LANCE ARMSTRONG: When Will YOU Admit Cheating?

With BJARNE RIIS's admission that he used dope to win the1996 Tour de
France, isn't it WAY past time that Armstrong admitted:

1) Yes, he, too, used performance-enhancing drugs to win those 7
TDFs.

2) The made-up bogus story about overcoming, near-death, grave multi-
CANCERS, of which no one else has come forth to claim survival.

FACE IT deluded sports fans, America's obsession with celebrity and
"heros" is and has always been behind this "legend."

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"'96 Tour de France Winner Riis Admits Using EPO, Other Drugs"

The Washington Post
Sports
Saturday, May 26, 2007; E02


Bjarne Riis became the first Tour de France winner to admit using
performance-enhancing drugs to win the sport's premier race, further
eroding cycling's credibility after a series of doping confessions.

His admission yesterday means the top three finishers in the 1996 Tour
all have been linked to doping -- and two have admitted cheating.

The retired Dane said he used the blood-booster EPO from 1993 to 1998,
including during his 1996 Tour victory, confirming years of
speculation that he benefited from banned substances. He also admitted
taking cortisone and human growth hormone, but didn't say when.

"I have taken doping. I have taken EPO," Riis said at a televised news
conference. "I have made errors and I would like to apologize."

EPO -- or erythropoietin -- is a synthetic hormone that stimulates the
production of oxygen-carrying red blood cells.

Riis said he no longer considered himself a worthy winner of the Tour,
and indicated he would be willing to give back the title.

"My jersey is at home in a cardboard box," said Riis, now manager of
the Danish team CSC. "They are welcome to come and get it. I have my
memories for myself."

Cycling's governing body said even though time limits for sanctioning
Riis have expired, it "urges the former rider to return his yellow
jersey, the symbol of his victory."

Tour director Christian Prudhomme used even stronger words: "Bjarne
Riis said himself that he did not deserve to have won the Tour in 1996
because he cheated. I think the same thing, because he has soiled the
yellow jersey," Prudhomme told the Associated Press when reached by
telephone. "Seeing as he did not deserve to win, does he deserve to
lead a major cycling team?"

-- From News Services

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...052500647.html

On May 26, 7:53 am, Kyle Schwitters wrote:
With BJARNE RIIS's admission that he used dope to win the1996 Tour de
France, isn't it WAY past time that Armstrong admitted:

1) Yes, he, too, used performance-enhancing drugs to win those 7
TDFs.

2) The made-up bogus story about overcoming, near-death, grave multi-
CANCERS, of which no one else has come forth to claim survival.

FACE IT deluded sports fans, America's obsession with celebrity and
"heros" is and has always been behind this "legend."

Riiiiight. Elective brain surgery and orchidectomy. Of course, it's
obvious, now that you've said it. Testicular cancer as a cry for
help.

Will the POTM moderator accept the OP's post as the inaugural entry in
a new POTM classification?
I'm thinking a classification something like: POTM - From Inside Your
Own Asshole.
POTM-FIYOA

R

On 26 May, 14:30, RicodJour wrote:
On May 26, 7:53 am, Kyle Schwitters wrote:

With BJARNE RIIS's admission that he used dope to win the1996 Tour de
France, isn't it WAY past time that Armstrong admitted:

1) Yes, he, too, used performance-enhancing drugs to win those 7
TDFs.

2) The made-up bogus story about overcoming, near-death, grave multi-
CANCERS, of which no one else has come forth to claim survival.

FACE IT deluded sports fans, America's obsession with celebrity and
"heros" is and has always been behind this "legend."

Riiiiight. Elective brain surgery and orchidectomy. Of course, it's
obvious, now that you've said it. Testicular cancer as a cry for
help.

Will the POTM moderator accept the OP's post as the inaugural entry in
a new POTM classification?
I'm thinking a classification something like: POTM - From Inside Your
Own Asshole.
POTM-FIYOA

R

but they all use drugs, so its a fair race.

On May 26, 4:53 am, Kyle Schwitters wrote:

France, isn't it WAY past time that Armstrong admitted:


Americans don't cheat!!!!

We win!!!!!!!!

USA!!! USA!!! USA!!!

mange

Kyle Schwitters wrote:
With BJARNE RIIS's admission that he used dope to win the1996 Tour de
France, isn't it WAY past time that Armstrong admitted:

He doesn't have to admit it, he chated, full stop. The urine test is
there to prove it.

On Sat, 26 May 2007 23:54:17 +0200, "John of Aix"
wrote:

Kyle Schwitters wrote:
With BJARNE RIIS's admission that he used dope to win the1996 Tour de
France, isn't it WAY past time that Armstrong admitted:

He doesn't have to admit it, he chated, full stop. The urine test is
there to prove it.

The research experiment that was performed to see what can be measured in last
century's stale, frozen ****? The one that was never supposed to have anything
to do with any rider by name, and in which only one name was matched to anything
and then the result leaked contrary to the rules that were already being broken
by a lab of known sloppy procedure that finds far more positive results than
other labs of known sound procedure? That urine test?

Gotta do better than that.

See, maybe the guy was doped to the gills, but your blatantly dishonest test
from a discredited lab isn't gonna prove it.

