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What's With Bottom Brackets?
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Many BB's now come with one cup made of plastic or carbon or some such material. These materials don't sound too durable, to me. What's the matter with cups being made of steel? Thanks! Phil |
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wrote in message oups.com... All, Many BB's now come with one cup made of plastic or carbon or some such material. These materials don't sound too durable, to me. What's the matter with cups being made of steel? Thanks! Phil With the drive-side threads actually part of the cartridge, the other side doesn't need a cup to be much more than a shim. It's not holding the cartridge in at all, it's mostly preventing it from moving up, down, back and forth. Plastic does the job well enough, and weighs and costs less. |
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the new all steel 5500 BB came in last week and ima pleased as gatorade
but i put a not delrin poly water bottle shim in bewteen the seat clamps ummmmm over a year ago ride every day take the seat off once a day a chunk fell of a few days ago that it - one chunk - wroks well in compression - no bending. |
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Phil who? writes:
Many BB's now come with one cup made of plastic or carbon or some such material. These materials don't sound too durable, to me. What's the matter with cups being made of steel? Well, how about what's wrong with plastic first? What the designers of these BB's seem not to understand is that plastic is PLASTIC and can flow with either heat or load or both. I believe these bearing cups/retainers are no better than the plastic ball and cup head bearings of the 1950's, that didn't suffer from fretting damage but flowed to the same result. The thinking was in the right direction but the solution wasn't up to the problem. If the loads are great enough to spall cups and spindles of old style 1/4" ball BB's, then I am sure the loads are too great for plastic bearing retainers. Jobst Brandt |
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"Peter Cole" wrote in message . .. wrote: All, Many BB's now come with one cup made of plastic or carbon or some such material. These materials don't sound too durable, to me. What's the matter with cups being made of steel? Thanks! Phil It's not the cup that's made of plastic, but the threaded bushing that supports the end of the cartridge. That is a perfect application for plastic. In practice, it will outlast the bearings and never corrode. And thus come out of the frame easily too ... and not stuff the threads if you don't get it started right. Skippy E&OE |
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i'd say its a technicallity having 1 side 'loose' provides safety against bending like they build bridges / on side is build on rollers (here in halland at least) still, plastic that comes loose by default is a bad design (I use gas tape to keep it stuck) On 21 Jun 2006 14:27:05 -0700, wrote: All, Many BB's now come with one cup made of plastic or carbon or some such material. These materials don't sound too durable, to me. What's the matter with cups being made of steel? Thanks! Phil |
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If the loads are great enough to spall cups and spindles of old style
1/4" ball BB's, then I am sure the loads are too great for plastic bearing retainers. Jobst Brandt Jobst: To the best of my knowledge, there are no commonly-available (on decent bikes) plastic bearing retainers in use. I believe the original poster is talking about a cartridge bottom bracket that's held in place, on one side, by a plastic threaded-in... cup? Retainer? I'm not sure what you call it, but I think you're familiar with what I'm talking about. Rarely do they cause any grief, but they're not found in anything very expensive (over $500) either. --Mike Jacoubowsky Chain Reaction Bicycles www.ChainReaction.com Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA wrote in message ... Phil who? writes: Many BB's now come with one cup made of plastic or carbon or some such material. These materials don't sound too durable, to me. What's the matter with cups being made of steel? Well, how about what's wrong with plastic first? What the designers of these BB's seem not to understand is that plastic is PLASTIC and can flow with either heat or load or both. I believe these bearing cups/retainers are no better than the plastic ball and cup head bearings of the 1950's, that didn't suffer from fretting damage but flowed to the same result. The thinking was in the right direction but the solution wasn't up to the problem. If the loads are great enough to spall cups and spindles of old style 1/4" ball BB's, then I am sure the loads are too great for plastic bearing retainers. Jobst Brandt |
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