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  #161  
Old November 30th 08, 11:43 PM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,uk.rec.cycling,alt.usenet.legends.lester-mosley
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The world was upside down. What was he, a Master of the Universe, doing
down here on the floor, reduced to ransacking his brain for white lies to
circumvent the sweet logic of his wife?
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that his otherwise perfect daughter liked to play with" -- Bonfire of the
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  #162  
Old December 1st 08, 12:26 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides,uk.rec.cycling
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"marika" wrote in message
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"Edward Dolan" wrote in message
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Obviously you have no consideration for poor Marika. If I don't humor
her, who will?


know that you are supposed to be "humoring" but what does this all
mean?-Besdies that it is supposed to be funny?


"Humoring" means to string you along for the dolt that I know you are. I do
it because of the sense of noblesse oblige which I feel toward my inferiors
such as you.

Have you seen No Country for Old Men?

I'm pretty sure you must have--but if not-please do


I have seen it. What point to you want to make in connection with it? But I
must warn you, I thought it was the worst movie ever made. Mindless violence
is mindless. What else is there to be said about it?

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


  #163  
Old December 1st 08, 04:18 PM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides,uk.rec.cycling
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On Nov 30, 7:26*pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"marika" wrote in message

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"Edward Dolan" wrote in message
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Obviously you have no consideration for poor Marika. If I don't humor
her, who will?


know that you are supposed to be "humoring" but what does this all
mean?-Besdies that it is supposed to be funny?


"Humoring" means to string you along for the dolt that I know you are. I do
it because of the sense of noblesse oblige which I feel toward my inferiors
such as you.

Have you seen No Country for Old Men?


I'm pretty sure you must have--but if not-please do


I have seen it. What point to you want to make in connection with it? *But I
must warn you, I thought it was the worst movie ever made. Mindless violence
is mindless. What else is there to be said about it?


I've thought you said you were for the war in Iraq.

More deaths today, but oil junkies are happy.

  #164  
Old December 1st 08, 10:30 PM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides,uk.rec.cycling
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(Hey, somebody is reading this, right? Deep study of human behavior is
taking place)

To know human society... poke with a stick at an ant colony

I often think of myself as a monkey poking a stick at an ant colony to
observe its behavior. Well, there's a science that comes from that
observation, which can answer fundamental questions about humanity...

"We can not know where we are going unless we know where we came from"
-E.O. Wilson

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=97547749

"Wilson came to believe that humans, like ants, are genetically
designed to live within natural limits. It is becoming increasingly
obvious that those limits are directly related to reduced energy use
and consumption of natural resources, family planning, and cooperation
among societies, rather than competition."

http://www.mtexpress.com/index2.php?ID=2005121653

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But I think big Ed is more interested in roaches than ants...

Originally Posted by jfmckenna
"I always preferred the magnifying glass to the stick."

The stick is meant to cause some kind of reaction. When observing
roaches though I change the stick for the shoe.

Roaches show me that they operate in the dark and that they like to
eat anything. And they are more individualistic than cooperative ants.
Perhaps ants show leftist tendencies while roaches show Republican
leanings.

  #165  
Old December 2nd 08, 11:13 PM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides,uk.rec.cycling
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(I'd hate to leave out of the revolution, guys, so here's an update)

Originally Posted by -=£em in Pa=-
"I think we should try to attain the status of Brazil before
shooting for Switzerland."

You have a point there, particularly if we talk about the Curitiba
model for American cities...

Curitiba's Bus System is Model for Rapid Transit
By Joseph Goodman, Melissa Laube, and Judith Schwenk

Bus systems provide a versatile form of public transportation with the
flexibility to serve a variety of access needs and unlimited range of
locations throughout a metropolitan area. Buses also travel on urban
roadways, so infrastructure investments can be substantially lower
than the capital costs required for rail systems. As a result, bus
service can be implemented cost-effectively on many routes. Yet,
despite the inherent advantages of a bus service, conventional urban
buses inching their way through congested streets don’t win much
political support. The essence of a Bus Rapid Transit is to improve
bus operating speed and reliability on arterial streets by reducing or
eliminating the various types of delay.

The bus system of Curitiba, Brazil, exemplifies a model Bus Rapid
Transit (BRT) system, and plays a large part in making this a livable
city. The buses run frequently—some as often as every 90 seconds—and
reliably, and the stations are convenient, well-designed, comfortable,
and attractive. Consequently, Curitiba has one of the most heavily
used, yet low-cost, transit systems in the world. It offers many of
the features of a subway system—vehicle movements unimpeded by traffic
signals and congestion, fare collection prior to boarding, quick
passenger loading and unloading—but it is above ground and visible.
Around 70 percent of Curitiba’s commuters use the BRT to travel to
work, resulting in congestion-free streets and pollution-free air for
the 2.2 million inhabitants of greater Curitiba.

http://www.urbanhabitat.org/node/344

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You know what, I'm going to make a wish list, such as I'd make for
Santa, just that this is a to-do list for the revolution. I say "the
revolution" because I don't think these things can get accomplished by
regular politicians...