Ron

"RonSonic" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 26 May 2007 23:54:17 +0200, "John of Aix"

wrote:

Kyle Schwitters wrote:
With BJARNE RIIS's admission that he used dope to win the1996 Tour de
France, isn't it WAY past time that Armstrong admitted:

He doesn't have to admit it, he chated, full stop. The urine test is
there to prove it.

The research experiment that was performed to see what can be measured in
last
century's stale, frozen ****? The one that was never supposed to have
anything
to do with any rider by name, and in which only one name was matched to
anything
and then the result leaked contrary to the rules that were already being
broken
by a lab of known sloppy procedure that finds far more positive results
than
other labs of known sound procedure? That urine test?

Gotta do better than that.

See, maybe the guy was doped to the gills, but your blatantly dishonest
test
from a discredited lab isn't gonna prove it.

Ron

As the director of the WADA accredited lab in Montreal pointed out, if there
were no EPO in the urine, the test would not have found any. The fact that
Armstrong never replied to the offer of the French minister for sport to
have the B samples analyzed again in his presence, is telling. EPO WAS
found in Armstrong's urine from 1999. Big surprise.

On Sat, 26 May 2007 22:46:45 GMT, "B. Lafferty"
wrote:


"RonSonic" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 26 May 2007 23:54:17 +0200, "John of Aix"

wrote:

Kyle Schwitters wrote:
With BJARNE RIIS's admission that he used dope to win the1996 Tour de
France, isn't it WAY past time that Armstrong admitted:

He doesn't have to admit it, he chated, full stop. The urine test is
there to prove it.

The research experiment that was performed to see what can be measured in
last
century's stale, frozen ****? The one that was never supposed to have
anything
to do with any rider by name, and in which only one name was matched to
anything
and then the result leaked contrary to the rules that were already being
broken
by a lab of known sloppy procedure that finds far more positive results
than
other labs of known sound procedure? That urine test?

Gotta do better than that.

See, maybe the guy was doped to the gills, but your blatantly dishonest
test
from a discredited lab isn't gonna prove it.

Ron

As the director of the WADA accredited lab in Montreal pointed out, if there
were no EPO in the urine, the test would not have found any. The fact that
Armstrong never replied to the offer of the French minister for sport to
have the B samples analyzed again in his presence, is telling. EPO WAS
found in Armstrong's urine from 1999. Big surprise.

It wasn't a properly organized test. Besides, that was the B sample.

It'd be stupid to be surpized by EPO use in the peloton, I'll give you that. But
if you really want a charge to stick you gotta do better than pulling a bottle
from somewhere claiming it belonged to a guy and then having a known bent lab
leak results.

It's no more valid than if they declared me positive.

Ron

2) The made-up bogus story about overcoming, near-death, grave multi-
CANCERS, of which no one else has come forth to claim survival.

Absolute bull****.
I have had, and survived the exact same cancer as Lance Armstrong.
My cancer had advanced to just a little less than his before his was discovoured.I however did not have the VERY invasive chemo that Lance did.
I have ridden ever since and I also lost a lot of power and as yet cannot spin like he can. I never could. I am also over 60 years of age and find those that rubbish Lance's cancer and his recovery to be totally obnoxious, ill informed twerps who have no idea at all about the cancers thay post about.
I do not know if he doped or not, but consider this:
Even if he did dope, he STILL overcame a near death illness, recovered and went on to beat ALL the over performing dopers who had never been ill!!
It STILL Leaves Lance as one of the greatest cyclists the world has seen for decades.
And finally, No I do notlike Lance, his lifestyle, or his riding style.
Ro

In article pN26i.1999$eO5.1035@trndny08,
"B. Lafferty" wrote:

"RonSonic" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 26 May 2007 23:54:17 +0200, "John of Aix"

wrote:

Kyle Schwitters wrote:
With BJARNE RIIS's admission that he used dope to win the1996 Tour de
France, isn't it WAY past time that Armstrong admitted:

He doesn't have to admit it, he chated, full stop. The urine test is
there to prove it.

The research experiment that was performed to see what can be measured in
last
century's stale, frozen ****? The one that was never supposed to have
anything
to do with any rider by name, and in which only one name was matched to
anything
and then the result leaked contrary to the rules that were already being
broken
by a lab of known sloppy procedure that finds far more positive results
than
other labs of known sound procedure? That urine test?

Gotta do better than that.

See, maybe the guy was doped to the gills, but your blatantly dishonest
test
from a discredited lab isn't gonna prove it.

Ron

As the director of the WADA accredited lab in Montreal pointed out, if there
were no EPO in the urine, the test would not have found any. The fact that
Armstrong never replied to the offer of the French minister for sport to
have the B samples analyzed again in his presence, is telling. EPO WAS
found in Armstrong's urine from 1999. Big surprise.

Here's the deal, Brian: if I was accused of doing something horrible,
told that there was evidence which, while pointing to my guilt, could
not be used to bring any sanction against me, and invited to watch while
a confirmatory test was done, what would you, as my legal counsel,
advise me to do?

Innocent or guilty, you know the answer is to refuse. If you want a
graceful answer, you have your PR person say "Mr. Cousineau will not
dignify these proceedings with a response."

And just so.

--
Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos