Tube shortage supposed to ease in September.

On 8/19/2020 5:41 PM, John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 12:11:09 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 8/18/2020 9:44 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/18/2020 8:16 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 8/18/2020 8:34 PM, AMuzi wrote:

The header 'tube shortage' is more apt than you know. I
needed eight feet of one inch tube and gave up after a
couple of days' search. I even checked with our aircraft
CrMo tube supplier in Kansas. Zip. None to be had. Ended
up using a piece of one inch solid coldroll which worked
for the (not bicycle) project and only $20 more,


McMaster-Carr seems to have plenty in six foot lengths,
various gages and strengths. For example:
https://www.mcmaster.com/7767T151/

I'd think you could easily weld or braze them for more
length. Am I missing something?



Possible but 'just one more problem'.

An 8' coldroll at a steel yard 20 minutes away added $20 and I couldn't
sleeve and splice it for that.

I don't doubt your cold rolled bar worked for you. I was just addressing
the "none to be had" comment.

But did the guy try a bicycle tube seller?
--

Cheers,

John B.


There are no branded bicycle tubes in 8-foot increments.
We use an aircraft tube supplier for unusual gauges, aero
shapes and unusual lengths, but many things are in disarray
in many markets at the moment.

My point was, 'not only bicycle inner tubes'.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 18:05:56 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 8/19/2020 5:41 PM, John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 12:11:09 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 8/18/2020 9:44 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/18/2020 8:16 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 8/18/2020 8:34 PM, AMuzi wrote:

The header 'tube shortage' is more apt than you know. I
needed eight feet of one inch tube and gave up after a
couple of days' search. I even checked with our aircraft
CrMo tube supplier in Kansas. Zip. None to be had. Ended
up using a piece of one inch solid coldroll which worked
for the (not bicycle) project and only $20 more,


McMaster-Carr seems to have plenty in six foot lengths,
various gages and strengths. For example:
https://www.mcmaster.com/7767T151/

I'd think you could easily weld or braze them for more
length. Am I missing something?



Possible but 'just one more problem'.

An 8' coldroll at a steel yard 20 minutes away added $20 and I couldn't
sleeve and splice it for that.

I don't doubt your cold rolled bar worked for you. I was just addressing
the "none to be had" comment.

But did the guy try a bicycle tube seller?
--

Cheers,

John B.


There are no branded bicycle tubes in 8-foot increments.
We use an aircraft tube supplier for unusual gauges, aero
shapes and unusual lengths, but many things are in disarray
in many markets at the moment.

My point was, 'not only bicycle inner tubes'.

I suppose I was assuming that a "header tube shortage" was in
reference to specific bicycle tubing something like Columbus tubing,
or similar.
--

Cheers,

John B.

On Monday, August 17, 2020 at 3:26:05 PM UTC-7, sms wrote:
Last week I received an e-mail that said that major tube manufacturers
should have tubes back in stock in September. Most stores and online
sellers are out of stock on a lot of tube sizes.

Right now you can see how there are sellers really gouging for no-name
tubes on Amazon. A Schwalbe tube on eBay can go for $20.

At least there are now plenty of masks, rolls of toilet paper, and
bottles of hand sanitizer.
I suppose the masks are to hide your face while they're robbing you in the supermarket. They have no other use.

On Monday, August 17, 2020 at 7:01:46 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, August 17, 2020 at 5:34:11 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/17/2020 6:23 PM, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 17 Aug 2020 15:25:59 -0700, sms
wrote:

Last week I received an e-mail that said that major tube manufacturers
should have tubes back in stock in September. Most stores and online
sellers are out of stock on a lot of tube sizes.

Right now you can see how there are sellers really gouging for no-name
tubes on Amazon. A Schwalbe tube on eBay can go for $20.

At least there are now plenty of masks, rolls of toilet paper, and
bottles of hand sanitizer.

That is something I've wondered about. Shortages of toilet paper in
the U.S. as while I'm not usually greatly interested in toilet paper
on the supermarket shelves the mention here did prompt me to look and
in two major supermarkets here there were whole isles dedicated to
toilet paper.

Do USians use more toilet paper then we do here? Bigger behind? (The
term "Horse's Ass" does come to mind here) Or is it that toilet paper
is imported from China and The Golden Boy's efforts in provoking the
Yellow Peril led to a shortage of this desperately needed product?
--
Cheers,

John B.


There wasn't a shortage so much as a misallocation. Half the
product was in offices, schools, restaurants and their
suppliers of institutional package TP. A local grocery
bought toms of that bulk pack product, rewrapped and priced
it and was never out. Others weren't so creative.

See also beer kegs. There was a billion dollars worth of
beer in kegs stranded in various arenas, bars, clubs and
wholesale warehouses which went bad. The beer was a loss but
the brewers mostly wanted their $100+ each kegs back. That
took a while.
The toilet paper shortage in Portland was caused by hoarding and occurred before the stay at home order. All sorts of staples were hoarded. Long before I started working from home, buying a bag of rice was difficult.

I'm hoping there is a tube glut when the plague is over because even before the shortage, prices were too high -- and now they're ridiculous.

