Why can't cyclists slow down?

A 66-year-old man is critically ill in hospital following a collision with a
cyclist in Liverpool, police have said.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...yside-19268415

"Mrcheerful" wrote in message
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A 66-year-old man is critically ill in hospital following a collision with
a cyclist in Liverpool, police have said.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...yside-19268415


How do you know the cyclist was travelling fast?

John Benn wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote in message
...
A 66-year-old man is critically ill in hospital following a
collision with a cyclist in Liverpool, police have said.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...yside-19268415


How do you know the cyclist was travelling fast?

because of the extent of the pedestrians injuries. If the cyclist had been
travelling at a reasonable speed then he would have been able to stop before
the collision.

On Wednesday, August 15, 2012 3:41:56 PM UTC+1, Mrcheerful wrote:
John Benn wrote:

"Mrcheerful" wrote in message

...

A 66-year-old man is critically ill in hospital following a

collision with a cyclist in Liverpool, police have said.





http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...yside-19268415





How do you know the cyclist was travelling fast?



because of the extent of the pedestrians injuries. If the cyclist had been

travelling at a reasonable speed then he would have been able to stop before

the collision.

Not if the ped stepped out in front of him without warning. You're making assumptions based on your prejudices.

On 15/08/2012 16:03, wrote:
On Wednesday, August 15, 2012 3:41:56 PM UTC+1, Mrcheerful wrote:
John Benn wrote:

"Mrcheerful" wrote in message

...

A 66-year-old man is critically ill in hospital following a

collision with a cyclist in Liverpool, police have said.





http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...yside-19268415





How do you know the cyclist was travelling fast?



because of the extent of the pedestrians injuries. If the cyclist had been

travelling at a reasonable speed then he would have been able to stop before

the collision.

Not if the ped stepped out in front of him without warning. You're making assumptions based on your prejudices.


A certain person on this group, tell us that the vulnerable victim can
never be to blame, as a vehicle should always be able to stop in time.

wrote:
On Wednesday, August 15, 2012 3:41:56 PM UTC+1, Mrcheerful wrote:
John Benn wrote:

"Mrcheerful" wrote in message

...

A 66-year-old man is critically ill in hospital following a

collision with a cyclist in Liverpool, police have said.





http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...yside-19268415





How do you know the cyclist was travelling fast?



because of the extent of the pedestrians injuries. If the cyclist
had been

travelling at a reasonable speed then he would have been able to
stop before

the collision.

Not if the ped stepped out in front of him without warning. You're
making assumptions based on your prejudices.


pedestrians NEVER materialise in front of you, they can always be seen in
advance (which IS your warning) and avoided IF the rider/driver is
travelling at a suitable speed and is sufficiently attentive.

On 15/08/2012 16:03, wrote:
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How do you know the cyclist was travelling fast?



because of the extent of the pedestrians injuries. If the cyclist had been

travelling at a reasonable speed then he would have been able to stop before

the collision.

Not if the ped stepped out in front of him without warning. You're making assumptions based on your prejudices.


The cyclist was in a public park. He should have used anticipation &
observation. He didn't.

--
Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a
legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a
vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton, of Lancaster
University, wrote in an interim assessment of the Understanding Walking
and Cycling study. "For them, cycling is a bit embarrassing, they fail
to see its purpose, and have no interest in integrating it into their
lives, certainly on a regular basis."

On 15/08/2012 16:47, Tony Dragon wrote:
On 15/08/2012 16:03, wrote:
On Wednesday, August 15, 2012 3:41:56 PM UTC+1, Mrcheerful wrote:
John Benn wrote:

"Mrcheerful" wrote in message

...

A 66-year-old man is critically ill in hospital following a

collision with a cyclist in Liverpool, police have said.





http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...yside-19268415





How do you know the cyclist was travelling fast?



because of the extent of the pedestrians injuries. If the cyclist
had been

travelling at a reasonable speed then he would have been able to stop
before

the collision.

Not if the ped stepped out in front of him without warning. You're
making assumptions based on your prejudices.


A certain person on this group, tell us that the vulnerable victim can
never be to blame, as a vehicle should always be able to stop in time.

And the larger, heavier, faster one is automatically at fault.



--
Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a
legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a
vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton, of Lancaster
University, wrote in an interim assessment of the Understanding Walking
and Cycling study. "For them, cycling is a bit embarrassing, they fail
to see its purpose, and have no interest in integrating it into their
lives, certainly on a regular basis."

On 15/08/2012 16:03, wrote:
On Wednesday, August 15, 2012 3:41:56 PM UTC+1, Mrcheerful wrote:
John Benn wrote:

"Mrcheerful" wrote in message

...

A 66-year-old man is critically ill in hospital following a

collision with a cyclist in Liverpool, police have said.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...yside-19268415

How do you know the cyclist was travelling fast?

because of the extent of the pedestrians injuries. If the cyclist had been
travelling at a reasonable speed then he would have been able to stop before
the collision.

Not if the ped stepped out in front of him without warning. You're making assumptions based on your prejudices.

Princes Park is a.. er... park. One with railings all round it.

*Not* a road.

On 15/08/2012 17:41, Mrcheerful wrote:
wrote:
On Wednesday, August 15, 2012 3:41:56 PM UTC+1, Mrcheerful wrote:
John Benn wrote:

"Mrcheerful" wrote in message

...

A 66-year-old man is critically ill in hospital following a

collision with a cyclist in Liverpool, police have said.





http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...yside-19268415





How do you know the cyclist was travelling fast?



because of the extent of the pedestrians injuries. If the cyclist
had been

travelling at a reasonable speed then he would have been able to
stop before

the collision.

Not if the ped stepped out in front of him without warning. You're
making assumptions based on your prejudices.


pedestrians NEVER materialise in front of you, they can always be seen in
advance (which IS your warning) and avoided IF the rider/driver is
travelling at a suitable speed and is sufficiently attentive.

Especially in a wide open space like Princes Park.