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On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 03:35:32 -0700 (PDT), Derek C
wrote: On Jul 21, 11:29*am, "Just zis Guy, you know?" wrote: On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 02:15:47 -0700 (PDT), Derek C wrote: Unfortunately you see about three cyclists riding at night with no lights at all to every one who has them. FSVO "you". Where I ride, in London, I rarely see an unlit cyclist at night. Guy Perhaps this company might be able to help you: http://www.specsavers.co.uk/ Or perhaps you have, yet again, stated an opinion as fact. And yet again the opinion is apparently at odds with reality. And then, when called, resorted to ad hominem. Just to remind you: to justify your claim you need evidence published in a reputable source that states around 75% (or more) of cyclists are unlit at night. Guy -- http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk/ The usenet price promise: all opinions offered in newsgroups are guaranteed to be worth the price paid. |
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"Tosspot" wrote in message ... On 21/07/10 14:07, mileburner wrote: "Mrcheerful" wrote in message news:NHB1o.41600$AS4.31153@hurricane... mileburner wrote: Derek C wrote: Any bike that is being ridden in an illegal manner (no lights, RLJing, etc) should have a cyclist on board who can be stopped, identified and fined by the Police. Only problem is that this happens so rarely that it's not really a deterrent. I always carry a driver's licence with photo ID. so not a pure cyclist then? If you subscribe to Dougs bizarre idea of "pure cyclists" then no I am not. This idea is really a bit odd. Most adult cyclists also drive too. Something that the Cheesebrains around here forget. Cyclists are usually drivers, drivers are not usually cyclists. That is one of the reasons why standards of driving is so ****ing abysmal. |
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Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 03:35:32 -0700 (PDT), Derek C wrote: On Jul 21, 11:29 am, "Just zis Guy, you know?" wrote: On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 02:15:47 -0700 (PDT), Derek C wrote: Unfortunately you see about three cyclists riding at night with no lights at all to every one who has them. FSVO "you". Where I ride, in London, I rarely see an unlit cyclist at night. Guy Perhaps this company might be able to help you: http://www.specsavers.co.uk/ Or perhaps you have, yet again, stated an opinion as fact. And yet again the opinion is apparently at odds with reality. And then, when called, resorted to ad hominem. Just to remind you: to justify your claim you need evidence published in a reputable source that states around 75% (or more) of cyclists are unlit at night. Guy ah, the old cyclists ploy: it is anecdotal. certainly I make a mental note when I see a cycle WITH lights on at night, because it is such a rare event. simply because there are no written statistics to back that up does not make it untrue. Take a walk in the late evening to find your own areas statistics. |
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Mrcheerful wrote:
Just zis Guy, you know? wrote: On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 03:35:32 -0700 (PDT), Derek C wrote: On Jul 21, 11:29 am, "Just zis Guy, you know?" wrote: On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 02:15:47 -0700 (PDT), Derek C wrote: Unfortunately you see about three cyclists riding at night with no lights at all to every one who has them. FSVO "you". Where I ride, in London, I rarely see an unlit cyclist at night. Guy Perhaps this company might be able to help you: http://www.specsavers.co.uk/ Or perhaps you have, yet again, stated an opinion as fact. And yet again the opinion is apparently at odds with reality. And then, when called, resorted to ad hominem. Just to remind you: to justify your claim you need evidence published in a reputable source that states around 75% (or more) of cyclists are unlit at night. Guy ah, the old cyclists ploy: it is anecdotal. certainly I make a mental note when I see a cycle WITH lights on at night, because it is such a rare event. simply because there are no written statistics to back that up does not make it untrue. Take a walk in the late evening to find your own areas statistics. police in oxford stopped and fined 84 cyclists within three hours for riding without lights at night, so that shows what a large amount of unlit bikes there are there. police in brighton found it quite difficult to stop this bloke who kept trying to get away, knowing that he was unidentifiable, when they got him he was fined 700 quid for RLJ, no lights, failing to stop for an officer, riding on the pavement: all typical cyclist stuff.: http://road.cc/content/news/16542-cy...ping-red-light |
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Mrcheerful wrote:
Mrcheerful wrote: Just zis Guy, you know? wrote: On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 03:35:32 -0700 (PDT), Derek C wrote: On Jul 21, 11:29 am, "Just zis Guy, you know?" wrote: On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 02:15:47 -0700 (PDT), Derek C wrote: Unfortunately you see about three cyclists riding at night with no lights at all to every one who has them. FSVO "you". Where I ride, in London, I rarely see an unlit cyclist at night. Guy Perhaps this company might be able to help you: http://www.specsavers.co.uk/ Or perhaps you have, yet again, stated an opinion as fact. And yet again the opinion is apparently at odds with reality. And then, when called, resorted to ad hominem. Just to remind you: to justify your claim you need evidence published in a reputable source that states around 75% (or more) of cyclists are unlit at night. Guy ah, the old cyclists ploy: it is anecdotal. certainly I make a mental note when I see a cycle WITH lights on at night, because it is such a rare event. simply because there are no written statistics to back that up does not make it untrue. Take a walk in the late evening to find your own areas statistics. police in oxford stopped and fined 84 cyclists within three hours for riding without lights at night, so that shows what a large amount of unlit bikes there are there. police in brighton found it quite difficult to stop this bloke who kept trying to get away, knowing that he was unidentifiable, when they got him he was fined 700 quid for RLJ, no lights, failing to stop for an officer, riding on the pavement: all typical cyclist stuff.: http://road.cc/content/news/16542-cy...ping-red-light and a US study found that 56 per cent of adult cycle fatalities involved bicycles without lights at night: http://www.kenkifer.com/bikepages/health/risks.htm |
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"Mrcheerful" wrote in message news:PhE1o.41919$AS4.24042@hurricane... police in brighton found it quite difficult to stop this bloke who kept trying to get away, knowing that he was unidentifiable, when they got him he was fined 700 quid for RLJ, no lights, failing to stop for an officer, riding on the pavement: all typical cyclist stuff.: http://road.cc/content/news/16542-cy...ping-red-light So typical it made the news swoon |
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mileburner wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote in message news:PhE1o.41919$AS4.24042@hurricane... police in brighton found it quite difficult to stop this bloke who kept trying to get away, knowing that he was unidentifiable, when they got him he was fined 700 quid for RLJ, no lights, failing to stop for an officer, riding on the pavement: all typical cyclist stuff.: http://road.cc/content/news/16542-cy...ping-red-light So typical it made the news swoon the unusual part is that they actually tried to, and did, get him. |
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On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:29:59 +0100, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
wrote: On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 02:15:47 -0700 (PDT), Derek C wrote: On Jul 21, 9:40*am, "Mrcheerful" wrote: when will cycles be regulated properly? *they need it for their own protection if they are going to continue being this stupidhttp://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/s/2074402_cyclist_killed_in_latenight... Unfortunately you see about three cyclists riding at night with no lights at all to every one who has them. FSVO "you". Where I ride, in London, I rarely see an unlit cyclist at night. I regularly see unlit cyclists at night, but more often than not they are riding slowly on the pavement. |
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Mrcheerful wrote:
police in oxford stopped and fined 84 cyclists within three hours for riding without lights at night, so that shows what a large amount of unlit bikes there are there. Do you know just how many cyclists there are in Oxford? I think you might find 28 an hour a rather small proportion of the cyclists there. -- Tony " I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong." Bertrand Russell |
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