Tube shortage supposed to ease in September.

On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 12:00:55 PM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote:
On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 4:01:46 AM UTC+2, jbeattie wrote:

BIKE RELATED CONTENT! Is that Slime glue any good compared to Rema fluid? It is supposed to be a cold vulcanizing fluid labeled as rubber cement, or so I'm told. It's cheap -- and there are some other cold vulcanizing fluids that aren't as expensive as Rema. Is anyone using an off-brand?

-- Jay Beattie.

Wow is it so bad that you have cut back on rubber cement? How much do you use? One or two small tubes a year? Getting cheaper ones will save you a lot ;-)

Lou

I was going to get an 8oz can for bulk tube repairs. I can handle the price difference, but Slime is also easier to get locally, as are other rubber cements.

-- Jay Beattie.

On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 10:30:05 PM UTC+2, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 12:00:55 PM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote:
On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 4:01:46 AM UTC+2, jbeattie wrote:

BIKE RELATED CONTENT! Is that Slime glue any good compared to Rema fluid? It is supposed to be a cold vulcanizing fluid labeled as rubber cement, or so I'm told. It's cheap -- and there are some other cold vulcanizing fluids that aren't as expensive as Rema. Is anyone using an off-brand?

-- Jay Beattie.

Wow is it so bad that you have cut back on rubber cement? How much do you use? One or two small tubes a year? Getting cheaper ones will save you a lot ;-)

Lou

I was going to get an 8oz can for bulk tube repairs. I can handle the price difference, but Slime is also easier to get locally, as are other rubber cements.

-- Jay Beattie.

Okay... I don't think that in my whole cycling 'career' I used 236 ml rubber cement. I converted Mickey Mouse units into grown up units.

Lou

On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 13:30:00 -0700 (PDT), jbeattie
wrote:

On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 12:00:55 PM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote:
On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 4:01:46 AM UTC+2, jbeattie wrote:

BIKE RELATED CONTENT! Is that Slime glue any good compared to Rema fluid? It is supposed to be a cold vulcanizing fluid labeled as rubber cement, or so I'm told. It's cheap -- and there are some other cold vulcanizing fluids that aren't as expensive as Rema. Is anyone using an off-brand?

-- Jay Beattie.

Wow is it so bad that you have cut back on rubber cement? How much do you use? One or two small tubes a year? Getting cheaper ones will save you a lot ;-)

Lou

I was going to get an 8oz can for bulk tube repairs. I can handle the price difference, but Slime is also easier to get locally, as are other rubber cements.

-- Jay Beattie.

My experience with large cans of "rubber cement" has been that almost
without fail by the second time I need some it has almost solidified
and I have to go and buy another can. So I have confined myself to
using smaller containers - small tubes - and use one and then throw it
away and thus always have a freshly opened batch when I come to use
it.

Are you busting tubes so frequently that you have to repair them "in
bulk" or are you embarking on a new career?
--
Cheers,

John B.

On 8/18/2020 6:11 PM, John B. wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 13:30:00 -0700 (PDT), jbeattie
wrote:

On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 12:00:55 PM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote:
On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 4:01:46 AM UTC+2, jbeattie wrote:

BIKE RELATED CONTENT! Is that Slime glue any good compared to Rema fluid? It is supposed to be a cold vulcanizing fluid labeled as rubber cement, or so I'm told. It's cheap -- and there are some other cold vulcanizing fluids that aren't as expensive as Rema. Is anyone using an off-brand?

-- Jay Beattie.

Wow is it so bad that you have cut back on rubber cement? How much do you use? One or two small tubes a year? Getting cheaper ones will save you a lot ;-)

Lou

I was going to get an 8oz can for bulk tube repairs. I can handle the price difference, but Slime is also easier to get locally, as are other rubber cements.

-- Jay Beattie.

My experience with large cans of "rubber cement" has been that almost
without fail by the second time I need some it has almost solidified
and I have to go and buy another can. So I have confined myself to
using smaller containers - small tubes - and use one and then throw it
away and thus always have a freshly opened batch when I come to use
it.

Are you busting tubes so frequently that you have to repair them "in
bulk" or are you embarking on a new career?
--
Cheers,

John B.



