Wheels and tires

On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 19:02:16 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 3/26/2020 3:28 PM, Tim McNamara wrote:
On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 02:03:30 -0000 (UTC), news18
wrote:

This was in the recent online offerings;
https://arstechnica.com/science/2020...t-too-much-to-
ask-
for-an-actual-plan/

I say that you are a very nasty journalist who wants Donald Trump to
fail in the next election!

Expect the President and his Cabinet to do their jobs and save the
lives of Americans? What are you, a socialist? Save the money first,
it can't take care of itself unlike people.


I see no humor in the many working people with whom I associate who are
desperate. April rent is due...

Unfortunately there are always peole who will willingy live life on the
knife edge. Personally, lack of prior proper plannng on their part does
not constitrute an emergency on my part.

We've just been told of a related couple who will no tw have to move back
home in a desperate gamble to save money to continue to pay off the
negatively geared mortgages on all their rented properties because his
pay has been slashed 75% and there is a good chance of having now-
unemployed tennants default. I probably am not popular as I warned them
of this about a yer ago as a generally unwise way to do things.


Wrecking a nation is hardly the best way to save lives,

That appears the choice presented by covid-19 unless you think the murder
of many people is the better way. That will really wreck the economy.
Dead peole can not buy bicycle and sercices, but they may be future
customers if there are sufficent medical faciities to see them through
and hopefuly they adaopt a healther lifestyle afterwards.

You cannot name
a prior example that turned out well - it's never been done.
Sothe survival of country durg war time doesn't count?

Now we're in midair after a huge dangerous leap.

The dangerous leap was in not doing anything when the problem became
known all those months ago. No your nation is forced to exteme masures to
compensate for the blaise' dissmissal and lack of earl action.

Economies always recover, especially if there is prior preparation. What
will not recover is activities that were marginal in the first place.

On 3/26/2020 8:02 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/26/2020 3:28 PM, Tim McNamara wrote:
On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 02:03:30 -0000 (UTC), news18
wrote:

This was in the recent online offerings;
https://arstechnica.com/science/2020...o-much-to-ask-

for-an-actual-plan/

I say that you are a very nasty journalist who wants Donald Trump to
fail in the next election!

Expect the President and his Cabinet to do their jobs and save the lives
of Americans?Â* What are you, a socialist?Â* Save the money first, it
can't take care of itself unlike people.


I see no humor in the many working people with whom I associate who are
desperate. April rent is due...

Wrecking a nation is hardly the best way to save lives, You cannot name
a prior example that turned out well - it's never been done. Now we're
in midair after a huge dangerous leap.

We're in midair after being told it's fine to chop the pandemic response
team; that there are only a few U.S. cases; that this would end quickly;
that warm weather would stop its spread; that nobody knew this would be
a problem; that we don't need to use tests available through other
agencies; that anybody who needs a test can get a test... etc.

But it's OK. It will be over by Easter, right?

--
- Frank Krygowski

On 3/26/2020 7:48 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Thursday, March 26, 2020 at 4:12:48 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 3/26/2020 6:43 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Thursday, March 26, 2020 at 1:28:56 PM UTC-7, Tim McNamara wrote:
On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 02:03:30 -0000 (UTC), news18
wrote:

This was in the recent online offerings;
https://arstechnica.com/science/2020...o-much-to-ask-
for-an-actual-plan/

I say that you are a very nasty journalist who wants Donald Trump to
fail in the next election!

Expect the President and his Cabinet to do their jobs and save the lives
of Americans? What are you, a socialist? Save the money first, it
can't take care of itself unlike people.

Tell us all what the President is going to do against a disease. This ought to be interesting to listen to a moron run on about just how ignorant about the world around him he is.

Many public health professionals can tell you what the president
_should_ have done against a disease. It's hardly a secret.


--
- Frank Krygowski

It isn't a secret but you don't know what it is?

Wrong.


--
- Frank Krygowski

On Thursday, March 26, 2020 at 6:15:18 PM UTC-7, news18 wrote:
On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 19:02:16 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 3/26/2020 3:28 PM, Tim McNamara wrote:
On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 02:03:30 -0000 (UTC), news18
wrote:

This was in the recent online offerings;
https://arstechnica.com/science/2020...t-too-much-to-
ask-
for-an-actual-plan/

I say that you are a very nasty journalist who wants Donald Trump to
fail in the next election!