1- low crime by decriminalizing drugs

2- good public transportation

3- traffic safety

4- BIKE FACILITIES

5- littering control

6- low cost, high quality healthcare, based on prevention

7- fast trains

8- no more gated communities

9- noise pollution control

10- eradication of homelessness

(add your own petition)


  #166  
Old December 3rd 08, 06:44 PM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides,uk.rec.cycling
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Originally Posted by cyclezealot
"A Swedish exchange student , who came to my high school. He was
Lutheran and quite conservative.. Been a life long friend outside
Goteborg. When in the US years ago, he railed against the Swedish
Socialists... Well, his primary college education.. Foreign languages
and export. Job training did not take. They paid him to again go back
to school.. He found his vocation.. He's been paying Swedish taxes
ever since. After seeing the poverty of America and how his friends
here faired.. He no longer rails against Swedish socialists."

***

I choose a name for my revolution (besides banana)... HUMANISM.

It's about being human, not left or right. But the right seems to have
it wrong too often. And the left often does nothing. Here's some
highlights of the article on the post-partisan politician... a
"Republican" by the name of Schwarzzenegger.

ON EXPERIENCE
"I said, There's a storehouse of experience up in Sacramento and look
at the shape the state is in. So it couldn't be experience that makes
the state in good shape. What it needs is the will. The will to go and
make tough decisions and the right decisions. I have the will, is what
I told the people. And that's exactly what I have. I have the will."

ON UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE
"It was a party-line vote in the California Assembly --all Democrats
voting yes and every single member of his party, the Republicans,
voting no --and yes, the bill that was passed proposed paying for the
expansion of health-care insurance by increasing the state tax on
cigarettes."

ON TOUGH POLLUTION CONTROLS
"And then, on Wednesday, Bush. Well, Bush's EPA, which announced that
it would not permit California and sixteen other states to set their
own stringent standards for greenhouse-gas emissions. The bill that
had stood as the best example of what Arnold could do for the United
States from the state of California had been declared moot by an
administration that had been able to do so little for the United
States from Washington, D.C."


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Prosperity in Frugality

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  #167  
Old December 3rd 08, 07:04 PM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides,uk.rec.cycling
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Americo
I once lived in a suburb that decided to put walk/bike paths along
every street in the city. They were wider than most sidewalks and they
painted a line seperating the bikes from the pedestrians. The only
drawback was that the project uprooted too many trees - but, still, I
thought it was a splendid idea.

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Where I live I can't ride to 70% of the places I would if I had bike
facilities. There's only a new scenic trail that takes me close to
some shops and I can take the back streets to the supermarket. But the
main roads are no man's land, and I have been threatened and
terrorized for using my right to be on the road.

That would have been my contribution to fight greed, injustice,
terrorism and global warming but my right to survive takes preference
in the jungle.
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"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere" -M.L. King
  #168  
Old December 3rd 08, 07:14 PM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides,uk.rec.cycling
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"ComandanteBanana" wrote in message
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[...]
ON UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE
"It was a party-line vote in the California Assembly --all Democrats
voting yes and every single member of his party, the Republicans,
voting no --and yes, the bill that was passed proposed paying for the
expansion of health-care insurance by increasing the state tax on
cigarettes."


Universal health care will be expensive, probably on the order of public
school education K-12. The only way to finance it will be a value added tax.
Even so, it is critically needed. This will not be socialism anymore than
public schools are considered socialism. It will simply be a right by virtue
of being a citizen of the country.
[...]

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


  #169  
Old December 3rd 08, 07:38 PM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides,uk.rec.cycling
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"ComandanteBanana" wrote in message
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Americo
I once lived in a suburb that decided to put walk/bike paths along
every street in the city. They were wider than most sidewalks and they
painted a line seperating the bikes from the pedestrians. The only
drawback was that the project uprooted too many trees - but, still, I
thought it was a splendid idea.

***

Where I live I can't ride to 70% of the places I would if I had bike
facilities. There's only a new scenic trail that takes me close to
some shops and I can take the back streets to the supermarket. But the
main roads are no man's land, and I have been threatened and
terrorized for using my right to be on the road.

That would have been my contribution to fight greed, injustice,
terrorism and global warming but my right to survive takes preference
in the jungle.


ComandanteBanana is right about the roads and streets being unfriendly to
cyclists. Florida is an especially dangerous state for cyclists. Even though
he doesn't realize it, I am on his side.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


  #170  
Old December 4th 08, 12:47 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides,uk.rec.cycling
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On Dec 3, 2:38*pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"ComandanteBanana" wrote in message

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Americo
I once lived in a suburb that decided to put walk/bike paths along
every street in the city. They were wider than most sidewalks and they
painted a line seperating the bikes from the pedestrians. The only
drawback was that the project uprooted too many trees - but, still, I
thought it was a splendid idea.


***


Where I live I can't ride to 70% of the places I would if I had bike
facilities. There's only a new scenic trail that takes me close to
some shops and I can take the back streets to the supermarket. But the
main roads are no man's land, and I have been threatened and
terrorized for using my right to be on the road.


That would have been my contribution to fight greed, injustice,
terrorism and global warming but my right to survive takes preference
in the jungle.


ComandanteBanana is right about the roads and streets being unfriendly to
cyclists. Florida is an especially dangerous state for cyclists. Even though
he doesn't realize it, I am on his side.


OK, welcome aboard. The cost of healthcare is even making autoworkers
prohibitively expensive for the Big Three.

On the subject of Florida roads, we often don't even have sidewalks to
walk on. I walked today for 80 min. (a distance I could have biked in
20 min.) and even so I had to walk on the road part of the way. We are
not even an afterthought.

 




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