic conspiracy -- at least until the nurse delivers your morning medications. Also ask her for some Neosporin for your saddle sore.

-- Jay Beattie
Your correct Jay, it is not a conspiracy, it is now out in the open. https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...il&FORM =VIRE
Wow. Is that the sort of stuff you listen to?

I see Tim Pool left school at age 14. I think I understand your affinity.

I see you still haven't told me your address. What do you have to worry about? It would appear that you're younger than I am and so you should be able to handle yourself against a 76 year old man.
But Tommy, what is the purpose of telling you Frank's address. After
all, if you can't afford groceries you'd never be able to afford a bus
ticket to visit Frank and return.

Or perhaps, like the 10th Bomb Wing, you'd just imagine the trip.

Then he has nothing to fear does he?
Well, he doesn't seem to be cringing in fear. In fact he seems to be
ignoring you.

Hard to believe, I admit, you being such an important and
knowledgeable person.

Tell us what you are John? Someone with do little money that
they have to rely on a military retirement back when that was a mere
pittance. Today they make more in one month than you do in a year.
Pretty funny that your story about where you were and what you did
seems to change every time you talk about it.
Gee, Tommy got it wrong again.

Franck isn't retired from the Military you friggin idiot, it was Me,
JOHN, who is.

And, military retirement or not I do well enough. We own two homes,
one in Bangkok and one in a country town about 200 km. N.E. of
Bangkok, and perhaps my crowning achievement, we don't complain about
the cost of groceries.

Please note the "own" we paid cash for the two houses.

Your education is so good that you don't even know how to spell Frank and I never said nor implied that Frank would ever be brave enough to even be drafted. He is the sort of chap that would have run to Canada.

On 11/14/2020 4:05 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 11/14/2020 2:13 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 6:20:30 PM UTC-8, Frank
Krygowski wrote:
On 11/13/2020 8:09 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 4:06:38 PM UTC-8, John
B. wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 14:25:43 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 12:47:06 PM UTC-8,
Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 11/13/2020 2:00 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 10:17:02 AM UTC-8,
jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 8:23:09 AM UTC-8,
wrote:
On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 11:35:20 PM
UTC-8, wrote:
Op donderdag 12 november 2020 om 23:51:04 UTC+1
schreef Frank Krygowski:
Wow, what a conservative guy. About bicycles,
that is.

Old news, but still interesting thoughts.

https://www.roadbikereview.com/revie...ritchey-design


--
- Frank Krygowski
Just a (biased) opinion Frank. Nothing wrong with
that BTW. You know they sell ultra light CF
handlebars, stems and seatposts with his name on it.
Trek bought up the rights to the Bontrager line a
long time ago and all of their line of accessories
have Bontrager on them. So Keith and others now
market their own ideas under other names.
What does that have to do with Tom Ritchey?

Maybe you should go back to foaming at the mouth
about some lunatic conspiracy -- at least until the
nurse delivers your morning medications. Also ask
her for some Neosporin for your saddle sore.

-- Jay Beattie
Your correct Jay, it is not a conspiracy, it is now
out in the open.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...il&FORM =VIRE

Wow. Is that the sort of stuff you listen to?

I see Tim Pool left school at age 14. I think I
understand your affinity.

I see you still haven't told me your address. What do
you have to worry about? It would appear that you're
younger than I am and so you should be able to handle
yourself against a 76 year old man.
But Tommy, what is the purpose of telling you Frank's
address. After
all, if you can't afford groceries you'd never be able
to afford a bus
ticket to visit Frank and return.

Or perhaps, like the 10th Bomb Wing, you'd just imagine
the trip.

Then he has nothing to fear does he?
:-) Nope!

Tom, I wouldn't fear you if you lived next door. And you
should ask your
therapist about your Walter Mitty fantasies.


--
- Frank Krygowski
So exactly where in Springfield do you live ?

:-) Tom, you're such a cartoon!



I thought Homer Simpson was a Springfield cartoon.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On 11/15/2020 11:16 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/14/2020 4:05 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 11/14/2020 2:13 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 6:20:30 PM UTC-8, Frank
Krygowski wrote:
On 11/13/2020 8:09 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 4:06:38 PM UTC-8, John
B. wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 14:25:43 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 12:47:06 PM UTC-8,
Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 11/13/2020 2:00 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 10:17:02 AM UTC-8,
jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 8:23:09 AM UTC-8,
wrote:
On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 11:35:20 PM
UTC-8, wrote:
Op donderdag 12 november 2020 om 23:51:04 UTC+1
schreef Frank Krygowski:
Wow, what a conservative guy. About bicycles,
that is.

Old news, but still interesting thoughts.

https://www.roadbikereview.com/revie...ritchey-design



--
- Frank Krygowski
Just a (biased) opinion Frank. Nothing wrong with
that BTW. You know they sell ultra light CF
handlebars, stems and seatposts with his name on it.
Trek bought up the rights to the Bontrager line a
long time ago and all of their line of accessories
have Bontrager on them. So Keith and others now
market their own ideas under other names.
What does that have to do with Tom Ritchey?