We just use the small Rema cement from a Rema kit when a
patch is necessary[1] Always fresh.

The header 'tube shortage' is more apt than you know. I
needed eight feet of one inch tube and gave up after a
couple of days' search. I even checked with our aircraft
CrMo tube supplier in Kansas. Zip. None to be had. Ended up
using a piece of one inch solid coldroll which worked for
the (not bicycle) project and only $20 more,

[1] When I was young and patched two dozen tubes a day,
every day, tubes were $2 and a mechanic was $1.20 per hour.
SV tubes are $4.95 now and mechanics are very expensive.
Even the 250ml Tech cement we used then would dry out before
we used it now as we only patch things which cannot be
replaced, maybe 6~8 patches per year in the shop.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On 8/18/2020 8:34 PM, AMuzi wrote:

The header 'tube shortage' is more apt than you know. I needed eight
feet of one inch tube and gave up after a couple of days' search. I even
checked with our aircraft CrMo tube supplier in Kansas. Zip. None to be
had. Ended up using a piece of one inch solid coldroll which worked for
the (not bicycle) project and only $20 more,


McMaster-Carr seems to have plenty in six foot lengths, various gages
and strengths. For example:
https://www.mcmaster.com/7767T151/

I'd think you could easily weld or braze them for more length. Am I
missing something?

--
- Frank Krygowski

On 8/18/2020 8:16 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 8/18/2020 8:34 PM, AMuzi wrote:

The header 'tube shortage' is more apt than you know. I
needed eight feet of one inch tube and gave up after a
couple of days' search. I even checked with our aircraft
CrMo tube supplier in Kansas. Zip. None to be had. Ended
up using a piece of one inch solid coldroll which worked
for the (not bicycle) project and only $20 more,


McMaster-Carr seems to have plenty in six foot lengths,
various gages and strengths. For example:
https://www.mcmaster.com/7767T151/

I'd think you could easily weld or braze them for more
length. Am I missing something?



Possible but 'just one more problem'.

An 8' coldroll at a steel yard 20 minutes away added $20 and
I couldn't sleeve and splice it for that.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 5:34:49 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/18/2020 6:11 PM, John B. wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 13:30:00 -0700 (PDT), jbeattie
wrote:

On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 12:00:55 PM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote:
On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 4:01:46 AM UTC+2, jbeattie wrote:

BIKE RELATED CONTENT! Is that Slime glue any good compared to Rema fluid? It is supposed to be a cold vulcanizing fluid labeled as rubber cement, or so I'm told. It's cheap -- and there are some other cold vulcanizing fluids that aren't as expensive as Rema. Is anyone using an off-brand?

-- Jay Beattie.

Wow is it so bad that you have cut back on rubber cement? How much do you use? One or two small tubes a year? Getting cheaper ones will save you a lot ;-)

Lou

I was going to get an 8oz can for bulk tube repairs. I can handle the price difference, but Slime is also easier to get locally, as are other rubber cements.

-- Jay Beattie.

My experience with large cans of "rubber cement" has been that almost
without fail by the second time I need some it has almost solidified
and I have to go and buy another can. So I have confined myself to
using smaller containers - small tubes - and use one and then throw it
away and thus always have a freshly opened batch when I come to use
it.

Are you busting tubes so frequently that you have to repair them "in
bulk" or are you embarking on a new career?
--
Cheers,

John B.



We just use the small Rema cement from a Rema kit when a
patch is necessary[1] Always fresh.

The header 'tube shortage' is more apt than you know. I
needed eight feet of one inch tube and gave up after a
couple of days' search. I even checked with our aircraft
CrMo tube supplier in Kansas. Zip. None to be had. Ended up
using a piece of one inch solid coldroll which worked for
the (not bicycle) project and only $20 more,

[1] When I was young and patched two dozen tubes a day,
every day, tubes were $2 and a mechanic was $1.20 per hour.
SV tubes are $4.95 now and mechanics are very expensive.
Even the 250ml Tech cement we used then would dry out before
we used it now as we only patch things which cannot be
replaced, maybe 6~8 patches per year in the shop.

