The Great Don Quijote of RBM!

Andrew Muzi wrote:
"Ken the Troll" wrote:
...
I only vote for candidates who have a record of supporting cycling
friendly bills and programs while they had office. We can bitch all we
want of newsgroups like this, but unless we get active and elect
people who support our causes we will continue to get "Bike Route"
signs instead of designated bike lanes, paths, etc. and we will
continue to see our brothers and sisters killed by "distracted" ( -
"sun blinded" or what ever other excuse used to excuse the drivers who
use their two to six ton gas pigs to kill us) drivers.

Tom "Johnny Sunset" Sherman wrote:
Some of us do NOT view "designated bike lanes, paths, etc." as cyclist
friendly facilities (for reasons that have been posted very recently
on these groups, so I will not repeat the argument here).

What is needed are traditional grid neighborhoods, as opposed to
cul-de-sac dead ends emptying onto major arterials that characterize
so much of post-WW2 US suburban development, vigorous prosecution of
motorists who harass and/or strike cyclists, fuel taxes that reflect
the true cost of motor vehicle use, and lower overall population.

None of the above is easy to implement, since society at large is
ignorant of the potential benefits.

I agree with Tom. Twice today.

Progress!

Actually, besides economics, politics and recumbents, we probably
disagree on relatively few things.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

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On Aug 5, 3:03 pm, Ken the Troll wrote:
Unfortunately we have a President who rides a bicycle, but its a
mountain bike, which are ridden by people with a "macho" complex who
are more interested in tearing up the environment than protecting it.
He seems to prefer being hauled up to the top of a big hill and then
coasts his way down, much as he seems to have done in college and in
the university, and then calls that getting his exercise.

If you want a better President next time you have to 1) contribute to
those candidates that hold the same values as you do, 2) volunteer to
work on their local campaign staff and then try to influence you
neighbors, 3) vote in the primary or attend your caucus, 4) become a
delegate to the national convention of your party [I hope the hell it
isn't Republican - after 16 years of living under a Rethug government
in Michigan], 5) continue to campaign and contribute to the candidate
who is closest to your point of view, 6) vote early and then work with
your candidate's committee to get out the vote. If you don't do this
then don't complain about the people who get elected.

I only vote for candidates who have a record of supporting cycling
friendly bills and programs while they had office. We can bitch all we
want of newsgroups like this, but unless we get active and elect
people who support our causes we will continue to get "Bike Route"
signs instead of designated bike lanes, paths, etc. and we will
continue to see our brothers and sisters killed by "distracted" ( -
"sun blinded" or what ever other excuse used to excuse the drivers who
use their two to six ton gas pigs to kill us) drivers.

As Pogo used to say "We have met the enemy and it is us!"

Ken the Troll (living below - South - of the Mighty Mackinaw Bridge)

Hey Ken, not bad for a troll. Actually you have it all figured out.
Thanks!

On Aug 5, 3:24 pm, "Tom \"Johnny Sunset\" Sherman"
wrote:
"Ken the Troll" wrote:
...
I only vote for candidates who have a record of supporting cycling
friendly bills and programs while they had office. We can bitch all we
want of newsgroups like this, but unless we get active and elect
people who support our causes we will continue to get "Bike Route"
signs instead of designated bike lanes, paths, etc. and we will
continue to see our brothers and sisters killed by "distracted" ( -
"sun blinded" or what ever other excuse used to excuse the drivers who
use their two to six ton gas pigs to kill us) drivers.

Some of us do NOT view "designated bike lanes, paths, etc." as cyclist
friendly facilities (for reasons that have been posted very recently on
these groups, so I will not repeat the argument here).

What is needed are traditional grid neighborhoods, as opposed to
cul-de-sac dead ends emptying onto major arterials that characterize so
much of post-WW2 US suburban development, vigorous prosecution of
motorists who harass and/or strike cyclists, fuel taxes that reflect the
true cost of motor vehicle use, and lower overall population.