Maybe you should go back to foaming at the mouth
about some lunatic conspiracy -- at least until the
nurse delivers your morning medications. Also ask
her for some Neosporin for your saddle sore.

-- Jay Beattie
Your correct Jay, it is not a conspiracy, it is now
out in the open.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...il&FORM =VIRE


Wow. Is that the sort of stuff you listen to?

I see Tim Pool left school at age 14. I think I
understand your affinity.

I see you still haven't told me your address. What do
you have to worry about? It would appear that you're
younger than I am and so you should be able to handle
yourself against a 76 year old man.
But Tommy, what is the purpose of telling you Frank's
address. After
all, if you can't afford groceries you'd never be able
to afford a bus
ticket to visit Frank and return.

Or perhaps, like the 10th Bomb Wing, you'd just imagine
the trip.

Then he has nothing to fear does he?
:-) Nope!

Tom, I wouldn't fear you if you lived next door. And you
should ask your
therapist about your Walter Mitty fantasies.


--
- Frank Krygowski
So exactly where in Springfield do you live ?

:-)Â* Tom, you're such a cartoon!

I thought Homer Simpson was a Springfield cartoon.

Yes, hence my remark.

Can't we all visualize Tom as a Simpsons character? Always arguing and
bragging, but always miserable? Continually spending money to shave
grams, but often confused about how to work on his bike? One minute
claiming he knows more than anyone, the next minute moaning about his
forgetfulness? There's a lot for Matt Groening to work with.

--
- Frank Krygowski

On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 4:51:04 PM UTC-6, Frank Krygowski wrote:
Wow, what a conservative guy. About bicycles, that is.

Old news, but still interesting thoughts.

https://www.roadbikereview.com/revie...ritchey-design

--
- Frank Krygowski

The only bad thing he's done is discontinued the original hexagonal neoprene True-Grip. But he's right about other ****. The important cycling innovations for regular riders aren't super sexy but significant. Better tires, better bearing seals, vee and dual pivot brakes for fifteen bucks that work great. Those things are nifty. Frame material obsession is boring. Steel is plenty fine and durable. Light enough.

I just installed a cheapo Tange Passage on my roadster with loose stainless balls and Stay-Plex grease. That's trickle down tech from two generations ago. Fifteen bucks and it'll last near forever.

On 15/11/2020 19:42, landotter wrote:
On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 4:51:04 PM UTC-6, Frank Krygowski
wrote:
Wow, what a conservative guy. About bicycles, that is.

Old news, but still interesting thoughts.

https://www.roadbikereview.com/revie...ritchey-design



--
- Frank Krygowski

The only bad thing he's done is discontinued the original hexagonal
neoprene True-Grip. But he's right about other ****. The important
cycling innovations for regular riders aren't super sexy but
significant. Better tires, better bearing seals, vee and dual pivot
brakes for fifteen bucks that work great. Those things are nifty.
Frame material obsession is boring. Steel is plenty fine and durable.
Light enough.

I just installed a cheapo Tange Passage on my roadster with loose
stainless balls and Stay-Plex grease. That's trickle down tech from
two generations ago. Fifteen bucks and it'll last near forever.

I think the the most important progress has been in brakes[1] and
lights. I could go with sealed bottom brackets, but once we lost those
bloody cotter pins things were pretty golden on that front. Oh, and
affordable anodised rims. Do you remember chromed steel rims!?
shudder Maybe paint finished as well. Modern surface coats are damn
good. Tyres as well, no big jumps but they keep getting better.

The rest? Interesting, but none for me. E.g. How many outside BBs did
I trash/year before I gave up on the bloody things? I used to change
them with the chain annually if they lasted that long.

[1] Yes I'm going to include discs here. Let the flame wars begin...

On 11/15/2020 12:42 PM, landotter wrote:
On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 4:51:04 PM UTC-6, Frank Krygowski wrote:
Wow, what a conservative guy. About bicycles, that is.

Old news, but still interesting thoughts.

https://www.roadbikereview.com/revie...ritchey-design

--
- Frank Krygowski

The only bad thing he's done is discontinued the original hexagonal neoprene True-Grip. But he's right about other ****. The important cycling innovations for regular riders aren't super sexy but significant. Better tires, better bearing seals, vee and dual pivot brakes for fifteen bucks that work great. Those things are nifty. Frame material obsession is boring. Steel is plenty fine and durable. Light enough.

I just installed a cheapo Tange Passage on my roadster with loose stainless balls and Stay-Plex grease. That's trickle down tech from two generations ago. Fifteen bucks and it'll last near forever.


