Securing panniers?

I had to give up my driving license this week due a fields test of
below 120deg. Not the end of the world - as I wasn't using the car
all that much anyway, and now they'll be no more arguments over whose
turn it is to drive!

Struck me though that one thing cars are good for is driving to races/
events, for e.g. a cross country run 10M from home. Now I could cycle
that easy and still do the run (I've seen people with large wire
cables lock bikes up to trees, etc), but what to do with all the kit?
I'm reckoning (during winter) a lightset, coat, cycling shoes, bib,
etc. could all be necessary, so is there a handy way to secure these
to the bike?

My rack is a Tubus and the panniers are Ortlieb back-rollers (though I
could get another pannier if it solves this problem). Maybe there's a
solution a bit like the Pacsafe locks for back-packs, maybe a Pacsafe
works well for bikes? Just seeing if anyone has any recommendations?

Thanks,

Duncan

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Duncan Smith wrote:

. a cross country run 10M from home. Now I could cycle
that easy and still do the run (I've seen people with large wire
cables lock bikes up to trees, etc), but what to do with all the kit?
I'm reckoning (during winter) a lightset, coat, cycling shoes, bib,
etc. could all be necessary, so is there a handy way to secure these
to the bike?

Raise the need for secure bike parking with race organisers? Part of
their climate change policy?

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Charles
Brompton P6R-Plus; CarryFreedom -YL, in Motspur Park
LCC; CTC.

On 17 Jan, 08:14, Duncan Smith wrote:
Struck me though that one thing cars are good for is driving to races/
events, for e.g. a cross country run 10M from home. *Now I could cycle
that easy and still do the run (I've seen people with large wire
cables lock bikes up to trees, etc), but what to do with all the kit?
I'm reckoning (during winter) a lightset, coat, cycling shoes, bib,
etc. could all be necessary, so is there a handy way to secure these
to the bike?

Where are you parking and how paranoid are you? I'd be inclined just
to lock the panniers to the rack with a cable lock and assume that
nobody would want to nick my manky old cycling clothes anyway.

POHB wrote:

Where are you parking and how paranoid are you? I'd be inclined just
to lock the panniers to the rack with a cable lock and assume that
nobody would want to nick my manky old cycling clothes anyway.

Pretty much my thoughts: when I take the MTB for part of a hillwalking
walk-in I usually lock it out of obvious sight and leave some kit with
it. Yes, you could steal a nice Ortlieb pannier by just cutting through
the grab handle, but is the sort of person who does that likely to be
walking in the Cairngorms and can they be arsed to carry it out 5 miles
back to their car?
Different parking points would be a different matter, of course.

Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

POHB wrote:
Where are you parking and how paranoid are you? I'd be inclined just
to lock the panniers to the rack with a cable lock and assume that
nobody would want to nick my manky old cycling clothes anyway.

Pretty much my thoughts: when I take the MTB for part of a hillwalking
walk-in I usually lock it out of obvious sight and leave some kit with
it. Yes, you could steal a nice Ortlieb pannier by just cutting through
the grab handle, but is the sort of person who does that likely to be
walking in the Cairngorms and can they be arsed to carry it out 5 miles
back to their car?
Different parking points would be a different matter, of course.

I guess that's the answer, take the old hack and pack a £20 w-proof
from millets - no gear you'd be too upset about loosing...

Cheers,

Duncan

m wrote:
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Duncan Smith wrote:

. a cross country run 10M from home. Now I could cycle
that easy and still do the run (I've seen people with large wire
cables lock bikes up to trees, etc), but what to do with all the kit?
I'm reckoning (during winter) a lightset, coat, cycling shoes, bib,
etc. could all be necessary, so is there a handy way to secure these
to the bike?

Raise the need for secure bike parking with race organisers? Part of
their climate change policy?

"A cross country run" isn't necessarily a race, it can just be a run,
across country.

Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

Duncan Smith wrote:

Struck me though that one thing cars are good for is driving to races/
events, for e.g. a cross country run 10M from home. Now I could cycle
that easy and still do the run (I've seen people with large wire
cables lock bikes up to trees, etc), but what to do with all the kit?
I'm reckoning (during winter) a lightset, coat, cycling shoes, bib,
etc. could all be necessary, so is there a handy way to secure these
to the bike?

My rack is a Tubus and the panniers are Ortlieb back-rollers (though I
could get another pannier if it solves this problem). Maybe there's a
solution a bit like the Pacsafe locks for back-packs, maybe a Pacsafe
works well for bikes? Just seeing if anyone has any recommendations?

Ortlieb sell an anti theft system which should allow you to secure it
somehow (though I'm not sure exactly how it works):
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/ProductDetai...dID=5360013976

Note this is only compatible with panniers using the QL2 mounting system
(ie Back Roller Plus) and not compatible with the QL1 mount (ie Back
Roller Classic).
It don't think it'll stop anyone cutting open the pannier etc, though
that's probably not very likely.

If its an event you could ask the organiser for somewhere to leave your
bag, they could probably keep it in their car (I've done this a few
times for various events).
Or just hide and lock the bike and bag in some trees etc (and remember
where you left it!).

Note this is only compatible with panniers using the QL2 mounting system
(ie Back Roller Plus) and not compatible with the QL1 mount (ie Back
Roller Classic).
It don't think it'll stop anyone cutting open the pannier etc, though
that's probably not very likely.

If its an event you could ask the organiser for somewhere to leave your
bag, they could probably keep it in their car (I've done this a few
times for various events).
Or just hide and lock the bike and bag in some trees etc (and remember
where you left it!).

Cheers, Wiggle's currently out of order but it sounds interesting,
I'll take a look later..

Duncan

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says...
I had to give up my driving license this week due a fields test of
below 120deg. Not the end of the world - as I wasn't using the car
all that much anyway, and now they'll be no more arguments over whose
turn it is to drive!

Struck me though that one thing cars are good for is driving to races/
events, for e.g. a cross country run 10M from home. Now I could cycle
that easy and still do the run (I've seen people with large wire
cables lock bikes up to trees, etc), but what to do with all the kit?
I'm reckoning (during winter) a lightset, coat, cycling shoes, bib,
etc. could all be necessary, so is there a handy way to secure these
to the bike?

Get a large dipsoable nappy bag, stick your stuff in that and drop it in
a bush - nobody's going to look what's inside. :-)

Duncan Smith wrote:

I had to give up my driving license this week due a fields test of
below 120deg. Not the end of the world - as I wasn't using the car
all that much anyway, and now they'll be no more arguments over whose
turn it is to drive!

Struck me though that one thing cars are good for is driving to races/
events, for e.g. a cross country run 10M from home. Now I could cycle
that easy and still do the run (I've seen people with large wire
cables lock bikes up to trees, etc), but what to do with all the kit?
I'm reckoning (during winter) a lightset, coat, cycling shoes, bib,
etc. could all be necessary, so is there a handy way to secure these
to the bike?

I don't know if this is the sort of thing that might interest you, but
C+ recently had a mini-review of some lockable box-type cycle panniers,
similar in style to those one might find on a motorbike. I'll look into
it in more detail if you're interested.

Luke


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