Recent fatal crash at UCLA

I was reading yesterday about the fatal crash that happened at the
UCLA campus during Friday night's Critical Mass ride.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...la-campus.html

A quick image search for the victim's name returns pictures of fixed
gear bikes.

https://www.google.com/search?q=jerico+culata&tbm=isch

The articles mention that he lost control and went wide on a turn
descending a steep hill. Does anyone here know whether the guy was
riding brakeless?

The articles all mention helmets, even though the reporters did not
ascertain whether or not he was wearing one. But the possibility that
he may have been running without brakes seems to have been
overlooked.

Chalo

On 9/3/2012 2:15 PM, Chalo wrote:
I was reading yesterday about the fatal crash that happened at the
UCLA campus during Friday night's Critical Mass ride.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...la-campus.html

A quick image search for the victim's name returns pictures of fixed
gear bikes.

https://www.google.com/search?q=jerico+culata&tbm=isch

The articles mention that he lost control and went wide on a turn
descending a steep hill. Does anyone here know whether the guy was
riding brakeless?

The articles all mention helmets, even though the reporters did not
ascertain whether or not he was wearing one. But the possibility that
he may have been running without brakes seems to have been
overlooked.

Yeah I saw that on the radio and thought the same. But he's
dead either way so not much point now.

Just took in a job for new fork & front wheel from a guy
with a face that looked like raw hamburger. He was drunk and
the car pilot was too, both driving without lights. Didn't
ask about helmets as it seemed irrelevant.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Chalo wrote:
I was reading yesterday about the fatal crash that happened at the
UCLA campus during Friday night's Critical Mass ride.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...la-campus.html

A quick image search for the victim's name returns pictures of fixed
gear bikes.

https://www.google.com/search?q=jerico+culata&tbm=isch

The articles mention that he lost control and went wide on a turn
descending a steep hill. Does anyone here know whether the guy was
riding brakeless?

The articles all mention helmets, even though the reporters did not
ascertain whether or not he was wearing one. But the possibility that
he may have been running without brakes seems to have been
overlooked.

Seems that in the public eye, helmets are far more important than brakes.

There was a similar fatality in Ohio about six weeks ago, ironically on
a memorial ride for another cyclist. The rider recently killed suffered
"massive head trauma" despite his helmet.

Yet one physician, when asked to comment, said precisely this: "Wear a
helmet. Wear a helmet. Wear a helmet."

--
- Frank Krygowski

Frank Krygowski wrote:
Chalo wrote:
I was reading yesterday about the fatal crash that happened at the
UCLA campus during Friday night's Critical Mass ride.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...la-campus.html


A quick image search for the victim's name returns pictures of fixed
gear bikes.

https://www.google.com/search?q=jerico+culata&tbm=isch

The articles mention that he lost control and went wide on a turn
descending a steep hill. Does anyone here know whether the guy was
riding brakeless?

The articles all mention helmets, even though the reporters did not
ascertain whether or not he was wearing one. But the possibility that
he may have been running without brakes seems to have been
overlooked.

Seems that in the public eye, helmets are far more important than brakes.

There was a similar fatality in Ohio about six weeks ago, ironically on
a memorial ride for another cyclist. The rider recently killed suffered
"massive head trauma" despite his helmet.

Yet one physician, when asked to comment, said precisely this: "Wear a
helmet. Wear a helmet. Wear a helmet."

I should clarify. That recent fatality did not involve a fixie, but it
did involve loss of control on a downhill curve.

--
- Frank Krygowski

what would UCLA and Madison Wisconsin have in common ?

The cops would not overlookno brakes. No brakes would rap it up.

When the squad's called for abike accident, by thius time in at least UCLA with a prob bike patrol group, the ionvestigating team would include at least one bike savy investigator.

Inquire and if not throw the bums out.

On 9/3/2012 3:01 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
Chalo wrote:
I was reading yesterday about the fatal crash that happened at the
UCLA campus during Friday night's Critical Mass ride.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...la-campus.html


A quick image search for the victim's name returns pictures of fixed
gear bikes.

https://www.google.com/search?q=jerico+culata&tbm=isch

The articles mention that he lost control and went wide on a turn
descending a steep hill. Does anyone here know whether the guy was
riding brakeless?

The articles all mention helmets, even though the reporters did not
ascertain whether or not he was wearing one. But the possibility that
he may have been running without brakes seems to have been
overlooked.

Seems that in the public eye, helmets are far more important than brakes.

Seems far more likely to me the _idea_ of brakelessness never occurs to
the majority of the public. Perhaps it should, but I suspect it
doesn't, not for public who live far from hipster zones.

Mark J.

On Sep 3, 2:58 pm, Frank Krygowski wrote:
Chalo wrote:
I was reading yesterday about the fatal crash that happened at the
UCLA campus during Friday night's Critical Mass ride.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...illed-when-he-...

A quick image search for the victim's name returns pictures of fixed
gear bikes.

https://www.google.com/search?q=jerico+culata&tbm=isch

The articles mention that he lost control and went wide on a turn
descending a steep hill. Does anyone here know whether the guy was
riding brakeless?

The articles all mention helmets, even though the reporters did not
ascertain whether or not he was wearing one. But the possibility that
he may have been running without brakes seems to have been
overlooked.

Seems that in the public eye, helmets are far more important than brakes.


Why do you say that? I doubt it. I think the public assumes everyone
has brakes, whereas they can readily see many riders don't have
helmets.

They're quite different things, aren't they - brakes and helmets.
Brakes have a function and purpose in ordinary riding, which can be
compensated for by a competent rider. You can't really compensate for
the lack of a helmet. (Of course there are those who say there is
nothing there to compensate for.)

There was a similar fatality in Ohio about six weeks ago, ironically on
a memorial ride for another cyclist. The rider recently killed suffered
"massive head trauma" despite his helmet.


DANGER! DANGER!

Yet one physician, when asked to comment, said precisely this: "Wear a
helmet. Wear a helmet. Wear a helmet."


We already know you have a problem with that, but his statement
doesn't say or even imply that nothing else matters.

Dan O wrote:

They're quite different things, aren't they - brakes and helmets.
Brakes have a function and purpose in ordinary riding, which can be
compensated for by a competent rider. *You can't really compensate for
the lack of a helmet. *(Of course there are those who say there is
nothing there to compensate for.)

In my neighborhood, it is relatively common to see riders with a
helmet, but no brakes.

Chalo

On 9/3/2012 10:11 PM, ¢hª£º ¢º£ìnª wrote:
Dan O wrote:

They're quite different things, aren't they - brakes and helmets.
Brakes have a function and purpose in ordinary riding, which can be
compensated for by a competent rider. �You can't really compensate for
the lack of a helmet. �(Of course there are those who say there is
nothing there to compensate for.)

In my neighborhood, it is relatively common to see riders with a
helmet, but no brakes.

Silly, since hipsters do not have brains worth protecting (not that a
soft shell foam bicycle hat offers significant protection anyhow).

--
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Post Free or Die!

On Sep 3, 5:58*pm, Frank Krygowski wrote:

Yet one physician, when asked to comment, said precisely this: *"Wear a
helmet. Wear a helmet. Wear a helmet."

Do you wear a seat belt while motoring...?
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- gpsman