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  #91  
Old May 1st 09, 03:40 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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mileburner wrote:

Our former head said exactly the same. But now there is one and the
road has become difficult for traffic to navigate.

My personal feeling is that that the school *should* take
responsibility for the traffic it generates and deal with it
accordingly. However, we always seem to end up with an eternal
triangle of blame dodging: The school say it is a police matter, the
police say it is a council matter and the council say it is a school
matter. ******s - the lot of 'em.


And yet if it were a commercial company/s at the centre of such congestion
then the authorities would be down on them like a ton of bricks.

As you say, ******s.


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  #92  
Old May 1st 09, 06:16 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Just zis Guy, you know?[_2_]
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On Fri, 1 May 2009 15:01:00 +0100, "Dave Larrington"
wrote:

Unfortunately, they skimped a bit on their preparatory research and called
it "James Earl Ray Street".


It's OK, I don't think anyone will notice. Apart from that Obama guy,
maybe.

Guy
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  #93  
Old May 1st 09, 08:09 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Fri, 1 May 2009 11:39:29 +0100, "Mr Benn" %%%@%.%% wrote:


"Just zis Guy, you know?" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 1 May 2009 10:54:45 +0100, "Mr Benn" %%%@%.%% wrote:

if a school teaching safe cycling and not at the same
time reminding the parents that the biggest risk to their children is
them and their friends in their cars, then we are back to the 1970s
era of the Tufty Club and training our kids in car supremacism.


Do you mean the Green Cross Code?


No, I mean the Tufty Club.


I see. Don't you think that educating children in road safety issues is a
good idea?



Crispin who is a teacher and I believe teaches road safety cannot
bring himself to recommend pupils wear cycle helmets.

He would rather tell a child to ask their mum or dad.

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"Primary position" the middle of a traffic lane. To take the "primary position" : to ride a bike in the middle of the lane in order to obstruct other road vehicles from overtaking.

A term invented by and used by psycholists and not recognised in the Highway Code.

Highway Code Rule 168 : "Never obstruct drivers who wish to pass."

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Old May 1st 09, 08:17 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Fri, 01 May 2009 14:35:56 +0100, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
wrote:

On Fri, 1 May 2009 11:39:29 +0100, "Mr Benn" %%%@%.%% wrote:

if a school teaching safe cycling and not at the same
time reminding the parents that the biggest risk to their children is
them and their friends in their cars, then we are back to the 1970s
era of the Tufty Club and training our kids in car supremacism.
Do you mean the Green Cross Code?
No, I mean the Tufty Club.

I see. Don't you think that educating children in road safety issues is a
good idea?


Whatever gave you that idea?



So Chapman does not think that educating children in road safety
issues is a good idea.

I must admit I am not surprised.

This is from the guy who cannot tell us why he recommends to his
children that they wear cycle helmets - even though he *knows* they
are such a bad thing.

Mind you he thought that less than half a dozen children saying that
rode faster when wearing a helmet proved Risk Compensation - so he;s
not that bright.



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I have never said that I encourage my children to wear helmets. (Guy
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I would challenge judith to find the place where I said I encourage
my children to wear helmets. (Guy Chapman)
I pointed out the web page
He then quickly changed the web page - but "forgot" to change the date
of last amendment so it looked like the change had been there for
years.

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Old May 1st 09, 08:21 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Fri, 01 May 2009 14:46:34 +0100, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
wrote:

snip


That's made me a little sad, though, because I remember how much I
miss the lovely John Milne (http://www.adinjc.org.uk/aims.html). He
was a really nice guy, a lot like John Franklin - very thoughtful,
calm, and unjudgmental. A thoroughly decent man.

Guy



Was he on your list of famous people you have met?

Is that why you are so sad?


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I encourage my children to wear helmets. (Guy Chapman)
I have never said that I encourage my children to wear helmets. (Guy
Chapman)
I would challenge judith to find the place where I said I encourage
my children to wear helmets. (Guy Chapman)
I pointed out the web page
He then quickly changed the web page - but "forgot" to change the date
of last amendment so it looked like the change had been there for
years.


--

"Primary position" the middle of a traffic lane. To take the "primary position" : to ride a bike in the middle of the lane in order to obstruct other road vehicles from overtaking.

A term invented by and used by psycholists and not recognised in the Highway Code.

Highway Code Rule 168 : "Never obstruct drivers who wish to pass."