And how would you about getting rid of the Republicans? That would
leave us with something like, what 70% of the population by current
approval rates, right?

donquijote1954 wrote:
On Aug 5, 3:24 pm, "Tom \"Johnny Sunset\" Sherman"
wrote:
"Ken the Troll" wrote:
...
I only vote for candidates who have a record of supporting cycling
friendly bills and programs while they had office. We can bitch all
we want of newsgroups like this, but unless we get active and elect
people who support our causes we will continue to get "Bike Route"
signs instead of designated bike lanes, paths, etc. and we will
continue to see our brothers and sisters killed by "distracted" ( -
"sun blinded" or what ever other excuse used to excuse the drivers
who use their two to six ton gas pigs to kill us) drivers.

Some of us do NOT view "designated bike lanes, paths, etc." as
cyclist friendly facilities (for reasons that have been posted very
recently on these groups, so I will not repeat the argument here).

What is needed are traditional grid neighborhoods, as opposed to
cul-de-sac dead ends emptying onto major arterials that characterize
so much of post-WW2 US suburban development, vigorous prosecution of
motorists who harass and/or strike cyclists, fuel taxes that reflect
the true cost of motor vehicle use, and lower overall population.

And how would you about getting rid of the Republicans? That would
leave us with something like, what 70% of the population by current
approval rates, right?

http://www.pollingreport.com/cong_dem.htm

(And Congress on Iraq? THREE percent per Pew.)

"donquijote1954" wrote in message
ups.com...


And how would you about getting rid of the Republicans? That would
leave us with something like, what 70% of the population by current
approval rates, right?


Hmmmm.....How to go about getting rid of the republicans?

Being the wimpy peace and lovenik that you are I'm sure you wouldn't have
the personal courage for shooting them or herding them into gas chambers.
But maybe you could convince your illegal alien kindred spirit brothers
toiling away in the kitchens of America's restaurants to poison them. Or
failing that you surely should be able to convince the 70% Good People to
pass laws for mass republican sterilization. It would take longer than the
gas chambers for sure, but you would have your final solution in good time.

Hope this helps.

Keats (not Tom)

"still me" wrote in message
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On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 16:16:05 -0500, "Keats" wrote:

Hmmmm.....How to go about getting rid of the republicans?

Getting rid of the Republicans is easy. Just force them to practice
what they preach. So, let their kids play with the poisoned and unsafe
toys from China. Make them live in neighborhoods hopelessly polluted
by chemical manufacturers and industrial polluters. Make them breath
the air that comes from factories without pollution controls and
vehicles without emission controls. Make them drive cars with no
safety devices. As a second layer, eves drop on their conversations
without warrant or court oversight and when we decide it's right to
arrest them based on evidence we won't disclose, send them to Gutmo
Bay to be held until we decide what to do with them.

They'll all be gone in a generation.

So drinking USA water, breathing USA air, and driving USA cars is your idea
of a death sentence for republicans, eh?

And as far as sending republicans to Gutmo Bay is concerned (they must have
renamed it after Sicko's visit, lol), I've heard the medical care there is
just wonderful. Anyway the gentle souls of Gutmo Bay , in the zenith of
good health, are going to be loosed on the world quite soon. You will no
doubt be celebrating the occasion with your family and friends, yes?

(not Tom) Keats wrote:
...
And as far as sending republicans to Gutmo Bay is concerned (they must have
renamed it after Sicko's visit, lol), I've heard the medical care there is
just wonderful. Anyway the gentle souls of Gutmo Bay , in the zenith of
good health, are going to be loosed on the world quite soon. You will no
doubt be celebrating the occasion with your family and friends, yes?

Considering that most of the prisoners are there because someone turned
them in for fictional "terrorist activities" to collect bounty money, yes.

Hell, even Gates and Rice want the camp closed.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

"Keats" wrote:
Hmmmm.....How to go about getting rid of the republicans?

"still me" wrote in message
Getting rid of the Republicans is easy. Just force them to practice
what they preach. So, let their kids play with the poisoned and unsafe
toys from China. Make them live in neighborhoods hopelessly polluted
by chemical manufacturers and industrial polluters. Make them breath
the air that comes from factories without pollution controls and
vehicles without emission controls. Make them drive cars with no
safety devices. As a second layer, eves drop on their conversations
without warrant or court oversight and when we decide it's right to
arrest them based on evidence we won't disclose, send them to Gutmo
Bay to be held until we decide what to do with them.
They'll all be gone in a generation.