Wow! Do you just toss tubes or do they go to adoptive homes?

-- Jay Beattie.

On 8/18/2020 9:49 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 5:34:49 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/18/2020 6:11 PM, John B. wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 13:30:00 -0700 (PDT), jbeattie
wrote:

On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 12:00:55 PM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote:
On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 4:01:46 AM UTC+2, jbeattie wrote:

BIKE RELATED CONTENT! Is that Slime glue any good compared to Rema fluid? It is supposed to be a cold vulcanizing fluid labeled as rubber cement, or so I'm told. It's cheap -- and there are some other cold vulcanizing fluids that aren't as expensive as Rema. Is anyone using an off-brand?

-- Jay Beattie.

Wow is it so bad that you have cut back on rubber cement? How much do you use? One or two small tubes a year? Getting cheaper ones will save you a lot ;-)

Lou

I was going to get an 8oz can for bulk tube repairs. I can handle the price difference, but Slime is also easier to get locally, as are other rubber cements.

-- Jay Beattie.

My experience with large cans of "rubber cement" has been that almost
without fail by the second time I need some it has almost solidified
and I have to go and buy another can. So I have confined myself to
using smaller containers - small tubes - and use one and then throw it
away and thus always have a freshly opened batch when I come to use
it.

Are you busting tubes so frequently that you have to repair them "in
bulk" or are you embarking on a new career?
--
Cheers,

John B.



We just use the small Rema cement from a Rema kit when a
patch is necessary[1] Always fresh.

The header 'tube shortage' is more apt than you know. I
needed eight feet of one inch tube and gave up after a
couple of days' search. I even checked with our aircraft
CrMo tube supplier in Kansas. Zip. None to be had. Ended up
using a piece of one inch solid coldroll which worked for
the (not bicycle) project and only $20 more,

[1] When I was young and patched two dozen tubes a day,
every day, tubes were $2 and a mechanic was $1.20 per hour.
SV tubes are $4.95 now and mechanics are very expensive.
Even the 250ml Tech cement we used then would dry out before
we used it now as we only patch things which cannot be
replaced, maybe 6~8 patches per year in the shop.

Wow! Do you just toss tubes or do they go to adoptive homes?

-- Jay Beattie.


We plce them carefully in the 'adopt a tube' pile until they
go to the recycling center.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On 8/18/2020 9:44 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/18/2020 8:16 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 8/18/2020 8:34 PM, AMuzi wrote:

The header 'tube shortage' is more apt than you know. I
needed eight feet of one inch tube and gave up after a
couple of days' search. I even checked with our aircraft
CrMo tube supplier in Kansas. Zip. None to be had. Ended
up using a piece of one inch solid coldroll which worked
for the (not bicycle) project and only $20 more,


McMaster-Carr seems to have plenty in six foot lengths,
various gages and strengths. For example:
https://www.mcmaster.com/7767T151/

I'd think you could easily weld or braze them for more
length. Am I missing something?



Possible but 'just one more problem'.

An 8' coldroll at a steel yard 20 minutes away added $20 and I couldn't
sleeve and splice it for that.

I don't doubt your cold rolled bar worked for you. I was just addressing
the "none to be had" comment.


--
- Frank Krygowski

On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 12:11:09 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 8/18/2020 9:44 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/18/2020 8:16 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 8/18/2020 8:34 PM, AMuzi wrote:

The header 'tube shortage' is more apt than you know. I
needed eight feet of one inch tube and gave up after a
couple of days' search. I even checked with our aircraft
CrMo tube supplier in Kansas. Zip. None to be had. Ended
up using a piece of one inch solid coldroll which worked
for the (not bicycle) project and only $20 more,


McMaster-Carr seems to have plenty in six foot lengths,
various gages and strengths. For example:
https://www.mcmaster.com/7767T151/

I'd think you could easily weld or braze them for more
length. Am I missing something?



Possible but 'just one more problem'.

An 8' coldroll at a steel yard 20 minutes away added $20 and I couldn't
sleeve and splice it for that.

I don't doubt your cold rolled bar worked for you. I was just addressing
the "none to be had" comment.

But did the guy try a bicycle tube seller?
--

Cheers,

John B.