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"mountain" and "road" pedals
Group: rec.bicycles.tech Date: Sun, Oct 15, 2006, 6:39am (EDT-3) From:
(Johnny*Sunset*aka*Tom*Sherman) You will be considered a "Fred" if you use ATB pedals on a road bike. I've got those. This offense is a serious as wearing a wool jersey, riding a steel framed bicycle, No wool, but I ride a steel framed Schwinn, having conventional 36-spoke wheels, Not only 36 spokes, but laced to box channel rims. down-tube or bar-end shifters, Bar-ends less than 10 gears in back, Only 7, UniGlide! a triple crank in front, And Biopace too boot! tires wider than 23-mm, How does 26 sound? fenders, etc. Darn! I'll have to get me some of those! In other words, unless you are a slave to fashion and peer pressure, go for it. -- Tom Sherman - Here, not there. Ahh, how I love living in a free country! - - Compliments of: "Your 'Better Phred Than Dead' Wheelman" If you want to E-mail me use: ChrisZCorner "at" webtv "dot" net My website: http://geocities.com/czcorner |
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"mountain" and "road" pedals
"Michael Press" wrote in message ... In article , "* * Chas" wrote: "Michael Press" wrote in message ... In article , "* * Chas" wrote: I still ride with toe clips because I haven't found any clipless shoes that comfortably fit my size 10 1/2 EEEE feet (size 44-45 ultra wide)! I had trouble fitting the width of my feet until I started buying longer shoes; longer than the nominal length of my feet. Suddenly the width problem disappeared. I eventually was told that my feet are 10 1/2 from heel to arch, though they are nominal 9 1/2 E* overall. From arch to toes my feet are wider and shorter than the `norm', though the sheer numbers of people who have trouble fitting width suggest that shoe manufacturers deliberately make shoes narrower than they should. A shoe that fits too narrowly at the metatarsal arch will wear out more quickly by bursting the upper and tearing out of the welt. -- Michael Press I have the same kind of feet. Great for swimming but tough to find shoes that fit. When I was in my teens I wore size 12 1/2 or 13 E shoes for the same reason. As I got older and could afford better quality shoes I could get size 11 E that fit. My feet have gradually gotten shorter and wider while my high arch has remained the same. I found that with cycling shoes that are too long, they eventually stretch from the back and forth stresses of pedaling and I start to get heal blisters or they start to dig into the tops of my toes from flexing while walking. I tried on several pairs of Shimano clipless shoes (45 & 46) that were to long they had both problems. I still have 3 pairs of old fashioned cycling shoes left. When they wear out I'll have to bite the bullet. I should have added that I bought Shimano brand mtb shoes in a 45 (US 10 1/2). They are entirely comfortable over many hours of riding. I talked to a gent out on the road wearing the same model shoe. He says he switched to the Shimano shoes and was jubilant, as his previous shoes were all very uncomfortable. -- Michael Press This has been a very informative thread with lots of good feedback. I've been thinking about the problems I use to have with toeclips and straps. I realized today that most of the discomfort came from 3" wide Campy and similar pedals. I even used to use cheap Leotard 460 alloy pedals because they were wider. The toe straps wrapped up around the sides of my feet and cut off some circulation and/or produced some nerve compression. Changing from long to medium length toe clips helped a little but forced me to raise my seat height that resulted in other problems. I've been using 4 1/2" wide Sakae LowFat pedals since the early 90's and haven't had the painful pressure that I used to get with narrower pedals. I'm still curious about clipless and I'll keep trying to find some comfortable shoes. Thanks, Chas. |
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Roadie shoes with SPD pedal [Was: "mountain" and "road" pedals]
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:45:50 GMT, Artoi wrote:
The associated question now is what are the pros and cons of using road shoes with SPD cleats/pedals? One salesman told me that SPD system sometimes can crack the sole and they had a number of customers coming back with that problem. Is that also BS? I briefly used SPD on a pair of road shoes. It works, but since the cleat isn't recessed foot slippage when you don't engage correctly is much worse, and walking around on them is horrible - worse that on plastic road cleats. If you want to use SPD on the road and are worried about looking the part, get some road-style SPD shoes i.e. ones that don't look like hiking boots :-) -- Home page: http://members.westnet.com.au/mvw |
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Roadie shoes with SPD pedal [Was: "mountain" and "road" pedals]
Michael Warner wrote:
I briefly used SPD on a pair of road shoes. It works, but since the cleat isn't recessed foot slippage when you don't engage correctly is much worse, and walking around on them is horrible - worse that on plastic road cleats. Hm, the SPD "road" cleats (SH70 and SH71) come with plastic/rubber pontons that prevent the latter to some extend (I assume, never used them). -- MfG/Best regards helmut springer |