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Old May 2nd 09, 11:00 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,alt.usenet.legends.lester-mosley
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"Phil W Lee" phil(at)lee-family(dot)me(dot)uk wrote in message
...

Even better then - painting a cycle lane will leave the road too
narrow for motor vehicles.


What a surprise!

mk5000


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Old May 3rd 09, 08:03 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On 1 May, 15:40, "Brimstone" wrote:
mileburner wrote:
Our former head said exactly the same. But now there is one and the
road has become difficult for traffic to navigate.


My personal feeling is that that the school *should* take
responsibility for the traffic it generates and deal with it
accordingly. However, we always seem to end up with an eternal
triangle of blame dodging: The school say it is a police matter, the
police say it is a council matter and the council say it is a school
matter. ******s - the lot of 'em.


And yet if it were a commercial company/s at the centre of such congestion
then the authorities would be down on them like a ton of bricks.

As you say, ******s.

No the problem is that the car culture is so powerful and has
permeated every aspect of our society that nobody, apart from a few
like me, dare oppose it. Don't forget too that those ******s are
statistically more than likely to be motorists themselves.

Two schools near me have large free car parks for their teachers and
virtually no cycle parking.

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Old May 3rd 09, 08:25 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Doug wrote:
On 1 May, 15:40, "Brimstone" wrote:
mileburner wrote:
Our former head said exactly the same. But now there is one and the
road has become difficult for traffic to navigate.


My personal feeling is that that the school *should* take
responsibility for the traffic it generates and deal with it
accordingly. However, we always seem to end up with an eternal
triangle of blame dodging: The school say it is a police matter, the
police say it is a council matter and the council say it is a school
matter. ******s - the lot of 'em.


And yet if it were a commercial company/s at the centre of such
congestion then the authorities would be down on them like a ton of
bricks.

As you say, ******s.

No the problem is that the car culture is so powerful and has
permeated every aspect of our society that nobody, apart from a few
like me, dare oppose it. Don't forget too that those ******s are
statistically more than likely to be motorists themselves.

Two schools near me have large free car parks for their teachers and
virtually no cycle parking.


Here is evidence that Doug will never allow anyone to agree with him.


  #99  
Old May 3rd 09, 09:55 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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"Doug" wrote in message
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On 1 May, 15:40, "Brimstone" wrote:
mileburner wrote:
Our former head said exactly the same. But now there is one and the
road has become difficult for traffic to navigate.


My personal feeling is that that the school *should* take
responsibility for the traffic it generates and deal with it
accordingly. However, we always seem to end up with an eternal
triangle of blame dodging: The school say it is a police matter, the
police say it is a council matter and the council say it is a school
matter. ******s - the lot of 'em.


And yet if it were a commercial company/s at the centre of such
congestion
then the authorities would be down on them like a ton of bricks.

As you say, ******s.

No the problem is that the car culture is so powerful and has
permeated every aspect of our society that nobody, apart from a few
like me, dare oppose it. Don't forget too that those ******s are
statistically more than likely to be motorists themselves.

Two schools near me have large free car parks for their teachers and
virtually no cycle parking.


That's because there is no demand for them. Like you say "car culture is so
powerful and has permeated every aspect of our society" that nobody is going
to cycle a short distance when they could use their own personal automotive
transport instead.


  #100  
Old May 3rd 09, 11:12 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Doug wrote:
On 1 May, 15:40, "Brimstone" wrote:
mileburner wrote:
Our former head said exactly the same. But now there is one and the
road has become difficult for traffic to navigate.
My personal feeling is that that the school *should* take
responsibility for the traffic it generates and deal with it
accordingly. However, we always seem to end up with an eternal
triangle of blame dodging: The school say it is a police matter, the
police say it is a council matter and the council say it is a school
matter. ******s - the lot of 'em.

And yet if it were a commercial company/s at the centre of such congestion
then the authorities would be down on them like a ton of bricks.

As you say, ******s.

No the problem is that the car culture is so powerful and has
permeated every aspect of our society that nobody, apart from a few
like me, dare oppose it. Don't forget too that those ******s are
statistically more than likely to be motorists themselves.

Two schools near me have large free car parks for their teachers and
virtually no cycle parking.


What does "virtually no cycle-parking" mean?

"Virtually" must be one of the most poorly-understood and most-frequently
misused words in English.
 




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