Velo makes a perfect copy of the hex True Grip (assuming
they were not the original vendor anyway, which they may
well have been)

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Sunday, November 15, 2020 at 11:30:46 AM UTC-8, Tosspot wrote:
On 15/11/2020 19:42, landotter wrote:
On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 4:51:04 PM UTC-6, Frank Krygowski
wrote:
Wow, what a conservative guy. About bicycles, that is.

Old news, but still interesting thoughts.

https://www.roadbikereview.com/revie...ritchey-design



--
- Frank Krygowski

The only bad thing he's done is discontinued the original hexagonal
neoprene True-Grip. But he's right about other ****. The important
cycling innovations for regular riders aren't super sexy but
significant. Better tires, better bearing seals, vee and dual pivot
brakes for fifteen bucks that work great. Those things are nifty.
Frame material obsession is boring. Steel is plenty fine and durable.
Light enough.

I just installed a cheapo Tange Passage on my roadster with loose
stainless balls and Stay-Plex grease. That's trickle down tech from
two generations ago. Fifteen bucks and it'll last near forever.
I think the the most important progress has been in brakes[1] and
lights. I could go with sealed bottom brackets, but once we lost those
bloody cotter pins things were pretty golden on that front. Oh, and
affordable anodised rims. Do you remember chromed steel rims!?
shudder Maybe paint finished as well. Modern surface coats are damn
good. Tyres as well, no big jumps but they keep getting better.

The rest? Interesting, but none for me. E.g. How many outside BBs did
I trash/year before I gave up on the bloody things? I used to change
them with the chain annually if they lasted that long.

[1] Yes I'm going to include discs here. Let the flame wars begin...

If you don't use an external BB, what kind of BB do you use? Did you go back to square drive?

-- Jay Beattie.

On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 07:16:17 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Saturday, November 14, 2020 at 4:11:53 PM UTC-8, John B. wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 11:17:21 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 5:33:05 PM UTC-8, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 17:09:23 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 4:06:38 PM UTC-8, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 14:25:43 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 12:47:06 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 11/13/2020 2:00 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 10:17:02 AM UTC-8, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 8:23:09 AM UTC-8, wrote:
On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 11:35:20 PM UTC-8, wrote:
Op donderdag 12 november 2020 om 23:51:04 UTC+1 schreef Frank Krygowski:
Wow, what a conservative guy. About bicycles, that is.

Old news, but still interesting thoughts.

https://www.roadbikereview.com/revie...ritchey-design

--
- Frank Krygowski
Just a (biased) opinion Frank. Nothing wrong with that BTW. You know they sell ultra light CF handlebars, stems and seatposts with his name on it.
Trek bought up the rights to the Bontrager line a long time ago and all of their line of accessories have Bontrager on them. So Keith and others now market their own ideas under other names.
What does that have to do with Tom Ritchey?

Maybe you should go back to foaming at the mouth about some lunatic conspiracy -- at least until the nurse delivers your morning medications. Also ask her for some Neosporin for your saddle sore.

-- Jay Beattie
Your correct Jay, it is not a conspiracy, it is now out in the open. https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...il&FORM =VIRE
Wow. Is that the sort of stuff you listen to?

I see Tim Pool left school at age 14. I think I understand your affinity.

I see you still haven't told me your address. What do you have to worry about? It would appear that you're younger than I am and so you should be able to handle yourself against a 76 year old man.
But Tommy, what is the purpose of telling you Frank's address. After
all, if you can't afford groceries you'd never be able to afford a bus
ticket to visit Frank and return.

Or perhaps, like the 10th Bomb Wing, you'd just imagine the trip.

Then he has nothing to fear does he?
Well, he doesn't seem to be cringing in fear. In fact he seems to be
ignoring you.

Hard to believe, I admit, you being such an important and
knowledgeable person.

Tell us what you are John? Someone with do little money that
they have to rely on a military retirement back when that was a mere
pittance. Today they make more in one month than you do in a year.
Pretty funny that your story about where you were and what you did
seems to change every time you talk about it.
Gee, Tommy got it wrong again.

Franck isn't retired from the Military you friggin idiot, it was Me,
JOHN, who is.

And, military retirement or not I do well enough. We own two homes,
one in Bangkok and one in a country town about 200 km. N.E. of
Bangkok, and perhaps my crowning achievement, we don't complain about
the cost of groceries.

Please note the "own" we paid cash for the two houses.

Your education is so good that you don't even know how to spell Frank and I never said nor implied that Frank would ever be brave enough to even be drafted. He is the sort of chap that would have run to Canada.

No, I can spell FRANK, I just didn't spell check the post.

But what has you saying that "have to rely on a military retirement
back when that was a mere pittance." and me replying that I was "doing
well enough to own two houses" have to do with Frank going to Canada?

I really do think you should query your Psychologist about your
medicines as you seem to be hallucinating more and more these days.
--
Cheers,

John B.