Rans Rocket?

"Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" wrote in message
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Edward Dolan wrote:
"Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" wrote in message
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Riding a RANS Rocket is more fun than watching the Canadiens play
hockey ...
[,,,]

Do only the Canadiens play hockey or do not also the Canadians play
hockey?

See http://www.canadiens.com/ for the website of "Le Habs". In this
case "Canadiens" is the proper name of an organization.

Of course, I expect Mr. Ed is more familiar with "horse hockey".

The one sure way to get a response out of Mr. Sherman is to trip him up on
his use of the language. Canadien is of course the French for Canadian and
it will normally refer to the French Canadians of the Province of Quebec.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Tom Sherman - (In Transition)
Post Free or Die!

PS. I like the "Post Free or Die" bit. It is a nice play on the "Live Free
or Die", the New Hampshire state motto.

Richard Greenberg wrote:
Hi. You mentioned that you think the Kool Stop Salmon brake pads are a good
upgrade for the Rocket.

"http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/brakeshoes.html

Are the pads found at the link above the ones you would recommend for the
Rocket as opposed to any of the other Kool Stop choices? Did you mount them
with some toe-in on your Rocket, or parallel to the rims?

I would get the "Kool Stop BMX Salmon" for a RANS Rocket since they
have the proper curvature to fit ISO 406-mm rims. [1]. The "salmon"
colored pads have the Scott-Mathauser compound (containing iron oxide)
which is superior to the compound used in black and red Kool Stop pads.

I toe the brakes in using the thickness of the commonly available
copper-plated zinc discs with a portrait of Mr. Lincoln on them as a
guide. You can get these discs at any US bank for $0.01/each.

[1] These pads were not available when I exchanged pads on my Rocket,
so I have the "Kool Stop Thinline Threaded" pads instead.

--
Tom Sherman - (In Transition)
Post Free or Die!

Thanks for all the feedback so far!

Are the brakes that bad that they need to be replaced? I guess I would
find out by a trial, eh?

How about the other components, such as derailers, shifters and pedals?
Are they adequate for a first timer? My current MTB has Shimano Deore LX
derailers with Gripshift shifters that have held up quite well for about 14
years. How would the Rocket's components measure up to these?

Also, I use toe clips on my MTB and wear regular shoes. Is this possible
to do on a 'bent or is there a preferred pedal system?

Thanks again,

Larry

GoHabsGo wrote:
Thanks for all the feedback so far!

Are the brakes that bad that they need to be replaced? I guess I would
find out by a trial, eh?

The brakes do not need to be replaced, just the pads. Kool Stop Scott
Mathauser compound (salmon color only) pads do not accumulate embedded
pieces of grit that will gouge the braking track on the rim the way
almost all other brake pads will. A replacement rim and relacing by a
competent wheel builder will typically cost $50+ per wheel. In
addition, braking power in the rain is much better with the "salmon"
pads compared to normal compound pads.

How about the other components, such as derailers, shifters and pedals?
Are they adequate for a first timer? My current MTB has Shimano Deore LX
derailers with Gripshift shifters that have held up quite well for about 14
years. How would the Rocket's components measure up to these?

The stock components on the RANS Rocket will work well enough (except
for the brake pads and pedals) I would not bother to upgrade them until
they wear out.

Also, I use toe clips on my MTB and wear regular shoes. Is this possible
to do on a 'bent or is there a preferred pedal system?...

Any bike with the pedals higher than the seat (e.g. RANS Rocket) needs
some type of foot retention system for anything but short rides.

--
Tom Sherman - (In Transition)
Post Free or Die!

Edward Dolan wrote:
"Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" wrote in message
oups.com...

Edward Dolan wrote:
"Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" wrote in message
oups.com...
[...]
Riding a RANS Rocket is more fun than watching the Canadiens play
hockey ...
[,,,]

Do only the Canadiens play hockey or do not also the Canadians play
hockey?

See http://www.canadiens.com/ for the website of "Le Habs". In this
case "Canadiens" is the proper name of an organization.

Of course, I expect Mr. Ed is more familiar with "horse hockey".

The one sure way to get a response out of Mr. Sherman is to trip him up on
his use of the language. Canadien is of course the French for Canadian and
it will normally refer to the French Canadians of the Province of Quebec.

Yo Eddie,

Canadiens (sic) is the proper name of the Montreal NHL franchise, which
has the nickname "Le Habs". Since the original poster uses the display
name of "GoHabsGo", my comparison was naturally to the Canadiens (sic)
NHL hockey team. Duh!

