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Joe Canuck wrote:
I often encounter pedestrians on bike paths, not unusual here since we share them. However, these pedestrians insist on walking towards the oncoming bike/pedestrian traffic in whatever lane they happen to be in. I figure their logic is they want to see what is coming and would rather not be approached from the rear by a fast moving bike. When the path is not busy this is no big deal, but it can create quite the obstacle course when the path is busy. Even worse, sometimes these pedestrians meet someone they know and stop for an extended chat in one or both lanes of the path effectively creating an obstacle... rather than moving off to the side. Then there are those mixed standing-still groups of pedestrians and cyclists having a chat on the path. Are these the same folks who stop in the middle of the freeway at night with no lights on in their vehicles? Joe-Yeah, I see that too, reminds me of the aisle blocking head-up-a** behavior seen in supermarkets. Anytime I'm riding & I see one group of walkers about to pass another going in the opposite direction & me coming up fast from behind, I know it's going to get interesting. A person on foot can make a 3 foot lateral move quickly & stably with one step (hopefully in the correct direction, definitely not a given!); even going slowly it takes a bike several yards to do this, particularly if the rider is forced off the trail into the grass. I actually bumped into a woman the other day this way when she walked right into me, looking directly at me the whole time. Fortunately by that point I was barely moving (wobbling, really). I generally make several loops of this trail system on a ride & therefore will pass the same individuals a number of times on a given trip. What kills me is that one near miss at 15 mph is not enough to get it through their thick skulls that they are not the only humans on the planet. Dan |
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"Dan" wrote in message
... Joe Canuck wrote: I often encounter pedestrians on bike paths, not unusual here since we share them. However, these pedestrians insist on walking towards the oncoming bike/pedestrian traffic in whatever lane they happen to be in. I figure their logic is they want to see what is coming and would rather not be approached from the rear by a fast moving bike. When the path is not busy this is no big deal, but it can create quite the obstacle course when the path is busy. Even worse, sometimes these pedestrians meet someone they know and stop for an extended chat in one or both lanes of the path effectively creating an obstacle... rather than moving off to the side. Then there are those mixed standing-still groups of pedestrians and cyclists having a chat on the path. Are these the same folks who stop in the middle of the freeway at night with no lights on in their vehicles? Joe-Yeah, I see that too, reminds me of the aisle blocking head-up-a** behavior seen in supermarkets. Anytime I'm riding & I see one group of walkers about to pass another going in the opposite direction & me coming up fast from behind, I know it's going to get interesting. A person on foot can make a 3 foot lateral move quickly & stably with one step (hopefully in the correct direction, definitely not a given!); even going slowly it takes a bike several yards to do this, particularly if the rider is forced off the trail into the grass. I actually bumped into a woman the other day this way when she walked right into me, looking directly at me the whole time. Fortunately by that point I was barely moving (wobbling, really). I generally make several loops of this trail system on a ride & therefore will pass the same individuals a number of times on a given trip. What kills me is that one near miss at 15 mph is not enough to get it through their thick skulls that they are not the only humans on the planet. Dan Moron...if you're threading through groups of peds while "coming up fast from behind", you're the one with the problem. Try removing the training wheels from your bike, and ride where bikes belong - in the street. If you're bumping into peds on a MUP, you're a dangerous idiot. GG GG |
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Scott en Aztlán wrote:
On 15 May 2005 00:50:14 -0700, "Bob" wrote: Adult cyclists should almost never ride on sidewalks but having said that what pedestrians is this particular pair endangering, the photographer? If so, that cameraman must have amazing reflexes to be able to narrowly escape being run over and still be able to whip out his trusty camera in time to capture that photograph as the pair... ummmm... "sped" away. Actually, the camera was already out, taking pictures of the landscaping in the right hand side of the photograph (I can post the others if you'd like). My wife saw an unusual type of plant which she thought might look good in our back yard, so I took some pictures of it for her. Then these two chumps brushed by on their bicycles, so I snapped them, too. The sidewalk is for walking, not for creating an obstacle by using it as a platform for taking pictures or chatting on the cell phone. Want to chat on the phone or take pictures, move off to the side. |
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Scott en Aztl=E1n wrote: OBTW, in what way is it "trolling" to relate a TRUE STORY about my experience with arrogant, sidewalk-riding pedalcyclists? Is it "trolling" when I tell about the times some asshole in an SUV practically ran me off the road when I was riding my bike? Based on your past performance, I'd say anything _you_ post is a troll unless ruled otherwise by a unanimous Supreme Court decision. But that's just my opinion. Have a nice day, Scott. ;-) - Frank Krygowski |
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Scott en Aztlán wrote:
On 15 May 2005 00:50:14 -0700, "Bob" wrote: Adult cyclists should almost never ride on sidewalks but having said that what pedestrians is this particular pair endangering, the photographer? If so, that cameraman must have amazing reflexes to be able to narrowly escape being run over and still be able to whip out his trusty camera in time to capture that photograph as the pair... ummmm... "sped" away. Actually, the camera was already out, taking pictures of the landscaping in the right hand side of the photograph (I can post the others if you'd like). My wife saw an unusual type of plant which she thought might look good in our back yard, so I took some pictures of it for her. Then these two chumps brushed by on their bicycles, so I snapped them, too. I'm guessing it's really hard to get past your wife on an airport runway, much less a wide sidewalk. STOP HOGGING THE PATHWAY WITH YOUR SIDE-BY-SIDE WADDLING!!! |
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GaryG wrote:
Moron...if you're threading through groups of peds while "coming up fast from behind", you're the one with the problem. Try removing the training wheels from your bike, and ride where bikes belong - in the street. If you're bumping into peds on a MUP, you're a dangerous idiot. GG GG My my my, what a nasty temper you have there. And such a big mouth. Do you talk this way to people face to face? I doubt you have the guts, little man. When you're not indulging your ugly, frustrated personality on with insulting ng posts, how do you usually express it, beating your wife & kids, perhaps? What am I saying, that would imply you actually have human contact outside of your usenet outbursts. The incident in question occurred on a designated BIKE path. And apparently you missed the part about how the woman walked into ME when I was traveling at a walking pace. I'll agree with the OP on this thread with regards to "responding in kind"; Go to hell, asshole. Dan |
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"Scott en Aztlán" wrote in message
... I turned to him and said "use the bike lane, ****head." Then we walked on, shaking our heads in disbelief. Why do supposedly mature adults think it's OK to ride their bikes on the sidewalk? Why do supposedly mature adults think it's OK to say things like, "use the bike lane, ****head"? However, I do agree that not enough cyclists realize the need to be in the street - Yesterday while I was out riding I saw a cyclist barreling along on the sidewalk going against traffic. He came to an intersection, cut off an unsuspecting driver making a right turn, got honked at, and proceeded to stand over his bike performing a one-fingered salute as the car drove off. Even my computer has better manners! :-) Not In Dictionary: ****head Change To: hothead -- Scott Ehardt http://www.scehardt.com |
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Ok, I'm outa this one.
Scottie started yet another flame war. Let the cycling community drop this one and take the high road. |
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"Scott en Aztlán" wrote in message ... On Sat, 14 May 2005 19:56:14 -0400, "WeatherGuy" wrote: This behaviour by the cyclist was unacceptable. The "****head" was unacceptable as well. There are times when it is necessary for safety reasons to ride on a sidewalk Riding a bicycle on the sidewalk is against California law. There are no exceptions for "safety reasons." Yet police are not shy about inviting children to ride on the sidewalk on some routes close to schools to keep them out of danger. I've seen it done in person in my little town. In a Palo Alto there are many road signs in similar neighborhoods that say "Bicyclist may use sidewalks". I expect these are directed at the younger riders. Last time I took my 10 year old daughter on a 10 mile odyssey I had pulled out my beater hybrid and she was on her mountain bike and we were heading along at a decent pace on the local MUP, slowing to carefully pass pedistrians when two guys on road bikes in full kits screamed by us. She was very surprised (I saw them coming in my mirror.) I explained that apparently they were very lost. |
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