Expect the President and his Cabinet to do their jobs and save the
lives of Americans? What are you, a socialist? Save the money first,
it can't take care of itself unlike people.


I see no humor in the many working people with whom I associate who are
desperate. April rent is due...

Unfortunately there are always peole who will willingy live life on the
knife edge. Personally, lack of prior proper plannng on their part does
not constitrute an emergency on my part.

We've just been told of a related couple who will no tw have to move back
home in a desperate gamble to save money to continue to pay off the
negatively geared mortgages on all their rented properties because his
pay has been slashed 75% and there is a good chance of having now-
unemployed tennants default. I probably am not popular as I warned them
of this about a yer ago as a generally unwise way to do things.

Tenant defaults are a huge problem with multi-family, and one that me and my brothers are facing right now on several leveraged properties. We'll probably get $1M or so in financing to keep the properties afloat until rents stabilize. This is a Black Swan event for a lot of businesses -- and not because of poor planning. Every business is leveraged -- a retail business with no income will burn through even robust savings if it has to pay months of rent on unproductive space, and there is no rent holiday for commercial tenants.

The response to COVID-19 has caused wages to plummet and may cause at least some service businesses to disappear. Maybe that's needed to protect the population and maybe not. Regardless of whether it is the right choice, one cannot deny the serious consequences of shutting down the economy and the effect on ordinary wage-earners and well-run small businesses. I think the public health should prevail, but that doesn't mean we just ignore the economy, particularly since there are health consequences of being poor.

-- Jay Beattie.

On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 21:20:32 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 3/26/2020 8:02 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/26/2020 3:28 PM, Tim McNamara wrote:
On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 02:03:30 -0000 (UTC), news18
wrote:

This was in the recent online offerings;
https://arstechnica.com/science/2020...o-much-to-ask-

for-an-actual-plan/

I say that you are a very nasty journalist who wants Donald Trump to
fail in the next election!

Expect the President and his Cabinet to do their jobs and save the lives
of Americans?* What are you, a socialist?* Save the money first, it
can't take care of itself unlike people.


I see no humor in the many working people with whom I associate who are
desperate. April rent is due...

Wrecking a nation is hardly the best way to save lives, You cannot name
a prior example that turned out well - it's never been done. Now we're
in midair after a huge dangerous leap.

We're in midair after being told it's fine to chop the pandemic response
team; that there are only a few U.S. cases; that this would end quickly;
that warm weather would stop its spread; that nobody knew this would be
a problem; that we don't need to use tests available through other
agencies; that anybody who needs a test can get a test... etc.

But it's OK. It will be over by Easter, right?

And the U.S. has now surpassed all other countries with 82,547
reported cases and 14,336 new cases since yesterday.
That is a 21% increase from the "yesterday" figures of 68,211.

Thailand which has a very aggressive prevention program with all
stores other than food and medicines closed, borders closed to all
foreigners, police check points throughout the country to restrict
travel, all crowded venues closed, and even temperature checks to
enter many stores, still has an increase of 11% since yesterday.
--
cheers,

John B.

On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 08:58:50 -0500, AMuzi wrote:


With about 60 million Italians, of whom about 7,000 deaths are
attributed to the Chinese Bioweapon virus,

So you do not beleive the infrmation that shows this to be fake news.
Have we found our third stooge.

https://www.wired.com/story/opinion-...onavirus-myth-
went-viral/

On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 19:04:03 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 3/26/2020 5:47 PM, John B. wrote:

Think Tibet, think Tiananmen Square , think Uighur Muslims.


It's a new age. Every Hong Kong citizen would be livestreaming a
Tiananmen-like event.

So what. Mobile phones do not stop tanks.

On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 20:09:27 +0000, Ralph Barone wrote:


I wonder how fast Mexico and Canada can build border walls :-(

Nope, they still want Trump to buld it.
https://www.theshovel.com.au/2020/03...-hurry-up-and-
build-the-****ing-wall/

tOn Thu, 26 Mar 2020 20:10:31 -0500, AMuzi
wrote:

On 3/26/2020 7:40 PM, John B. wrote:
On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 20:09:24 +0000 (UTC), Ralph Barone
wrote:

Radey Shouman wrote:
Ralph Barone writes:

John B. wrote:
On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 19:26:32 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 3/25/2020 12:43 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:

[snip on-topic bicycle stuff]

On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 3:18:09 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:

I can't figure out what Newsome thinks he's doing saying that a couple
of weeks from now isn't long enough to keep businesses shut down. Its
been two weeks already and in another couple of weeks all of the
restaurants, the largest business sector, will be dead.


