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School kids rarely ride bicycle anymore, why?
On 2020-02-19 14:40, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 10:30:04 AM UTC-8, Joerg wrote: On 2020-02-17 12:42, wrote: [...] This was 30-35-40 years ago. So well before Frank's "danger, danger, danger" mantra began to frighten bicyclists. So I don't know why I was the ONLY kid who rode a bicycle to school. I did know of one other kid who rode bicycles recreationally like me. Weird thing is, all the bike paths I used back then are still there and they even built a few additional ones. The slog along a dangerous route is eliminated, a section where as a kid I witnessed a cyclist being hit by a truck. Yet ... way less kids ride. I don't understand it. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ We have a bunch of bicycle activists in the bay area and thanks to them we are getting bicycle paths all over the place. The nice things about those is that it keeps the rookies off of the road. Out here they usually build good bike paths and almost everyone uses them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylo-h5Sklzo Though I prefer the simpler paths such as the route from Folsom to Lotus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvI1W7kmc4o -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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School kids rarely ride bicycle anymore, why?
Am 19.02.2020 um 22:37 schrieb Frank Krygowski:
As I've said before, fashion is weird and powerful. I think it's very likely that few kids ride just because few other kids ride. And it could be that if enough "cool kids" started riding, hundreds more would follow. But fashion is hard to influence or control. In my daughter's school, half the kid come by bicycle (at least when the weather is nice), most others take the tram or walk (it is decidedly uncool to be dropped off by the parents when everybody else arrives at school on their own). Timings for 3 miles: Bicycle 15 min Tram 15 min plus 3 min walk to/from the stop Car 10-15 min plus find some parking With the City Center location, even the few kids old enough to drive would not be willing to pay more than €10.- per school day https://www.park-one.com/standorte/heidelberg/ for parking ;-) |
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School kids rarely ride bicycle anymore, why?
Am 19.02.2020 um 23:46 schrieb John B.:
Or to put it another way, did anyone ever take their girlfriend to the Junior Prom... on a bicycle? My answer at that age would be 1) what is a girl-friend? 2) What is a junior-prom? |
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School kids rarely ride bicycle anymore, why?
On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 13:52:32 +0100, Rolf Mantel
wrote: Am 19.02.2020 um 23:46 schrieb John B.: Or to put it another way, did anyone ever take their girlfriend to the Junior Prom... on a bicycle? My answer at that age would be 1) what is a girl-friend? 2) What is a junior-prom? You rather prove my point... that only children ride bicycles and as soon as possible they graduate to an internal combustion powered device :-) -- cheers, John B. |
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School kids rarely ride bicycle anymore, why?
On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 1:16:39 AM UTC+1, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On Monday, February 17, 2020 at 3:42:34 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Sunday, February 16, 2020 at 4:57:07 PM UTC-6, Joerg wrote: When I grew up at least half the high school students living more than walking distance away commuted by bicycle. So did I and my siblings. -- Regards, Joerg You and I must have grown up in different times and places. Approximately 30-40 years ago when I was in elementary school (K-6), junior high (7-8-9), and high school (10-11-12), I was the ONLY kid who rode a bicycle to school. My elementary had 150 kids, junior high 400, high school 1200. We had two large parking lots for cars at my high school. Both completely filled. Elementary and junior had bike racks outside. High school did not. Elementary and junior were not exactly in residential areas. But the high school was surrounded by houses where kids lived. This was 30-35-40 years ago. So well before Frank's "danger, danger, danger" mantra began to frighten bicyclists. So I don't know why I was the ONLY kid who rode a bicycle to school. I did know of one other kid who rode bicycles recreationally like me. My school days were a generation earlier. When we lived within a mile of the school, we walked there and back, and friend from school would walk to visit us. We rode bikes around the neighborhood, but we seldom used them for transportation, except to a store within a couple blocks. Later, we moved four or five miles out into a new suburban development. There, my friends and I rode absolutely every day it was warm enough. And that included to nearby stores, the library, etc. And I rode even in dead of winter to deliver a large newspaper route. But again, never to school. That could have been out of concerns for traffic, but it could also have been fashion, in the broadest sense. Nobody did it because, well, nobody did it! All this was in the era of heavy coaster brake bikes. Bikes were for kids. - Frank Krygowski I got my drivers licence when I was in the army at 23-24 year old and I could pay for it myself. My parents could not afford to pay for driving lessons for me and my brothers. So up to 24 years old I did everything by bike and I was not an exception in my neighborhood. After I could afford a car I only cycle for fun. Lou |
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On Friday, February 21, 2020 at 5:10:56 AM UTC-8, wrote:
On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 1:16:39 AM UTC+1, Frank Krygowski wrote: On Monday, February 17, 2020 at 3:42:34 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Sunday, February 16, 2020 at 4:57:07 PM UTC-6, Joerg wrote: When I grew up at least half the high school students living more than walking distance away commuted by bicycle. So did I and my siblings.. -- Regards, Joerg You and I must have grown up in different times and places. Approximately 30-40 years ago when I was in elementary school (K-6), junior high (7-8-9), and high school (10-11-12), I was the ONLY kid who rode a bicycle to school. My elementary had 150 kids, junior high 400, high school 1200. We had two large parking lots for cars at my high school. Both completely filled. Elementary and junior had bike racks outside. High school did not. Elementary and junior were not exactly in residential areas. But the high school was surrounded by houses where kids lived. This was 30-35-40 years ago. So well before Frank's "danger, danger, danger" mantra began to frighten bicyclists. So I don't know why I was the ONLY kid who rode a bicycle to school. I did know of one other kid who rode bicycles recreationally like me. My school days were a generation earlier. When we lived within a mile of the school, we walked there and back, and friend from school would walk to visit us. We rode bikes around the neighborhood, but we seldom used them for transportation, except to a store within a couple blocks. Later, we moved four or five miles out into a new suburban development. There, my friends and I rode absolutely every day it was warm enough. And that included to nearby stores, the library, etc. And I rode even in dead of winter to deliver a large newspaper route. But again, never to school. That could have been out of concerns for traffic, but it could also have been fashion, in the broadest sense. Nobody did it because, well, nobody did it! All this was in the era of heavy coaster brake bikes. Bikes were for kids. - Frank Krygowski I got my drivers licence when I was in the army at 23-24 year old and I could pay for it myself. My parents could not afford to pay for driving lessons for me and my brothers. So up to 24 years old I did everything by bike and I was not an exception in my neighborhood. After I could afford a car I only cycle for fun. Lou I worked on a car lot repairing cars from the time I was 14. When I got 15 1/2 years old and could get a learners permit the Car Lot owner gave me a 1951 Pontiac that he couldn't sell. That was the first payment I got from him. I drove that thing until I got out of the Air Force and my father gave me a 1954 Oldsmobile. |
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On 2020-02-20 14:51, John B. wrote:
On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 13:52:32 +0100, Rolf Mantel wrote: Am 19.02.2020 um 23:46 schrieb John B.: Or to put it another way, did anyone ever take their girlfriend to the Junior Prom... on a bicycle? My answer at that age would be 1) what is a girl-friend? 2) What is a junior-prom? You rather prove my point... that only children ride bicycles and as soon as possible they graduate to an internal combustion powered device :-) Then when they are mid-life and the scales show a profound trend towards morbid obesity, the bicycle comes back out from the garage rafters. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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