Keats wrote:
So drinking USA water, breathing USA air, and driving USA cars is your idea
of a death sentence for republicans, eh?
And as far as sending republicans to Gutmo Bay is concerned (they must have
renamed it after Sicko's visit, lol), I've heard the medical care there is
just wonderful. Anyway the gentle souls of Gutmo Bay , in the zenith of
good health, are going to be loosed on the world quite soon. You will no
doubt be celebrating the occasion with your family and friends, yes?


The poor wayward misunderstood waifs of deficient parentage who are now
getting sprung from Gitmo (Saudi cash + NYC attorneys) have a way of
ending up dead in firefights with Marines lately.

Good riddance but wish they could go with less risk to good men.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Andrew Muzi wrote:
"Keats" wrote:
Hmmmm.....How to go about getting rid of the republicans?

"still me" wrote in message
Getting rid of the Republicans is easy. Just force them to practice
what they preach. So, let their kids play with the poisoned and unsafe
toys from China. Make them live in neighborhoods hopelessly polluted
by chemical manufacturers and industrial polluters. Make them breath
the air that comes from factories without pollution controls and
vehicles without emission controls. Make them drive cars with no
safety devices. As a second layer, eves drop on their conversations
without warrant or court oversight and when we decide it's right to
arrest them based on evidence we won't disclose, send them to Gutmo
Bay to be held until we decide what to do with them.
They'll all be gone in a generation.

Keats wrote:
So drinking USA water, breathing USA air, and driving USA cars is your
idea of a death sentence for republicans, eh?
And as far as sending republicans to Gutmo Bay is concerned (they must
have renamed it after Sicko's visit, lol), I've heard the medical care
there is just wonderful. Anyway the gentle souls of Gutmo Bay , in
the zenith of good health, are going to be loosed on the world quite
soon. You will no doubt be celebrating the occasion with your family
and friends, yes?


The poor wayward misunderstood waifs of deficient parentage who are now
getting sprung from Gitmo (Saudi cash + NYC attorneys) have a way of
ending up dead in firefights with Marines lately.

Good riddance but wish they could go with less risk to good men.

If someone locked you up and tortured you for several years even though
you were innocent, would revenge cross your mind?

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

Tom "Johnny Sunset" Sherman wrote:
Andrew Muzi wrote:
"Keats" wrote:
Hmmmm.....How to go about getting rid of the republicans?

"still me" wrote in message
Getting rid of the Republicans is easy. Just force them to practice
what they preach. So, let their kids play with the poisoned and
unsafe toys from China. Make them live in neighborhoods hopelessly
polluted by chemical manufacturers and industrial polluters. Make
them breath the air that comes from factories without pollution
controls and vehicles without emission controls. Make them drive
cars with no safety devices. As a second layer, eves drop on their
conversations without warrant or court oversight and when we
decide it's right to arrest them based on evidence we won't
disclose, send them to Gutmo Bay to be held until we decide what
to do with them. They'll all be gone in a generation.

Keats wrote:
So drinking USA water, breathing USA air, and driving USA cars is
your idea of a death sentence for republicans, eh?
And as far as sending republicans to Gutmo Bay is concerned (they
must have renamed it after Sicko's visit, lol), I've heard the
medical care there is just wonderful. Anyway the gentle souls of
Gutmo Bay , in the zenith of good health, are going to be loosed on
the world quite soon. You will no doubt be celebrating the
occasion with your family and friends, yes?


The poor wayward misunderstood waifs of deficient parentage who are
now getting sprung from Gitmo (Saudi cash + NYC attorneys) have a
way of ending up dead in firefights with Marines lately.

Good riddance but wish they could go with less risk to good men.

If someone locked you up and tortured you for several years even
though you were innocent, would revenge cross your mind?

Tortured before or after their herbal wraps? LOL