If your auntie was Nancy Pelosi, you could try your hand at
being Governor too!

Given that the virus "new case" rate in the U.S. is now the highest in
the world (as of March 26, 2020, 00:12 GMT) the question of whether
the restaurants go out of business because of a shutdown or whether
they go out of business because their customers catch the virus is
probably immaterial.
--
cheers,

John B.

It’s a tough call. Either way people are going to be uncomfortable or die,
but my guesses are with the shutdown being the better choice. Considering
that pandemics are just compound interest with a very high interest rate
and a very short compounding period (take out a loan at 250% interest per
week and tell me how that works out for you), I’m surprised at the lack of
serious response from the guy running things south of 49.

Interesting analogy. Going a bit further, it seems immunity and
bankruptcy are two sides of the same coin, while death works the same
for both compounded debts and pandemic illness. Looks like we elected
an experience-qualified guy after all.


I guess, except his “go-to” move is declaring bankruptcy and letting the
other people deal with the mess.

So, if you’re paying 250% a week interest on a loan, when is a good time to
start selling stuff on Craigslist for a two week repayment program? The
correct answer is As Soon As You Borrowed The Money. The second best answer
is Right ****ing Now!

Perhaps an even better solution is "don't borrow money at 250% a
week". That would be, 1100% over one year :-)
--
cheers,

John B.


Mr Slocumb-
You have many skills but this isn't one of them.
Taking a $100 loan at 250% per week for 52 weeks on a
regular amortization table sums to:

$1 397 688 109 531 440 000 000 000 000 000.00

Compound interest is a powerful thing, underestimated by
borrowers in every era, in every place.

Which demonstrates that, at least for me, my policy of never borrowing
money is the correct one :-)

But are you sure? I just calculated it and I get
$49,303,806,576,313,200,000,000.00 :-)

--
cheers,

John B.

Ralph Barone writes:

AMuzi wrote:
On 3/26/2020 11:20 AM, Sepp Ruf wrote:
AMuzi wrote:
On 3/25/2020 7:40 PM, John B. wrote:

Given that the virus "new case" rate in the U.S. is now the highest in
the world (as of March 26, 2020, 00:12 GMT) the question of whether
the restaurants go out of business because of a shutdown or whether
they go out of business because their customers catch the virus is
probably immaterial.

With about 60 million Italians, of whom about 7,000 deaths
are attributed to the Chinese Bioweapon virus, an equivalent
proportion of USAians would be just under 40,000 dead. As
of today it's roughly 1,000. A thousand dead people is a
real problem (to them, anyway) but it's not of the scale
Italy has suffered.

(I avoid repeating any of the lying lies spewed by the
Chinese propaganda machine. Make a guess yourself.)

Try F@løøn 6Øng's theepochtimes.com for China news.

Hear, hear, in Chicago lawyer geography, "outside is not for 5Ks"...
https://www.theepochtimes.com/chicago-officials-threaten-arrests-over-runs-bike-rides-basketball-amid-covid-19-pandemic_3286675.html
Chicago mayor Lori Lightfoot heavy-handedly threatens commuters with death
by prison infection: "Outside is for a brief respite, not for 5Ks. I can’t
emphasize enough that we abide [by] the rules."

Crook County reasoning, probably: When trails are fully closed, it's the
outlaws who will be safest from full trails...
https://chicago.suntimes.com/coronavirus/2020/3/26/21195127/latest-coronavirus-news-for-march-26-2020-live-updates


Agreed, Epoch Times is a wonderful resource. If not for them
we would know nothing of China.
https://www.ejinsight.com/eji/articl...er-hk-autonomy

Meanwhile here's a vote of confidence on the near futu

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...virus-spreads/

http://www.rfi.fr/en/americas/202003...ears-and-chaos

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/p...being-rationed



I wonder how fast Mexico and Canada can build border walls :-(

Mexicans are protesting in Nogales about untested yanquis crossing the
border:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52053656