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On 09/14/2012 11:23 PM, Joy Beeson wrote:
On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 16:39:15 -0700, "Kerry Montgomery" wrote: Frank Krygowski, Your original statement: "I've never used them, so they can't be essential." No indication, obvious or otherwise, that you were referring to only yourself. Obviously, a jersey with three pockets in back and two in front is essential for bicycle riding. I'd collapse like a marionette with cut strings if I couldn't reach into my right front pocket for a starlight mint at appropriate intervals. NOTHING is essential for riding a bike, except two wheels -- and that's only because you have to call it riding a unicycle when you have only one, and walking if you haven't any. +1. Well two wheels and your butt somewhere on the contraption. Time to be essential... |
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On 09/15/2012 04:04 PM, Dan O wrote:
On Sep 15, 12:38 pm, Jay Beattie wrote: On Sep 15, 9:22 am, Frank Krygowski wrote: Jay Beattie wrote: On Sep 14, 6:13 pm, Phil W wrote: If people have a medical need for shoe covers, that for some inexplicable reason isn't equally well served by boots and socks, then it is a medical need, not a cycling need. I have a much lower threshold for essential -- which for me is defined as "necessary to ride without being totally miserable." Why should bicycling be miserable?Sometimes, chamois cream or insoles or any number of things can be essential for certain riders. Wow. I just tried to recall an incident when I was miserable on a bike. I came up with only one: I was lost in a foreign city, trying to find our hotel room where my wife was waiting and worried about me, riding in a waterfall-like rainstorm with no rain gear at all. But riding without shoe covers, insoles or chamois cream??? Sheesh. I've literally _never_ heard anyone else describe that as misery. Read this:http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0...ag=freewhfranc... Mark Beaumont was seriously miserable when he ran out of chamois cream. Merckx was side-lined by saddle sores. Hot foot at mile 90 or mile 190 because of poor metatarsal support -- descending in driving rain at near freezing temperatures with no shoe covers and frozen feet. I can think of all kinds of miserable that can be avoided. I didn't really mean really facetious - even semi. Chamois cream could be absolutely essential. (I am thankful that it hasn't been for me yet.) Don't know about essential but it comes in handy for long rides. Like Joy said, the only thing essential for cycling is two wheels. But why not be more comfortable when it's relatively simple? |
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On Sep 16, 9:09*pm, Frank Krygowski
wrote: James wrote: On 17/09/12 09:29, Sir Ridesalot wrote: I think it's a shame when bicyle shop employees don't want to take the time to educate a new bicyclist to the differences amongst different types of bicycles. Because of that many new bicyclists end up with bicycles totally unsuited for the type of riding they do. Why would a shop keep stock of many more non road racing bikes than road racing bikes, if road racing bikes was what they wanted to sell? The "what they want to sell" is key. *A shop owner trying to clear out stock, or an employee working on commission, may be highly motivated to sell an expensive racing bike. *When my (now former) paper boy got taken... um, convinced to buy a racing bike, I assumed that's what happened. *When my elderly friend ended up with a racing bike, ditto. You still have a paper boy? Some hobo in a car delivers my paper . . . and the publisher is on the brink of bankruptcy. I have no clue what happens in other cities or some racing bike only store, but every time I go in to a shop to look at bikes, the first question is "what are you looking for?" Then I get pointed in that direction. Then I get asked "what kind of riding do you do and how much do you want to spend?" Upselling generally involves buying a nicer version of whatever bike type I have targeted -- getting the one with Ultegra instead of Tiagra, etc. YMMV. -- Jay Beattie. |
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"Duane" wrote in message ... On 09/14/2012 11:23 PM, Joy Beeson wrote: On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 16:39:15 -0700, "Kerry Montgomery" wrote: Frank Krygowski, Your original statement: "I've never used them, so they can't be essential." No indication, obvious or otherwise, that you were referring to only yourself. Obviously, a jersey with three pockets in back and two in front is essential for bicycle riding. I'd collapse like a marionette with cut strings if I couldn't reach into my right front pocket for a starlight mint at appropriate intervals. NOTHING is essential for riding a bike, except two wheels -- and that's only because you have to call it riding a unicycle when you have only one, and walking if you haven't any. +1. Well two wheels and your butt somewhere on the contraption. Time to be essential... Duane, One person's essential is not another's: http://my.opera.com/badmadcyclist/bl...averse-jumpers Kerry |
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"James" wrote in message ... On 17/09/12 11:14, Tom $herman (-_-) wrote: On 9/16/2012 5:47 PM, James wrote: And don't hark back to helmets. In this country it's the LAW. Well, that is just as stupid as letting Rupert Murdoch run the country. Here it was Frank then Kerry and now James Packer. -- JS. JS, Are you saying I'm stupid, or like Rupert Murdoch, or running the country, or something else? Kerry |
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On Monday, September 17, 2012 9:08:13 AM UTC-7, Kerry Montgomery wrote:
"Duane" wrote: On 09/14/2012 11:23 PM, Joy Beeson wrote: On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 16:39:15 -0700, "Kerry Montgomery" wrote: Frank Krygowski, Your original statement: "I've never used them, so they can't be essential." No indication, obvious or otherwise, that you were referring to only yourself. Obviously, a jersey with three pockets in back and two in front is essential for bicycle riding. I'd collapse like a marionette with cut strings if I couldn't reach into my right front pocket for a starlight mint at appropriate intervals. NOTHING is essential for riding a bike, except two wheels -- and that's only because you have to call it riding a unicycle when you have only one, and walking if you haven't any. +1. Well two wheels and your butt somewhere on the contraption. Time to be essential... Duane, One person's essential is not another's: http://my.opera.com/badmadcyclist/bl...averse-jumpers Moreover, essential to what? Essential to riding a bicycle (at all)? Or essential to the experience that makes riding a bicycle worthwhile and something that I love to do. |
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Dan O wrote:
On Sep 16, 9:09 pm, Frank wrote: The "what they want to sell" is key. A shop owner trying to clear out stock, or an employee working on commission, may be highly motivated to sell an expensive racing bike. When my (now former) paper boy got taken... um, convinced to buy a racing bike, I assumed that's what happened. When my elderly friend ended up with a racing bike, ditto. He's either a sucker or (more likely since you were apparently unable to get him straightened out) that's what he really wanted. Why don't you save the crap you're giving us for him (or maybe you did and just have enough to go around... and around). The man in question didn't ask me. He showed me afterward, when it was too late, and he was asking for advice on how to raise the handlebars so he could reach them. BTW, it's obvious you're incapable of seeing the disconnect between your use of phrases like "the crap you're giving us" and your complaints about truly civil language that I use. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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Dan O wrote:
On Sep 16, 9:51 pm, Frank wrote: snip [much rehashing trimmed] snip It's not that I don't see benefits. It's far more likely that I understand the benefits, and have judged them to, for me, not balance the detriments. For you. Sure. Fine. But your way is not the one right way (I'm quite sure I've tried to tell you exactly that many times before). I'm reminded of the time I was walking along and had a small, dopey, hyperactive dog yapping obnoxiously and nipping at my heels. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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Kerry Montgomery wrote:
Duane, One person's essential is not another's: http://my.opera.com/badmadcyclist/bl...averse-jumpers Kerry I came across two guys riding machines like that at a monument park last year. What they could do was truly amazing. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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