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Roadie shoes with SPD pedal [Was: "mountain" and "road" pedals]
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:45:50 GMT, Artoi wrote:
The associated question now is what are the pros and cons of using road shoes with SPD cleats/pedals? One salesman told me that SPD system sometimes can crack the sole and they had a number of customers coming back with that problem. [break added] Is that also BS? Yes. -- JT **************************** Remove "remove" to reply Visit http://www.jt10000.com **************************** |
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Roadie shoes with SPD pedal [Was: "mountain" and "road" pedals]
On 17 Oct 2006 07:32:07 GMT, Helmut Springer
wrote: Michael Warner wrote: I briefly used SPD on a pair of road shoes. It works, but since the cleat isn't recessed foot slippage when you don't engage correctly is much worse, and walking around on them is horrible - worse that on plastic road cleats. Hm, the SPD "road" cleats (SH70 and SH71) come with plastic/rubber pontons that prevent the latter to some extend (I assume, never used them). The pontoons work. -- JT **************************** Remove "remove" to reply Visit http://www.jt10000.com **************************** |
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Roadie shoes with SPD pedal [Was: "mountain" and "road" pedals]
On 17 Oct 2006 07:32:07 GMT, Helmut Springer wrote:
Hm, the SPD "road" cleats (SH70 and SH71) come with plastic/rubber pontons that prevent the latter to some extend (I assume, never used them). Oh, ok. I took the bare SPD cleats from my SPD shoes. Horrible. -- Home page: http://members.westnet.com.au/mvw |
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"mountain" and "road" pedals
Paul Hobson wrote: I'm thinking about getting Candies or Quattros. Could you please elaborate on your platform vs. non-platform preference? I can only speak for the Candies. My biggest problem with them is too much friction between the platform and the clip mechanism. The platform doesn't spin freely enough against the clip bars (The entire assembly spins fine on the spindle). When I ride unclipped, the clip mechanism tends to get rotated by the shoe so that it's out of ideal alignment with the platform making it harder to clip back in. This is exacerbated by the Lake MXZ-300s I'm usually using with these pedals as they are my hardest shoes with which to clip in consistently even on the naked EBs and despite trimming the soles. This problem isn't a show stopper and I still use them for winter because I want the stability of the platform when going through snow unclipped. It might not be very frustrating if you have no experience with the naked EBs but for those that do, the *sometimes* fiddly clip-in is a little annoying. The Quattros and the new Smarties may have reduced or no friction against the platfom making this a non-issue. Note that the Quattros seem to address another minor problem with the Candies in that you can get the cleat hung up on the back edge of the platform as you try to sweep your foot forward into the mechanism. I think this is more of an issue if you're trained to use the naked design and are making the same motions to clip in with the platforms. The Quattros have notably thinned sections on the front and back sides of the platform and the sides are tapered to form ramps that the shoe can ride into position on. It looks to me like the Quattro design is intended to alleviate this problem with the Candy platform. One point in favor of the Candies is the good seals. After two winters of use I opened them up for the first time and there was still fresh grease in the bearings. This would not have been the case with winter riding (heavy salt water exposure) on naked EBs without any service for so long. |
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Roadie shoes with SPD pedal [Was: "mountain" and "road" pedals]
Artoi who? writes:
seconded. That sounds like a big ole smear of brown roadie BS.Tighten them down nicely and most SPD will grip as well as any mere mortal will ever need. Unless you have special needs knees, don't **** away your money on special needs pedals. The basic Shimanos, or even Wellgo 800s ($40), or the house branded Wellgos like Nashbar are great. Cleats are ubiquitous and inexpensive as well. The associated question now is what are the pros and cons of using road shoes with SPD cleats/pedals? One salesman told me that SPD system sometimes can crack the sole and they had a number of customers coming back with that problem. Is that also BS? That is BS. Of course you can probably find some junk shoes that won't support a cleat but with many miles of riding Shimano shoes I have had no problem and never changed the cleats during the life of the shoes. Shoes wear out! The Nylon mesh disintegrates with weather and wear as does the toe from scuffing. Jobst Brandt |
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