--
Tom Sherman - (In Transition)
Post Free or Die!

"Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" wrote in message
oups.com...
[...]
The one sure way to get a response out of Mr. Sherman is to trip him up
on
his use of the language. Canadien is of course the French for Canadian
and
it will normally refer to the French Canadians of the Province of Quebec.

Yo Eddie,

Canadiens (sic) is the proper name of the Montreal NHL franchise, which
has the nickname "Le Habs". Since the original poster uses the display
name of "GoHabsGo", my comparison was naturally to the Canadiens (sic)
NHL hockey team. Duh!

No, here is what you wrote:

"Riding a RANS Rocket is more fun than watching the Canadiens play
hockey. You will not find a more fun bike to ride unless you happen to
find a used Earth Cycles Sunset Lowracer [TM] for sale."

You did not reference anything other than hockey. No mention of Montreal or
the NHL. Others can be excused this kind of sloppiness, but we expect more
of someone who writes legal briefs for engineering firms where every i has
to be dotted and every t has to be crossed. Canadien and Canadian belong to
two different languages. Since you were writing English for English readers,
we expect you to be consistent in the use of the language and not to be
jumping back and forth as suits your fancy.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Edward Dolan aka Mr. Ed wrote:
"Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" wrote in message
oups.com...
[...]
The one sure way to get a response out of Mr. Sherman is to trip him up
on
his use of the language. Canadien is of course the French for Canadian
and
it will normally refer to the French Canadians of the Province of Quebec.

Yo Eddie,

Canadiens (sic) is the proper name of the Montreal NHL franchise, which
has the nickname "Le Habs". Since the original poster uses the display
name of "GoHabsGo", my comparison was naturally to the Canadiens (sic)
NHL hockey team. Duh!

No, here is what you wrote:

"Riding a RANS Rocket is more fun than watching the Canadiens play
hockey. You will not find a more fun bike to ride unless you happen to
find a used Earth Cycles Sunset Lowracer [TM] for sale."

You did not reference anything other than hockey. No mention of Montreal or
the NHL. Others can be excused this kind of sloppiness, but we expect more
of someone who writes legal briefs for engineering firms where every i has
to be dotted and every t has to be crossed. Canadien and Canadian belong to
two different languages. Since you were writing English for English readers,
we expect you to be consistent in the use of the language and not to be
jumping back and forth as suits your fancy.

Context Eddie, context!

--
Tom Sherman - (In Transition)
Post Free or Die!

I ride a paved but rough (in some sections) trail in the Chicago area (the
North Branch trail) and the addition of the RST suspension fork to my Rocket
has made an unbelievable difference. Since I added the new fork the ride on
my Rocket is much smoother than my LWB Stratus. Jordan at RANS agreed that
almost any 20 x 20 should have suspension.

"GoHabsGo" wrote in message
. 244.170...
Hi all,

I've lurked here for quite some time and hope to get some feedback from
you pros about the RANS Rocket. I am considering this as my first 'bent
sometime early this spring probably around April.

When do the new models become available?

Does anyone know if the newer Rockets will be much different than last
year's model?

What are the most useful upgrades on a new Rocket, or is that something
that should only be considered after riding for a while?

What is a good price for a Rocket?

Are there any other brands you would recommend over the Rocket that would
be in the same price range?

I humbly ask for you feedback if you have time.

Thanks,

Larry

In all fairness I should say "Jordan at RANS agreed that the ride of almost
any 20 x 20 would be improved by the addition of a suspension fork."



"Bob Hill" wrote in message
...
I ride a paved but rough (in some sections) trail in the Chicago area (the
North Branch trail) and the addition of the RST suspension fork to my
Rocket has made an unbelievable difference. Since I added the new fork the
ride on my Rocket is much smoother than my LWB Stratus. Jordan at RANS
agreed that almost any 20 x 20 should have suspension.

"GoHabsGo" wrote in message
. 244.170...
Hi all,

I've lurked here for quite some time and hope to get some feedback from
you pros about the RANS Rocket. I am considering this as my first 'bent
sometime early this spring probably around April.

When do the new models become available?

Does anyone know if the newer Rockets will be much different than last
year's model?

What are the most useful upgrades on a new Rocket, or is that something
that should only be considered after riding for a while?

What is a good price for a Rocket?

Are there any other brands you would recommend over the Rocket that would
be in the same price range?

I humbly ask for you feedback if you have time.

Thanks,

Larry