BIKE RELATED CONTENT! Is that Slime glue any good compared to Rema fluid? It is supposed to be a cold vulcanizing fluid labeled as rubber cement, or so I'm told. It's cheap -- and there are some other cold vulcanizing fluids that aren't as expensive as Rema. Is anyone using an off-brand?

-- Jay Beattie.
I don't know anything about Slime and can't see that it would work very well since the entire idea is for it to block leaks so it would have to set up rapidly.

On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 2:21:29 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 10:30:05 PM UTC+2, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 12:00:55 PM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote:
On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 at 4:01:46 AM UTC+2, jbeattie wrote:

BIKE RELATED CONTENT! Is that Slime glue any good compared to Rema fluid? It is supposed to be a cold vulcanizing fluid labeled as rubber cement, or so I'm told. It's cheap -- and there are some other cold vulcanizing fluids that aren't as expensive as Rema. Is anyone using an off-brand?

-- Jay Beattie.

Wow is it so bad that you have cut back on rubber cement? How much do you use? One or two small tubes a year? Getting cheaper ones will save you a lot ;-)

Lou

I was going to get an 8oz can for bulk tube repairs. I can handle the price difference, but Slime is also easier to get locally, as are other rubber cements.

-- Jay Beattie.
Okay... I don't think that in my whole cycling 'career' I used 236 ml rubber cement. I converted Mickey Mouse units into grown up units.

Lou
Werth, Elmers and Rema sell large containers of rubber cement that is the same stuff in the little tubes. These used to be sitting around bicycle shops all the time so that you could come in and patch your tube.

On 8/20/2020 6:56 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Monday, August 17, 2020 at 3:26:05 PM UTC-7, sms wrote:
Last week I received an e-mail that said that major tube manufacturers
should have tubes back in stock in September. Most stores and online
sellers are out of stock on a lot of tube sizes.

Right now you can see how there are sellers really gouging for no-name
tubes on Amazon. A Schwalbe tube on eBay can go for $20.

At least there are now plenty of masks, rolls of toilet paper, and
bottles of hand sanitizer.
I suppose the masks are to hide your face while they're robbing you in the supermarket. They have no other use.


Perennially popular with bank robbers too:

https://www.cityofmadison.com/police...t.cfm?id=26845

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On 8/20/2020 6:58 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Monday, August 17, 2020 at 7:01:46 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, August 17, 2020 at 5:34:11 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/17/2020 6:23 PM, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 17 Aug 2020 15:25:59 -0700, sms
wrote:

Last week I received an e-mail that said that major tube manufacturers
should have tubes back in stock in September. Most stores and online
sellers are out of stock on a lot of tube sizes.

Right now you can see how there are sellers really gouging for no-name
tubes on Amazon. A Schwalbe tube on eBay can go for $20.

At least there are now plenty of masks, rolls of toilet paper, and
bottles of hand sanitizer.

That is something I've wondered about. Shortages of toilet paper in
the U.S. as while I'm not usually greatly interested in toilet paper
on the supermarket shelves the mention here did prompt me to look and
in two major supermarkets here there were whole isles dedicated to
toilet paper.

Do USians use more toilet paper then we do here? Bigger behind? (The
term "Horse's Ass" does come to mind here) Or is it that toilet paper
is imported from China and The Golden Boy's efforts in provoking the
Yellow Peril led to a shortage of this desperately needed product?
--
Cheers,

John B.


There wasn't a shortage so much as a misallocation. Half the
product was in offices, schools, restaurants and their
suppliers of institutional package TP. A local grocery
bought toms of that bulk pack product, rewrapped and priced
it and was never out. Others weren't so creative.

See also beer kegs. There was a billion dollars worth of
beer in kegs stranded in various arenas, bars, clubs and
wholesale warehouses which went bad. The beer was a loss but
the brewers mostly wanted their $100+ each kegs back. That
took a while.
The toilet paper shortage in Portland was caused by hoarding and occurred before the stay at home order. All sorts of staples were hoarded. Long before I started working from home, buying a bag of rice was difficult.

I'm hoping there is a tube glut when the plague is over because even before the shortage, prices were too high -- and now they're ridiculous.

BIKE RELATED CONTENT! Is that Slime glue any good compared to Rema fluid? It is supposed to be a cold vulcanizing fluid labeled as rubber cement, or so I'm told. It's cheap -- and there are some other cold vulcanizing fluids that aren't as expensive as Rema. Is anyone using an off-brand?

-- Jay Beattie.
I don't know anything about Slime and can't see that it would work very well since the entire idea is for it to block leaks so it would have to set up rapidly.


Slime's main feature is the $25 cleanup charge mechanics add
to a tire change.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Thursday, August 20, 2020 at 4:58:56 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Monday, August 17, 2020 at 7:01:46 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, August 17, 2020 at 5:34:11 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/17/2020 6:23 PM, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 17 Aug 2020 15:25:59 -0700, sms
wrote:

Last week I received an e-mail that said that major tube manufacturers
should have tubes back in stock in September. Most stores and online
sellers are out of stock on a lot of tube sizes.

