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Old June 2nd 11, 05:38 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Zenon
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Default Cycling must 'dare to change'

http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today...00/9490860.stm

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Old June 2nd 11, 06:00 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Mike Jacoubowsky
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"Zenon" wrote in message
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today...00/9490860.stm


"The question now is whether one of the world's dirtiest sports can lead
the cleanup."

Slow news day, eh?

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com


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Old June 2nd 11, 06:18 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Randall
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A first offense lifetime ban is the only answer.

On Jun 1, 10:00*pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
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"Zenon" wrote in message

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today...00/9490860.stm


"The question now is whether one of the world's dirtiest sports can lead
the cleanup."

Slow news day, eh?

--Mike-- * * Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReactionBicycles.com


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Old June 2nd 11, 01:40 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Anton Berlin
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On Jun 2, 12:00*am, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
wrote:
"Zenon" wrote in message

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today...00/9490860.stm


"The question now is whether one of the world's dirtiest sports can lead
the cleanup."

Slow news day, eh?

--Mike-- * * Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReactionBicycles.com


Can you point to a dirtier more corrupt sport ?
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Old June 2nd 11, 01:41 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Revtom
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On Jun 2, 12:18*am, Randall wrote:
A first offense lifetime ban is the only answer.

On Jun 1, 10:00*pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
wrote:

"Zenon" wrote in message


....


http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today...00/9490860.stm


"The question now is whether one of the world's dirtiest sports can lead
the cleanup."


Slow news day, eh?


--Mike-- * * Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReactionBicycles.com


Zero tolerance accomplishes nothing. Call for: All riders to 'fess up.
General amnesty. Stop the madness of multiple mountain climbs and/or
summit finishes in the same week(of major tours). Better hotels,
shorter transfers. The current testing protocols seem to be working;
testing during competition should not be done in the middle of the
night. Don't pounce on sub-therapeutic positives. Pro riders are not
flying airliners, operating heavy machinery, or performing surgery.
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Old June 2nd 11, 02:01 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Fred Flintstein
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On 6/2/2011 7:40 AM, Anton Berlin wrote:
On Jun 2, 12:00 am, "Mike
wrote:
wrote in message

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today...00/9490860.stm


"The question now is whether one of the world's dirtiest sports can lead
the cleanup."

Slow news day, eh?

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReactionBicycles.com


Can you point to a dirtier more corrupt sport ?


Tennis. Soccer. NBA Basketball. Hockey.

The whole ****ing Olympics movement, top to bottom.

Dumbass.

F
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Old June 2nd 11, 02:05 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Fred Flintstein
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On 6/2/2011 7:41 AM, Revtom wrote:
On Jun 2, 12:18 am, wrote:
A first offense lifetime ban is the only answer.

On Jun 1, 10:00 pm, "Mike
wrote:

wrote in message


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http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today...00/9490860.stm


"The question now is whether one of the world's dirtiest sports can lead
the cleanup."


Slow news day, eh?


--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReactionBicycles.com


Zero tolerance accomplishes nothing. Call for: All riders to 'fess up.
General amnesty. Stop the madness of multiple mountain climbs and/or
summit finishes in the same week(of major tours). Better hotels,
shorter transfers. The current testing protocols seem to be working;
testing during competition should not be done in the middle of the
night. Don't pounce on sub-therapeutic positives. Pro riders are not
flying airliners, operating heavy machinery, or performing surgery.


If cycling would adopt the testing procedures that other major sports
did all this would stop and we could get back to watching the sport.

Sports that are not run by idiots don't have these problems.

F
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Old June 2nd 11, 02:28 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Anton Berlin
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On Jun 2, 8:01*am, Fred Flintstein
wrote:
On 6/2/2011 7:40 AM, Anton Berlin wrote:









On Jun 2, 12:00 am, "Mike
wrote:
*wrote in message


....


http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today...00/9490860.stm


"The question now is whether one of the world's dirtiest sports can lead
the cleanup."


Slow news day, eh?


--Mike-- * * Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReactionBicycles.com


Can you point to a dirtier more corrupt sport ?


Tennis. Soccer. NBA Basketball. Hockey.

The whole ****ing Olympics movement, top to bottom.

Dumbass.

F


Bull**** - show the stats you ****ing ****.

There are more positive tests in cycling and more org corruption (UCI)
than perhaps all others combined. And in %s cycling wins hands
down

You really do have your head up your ass Schwartzstein McJewstein
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Old June 2nd 11, 03:15 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Brad Anders
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On Jun 1, 9:38*pm, Zenon wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today...00/9490860.stm


IMO, the change that needs to be made is to recognize that you're not
going to stop drug cheating through draconian measures. Read the
recent report on the "Global War on Drugs"

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/natio...failure/38399/

Pretty high-level, rather conservative group that came to this
conclusion. It's no different in sport, worse, perhaps. Legalization
and medical monitoring of the majority of drugs used in cycling is a
better solution than continuing to stick our heads in the sand and
believe this sport (or any) can be made "clean". At least we wouldn't
have to wait 1+ year to find out who "won" the TdF. It would also let
those who are considering being a pro cyclist know what they're
getting into, instead of being lied to and deceived.
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Old June 2nd 11, 04:34 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Fredmaster of Brainerd
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On Jun 2, 6:28*am, Anton Berlin wrote:
On Jun 2, 8:01*am, Fred Flintstein
wrote:



On 6/2/2011 7:40 AM, Anton Berlin wrote:


On Jun 2, 12:00 am, "Mike
wrote:
*wrote in message


...


http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today...00/9490860.stm


"The question now is whether one of the world's dirtiest sports can lead
the cleanup."


Slow news day, eh?


--Mike-- * * Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReactionBicycles.com


Can you point to a dirtier more corrupt sport ?


Tennis. Soccer. NBA Basketball. Hockey.


The whole ****ing Olympics movement, top to bottom.


Dumbass.


F


Bull**** - show the stats you ****ing ****.

There are more positive tests in cycling and more org corruption (UCI)
than perhaps all others combined. * And in %s cycling wins hands
down

You really do have your head up your ass Schwartzstein McJewstein


Dumbass,

Jesus Christ on a cracker, read the news about the latest
FIFA election before you start ranting about how the UCI is
the most corrupt of all corrupt sports governing bodies.

Other orgs bury their positive tests. That's small potatoes
compared to the rest of their corruptions.

Fredmaster Ben
 




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