Right now you can see how there are sellers really gouging for no-name
tubes on Amazon. A Schwalbe tube on eBay can go for $20.

At least there are now plenty of masks, rolls of toilet paper, and
bottles of hand sanitizer.

That is something I've wondered about. Shortages of toilet paper in
the U.S. as while I'm not usually greatly interested in toilet paper
on the supermarket shelves the mention here did prompt me to look and
in two major supermarkets here there were whole isles dedicated to
toilet paper.

Do USians use more toilet paper then we do here? Bigger behind? (The
term "Horse's Ass" does come to mind here) Or is it that toilet paper
is imported from China and The Golden Boy's efforts in provoking the
Yellow Peril led to a shortage of this desperately needed product?
--
Cheers,

John B.


There wasn't a shortage so much as a misallocation. Half the
product was in offices, schools, restaurants and their
suppliers of institutional package TP. A local grocery
bought toms of that bulk pack product, rewrapped and priced
it and was never out. Others weren't so creative.

See also beer kegs. There was a billion dollars worth of
beer in kegs stranded in various arenas, bars, clubs and
wholesale warehouses which went bad. The beer was a loss but
the brewers mostly wanted their $100+ each kegs back. That
took a while.
The toilet paper shortage in Portland was caused by hoarding and occurred before the stay at home order. All sorts of staples were hoarded. Long before I started working from home, buying a bag of rice was difficult.

I'm hoping there is a tube glut when the plague is over because even before the shortage, prices were too high -- and now they're ridiculous.

BIKE RELATED CONTENT! Is that Slime glue any good compared to Rema fluid? It is supposed to be a cold vulcanizing fluid labeled as rubber cement, or so I'm told. It's cheap -- and there are some other cold vulcanizing fluids that aren't as expensive as Rema. Is anyone using an off-brand?

-- Jay Beattie.
I don't know anything about Slime and can't see that it would work very well since the entire idea is for it to block leaks so it would have to set up rapidly.

I'm talking about their rubber cement and not sealant gunk. https://tinyurl..com/y5dgwtls It has a lot of volatiles and seems to be a vulcanizing fluid -- or what we call a vulcanizing fluid.

-- Jay Beattie.

On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 18:22:42 -0700 (PDT), jbeattie
wrote:

On Thursday, August 20, 2020 at 4:58:56 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Monday, August 17, 2020 at 7:01:46 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, August 17, 2020 at 5:34:11 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/17/2020 6:23 PM, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 17 Aug 2020 15:25:59 -0700, sms
wrote:

Last week I received an e-mail that said that major tube manufacturers
should have tubes back in stock in September. Most stores and online
sellers are out of stock on a lot of tube sizes.

Right now you can see how there are sellers really gouging for no-name
tubes on Amazon. A Schwalbe tube on eBay can go for $20.

At least there are now plenty of masks, rolls of toilet paper, and
bottles of hand sanitizer.

That is something I've wondered about. Shortages of toilet paper in
the U.S. as while I'm not usually greatly interested in toilet paper
on the supermarket shelves the mention here did prompt me to look and
in two major supermarkets here there were whole isles dedicated to
toilet paper.

Do USians use more toilet paper then we do here? Bigger behind? (The
term "Horse's Ass" does come to mind here) Or is it that toilet paper
is imported from China and The Golden Boy's efforts in provoking the
Yellow Peril led to a shortage of this desperately needed product?
--
Cheers,

John B.


There wasn't a shortage so much as a misallocation. Half the
product was in offices, schools, restaurants and their
suppliers of institutional package TP. A local grocery
bought toms of that bulk pack product, rewrapped and priced
it and was never out. Others weren't so creative.

See also beer kegs. There was a billion dollars worth of
beer in kegs stranded in various arenas, bars, clubs and
wholesale warehouses which went bad. The beer was a loss but
the brewers mostly wanted their $100+ each kegs back. That
took a while.
The toilet paper shortage in Portland was caused by hoarding and occurred before the stay at home order. All sorts of staples were hoarded. Long before I started working from home, buying a bag of rice was difficult.

I'm hoping there is a tube glut when the plague is over because even before the shortage, prices were too high -- and now they're ridiculous.

BIKE RELATED CONTENT! Is that Slime glue any good compared to Rema fluid? It is supposed to be a cold vulcanizing fluid labeled as rubber cement, or so I'm told. It's cheap -- and there are some other cold vulcanizing fluids that aren't as expensive as Rema. Is anyone using an off-brand?

-- Jay Beattie.
I don't know anything about Slime and can't see that it would work very well since the entire idea is for it to block leaks so it would have to set up rapidly.

I'm talking about their rubber cement and not sealant gunk. https://tinyurl.com/y5dgwtls It has a lot of volatiles and seems to be a vulcanizing fluid -- or what we call a vulcanizing fluid.

-- Jay Beattie.

For whatever it is worth I notice that the "glue" contained in the
Slime tube repair kits is labeled "Rubber Cement"
https://shop.slime.com/collections/bike-accessories
--

Cheers,

John B.