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Old April 18th 04, 02:52 PM
Zog The Undeniable
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Richard Goodman wrote:

"Iain Jones" wrote in message
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Each morning going to work I pass about 5 buses. £1.20 saved and five
minutes faster. I love it!



Perhaps the OP meant when you're drafting


Oh, yes, I used to do that in my youth. It's quite exciting provided
the driver doesn't know you're there. If he/she realises, you're toast
when they hit the brakes.
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Old April 18th 04, 03:54 PM
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"Zog The Undeniable" wrote in message
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Richard Goodman wrote:

"Iain Jones" wrote in message
52.50...


Each morning going to work I pass about 5 buses. £1.20 saved and five
minutes faster. I love it!



Perhaps the OP meant when you're drafting


Oh, yes, I used to do that in my youth. It's quite exciting provided
the driver doesn't know you're there. If he/she realises, you're toast
when they hit the brakes.


Well, one can never discount the possibility of an emergency stop I suppose,
but I can't imagine any driver with passengers on board, some of whom will
be standing, deliberately hitting the brakes very hard just for the specific
purpose of causing problems to a drafting cyclist.

Rich



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Old April 18th 04, 03:54 PM
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"Zog The Undeniable" wrote in message
news:40828838.0@entanet...
Richard Goodman wrote:

"Iain Jones" wrote in message
52.50...


Each morning going to work I pass about 5 buses. £1.20 saved and five
minutes faster. I love it!



Perhaps the OP meant when you're drafting


Oh, yes, I used to do that in my youth. It's quite exciting provided
the driver doesn't know you're there. If he/she realises, you're toast
when they hit the brakes.


Well, one can never discount the possibility of an emergency stop I suppose,
but I can't imagine any driver with passengers on board, some of whom will
be standing, deliberately hitting the brakes very hard just for the specific
purpose of causing problems to a drafting cyclist.

Rich



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Old April 18th 04, 04:08 PM
Iain Jones
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"Richard Goodman" wrote in
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"Iain Jones" wrote in message
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Peter Fox wrote
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Joy of the Journey

* Speed of commute

[Website:] Buses and cycles go about the same speed in towns


Each morning going to work I pass about 5 buses. £1.20 saved and five
minutes faster. I love it!


Perhaps the OP meant when you're drafting Overall I would beat a
bus over the same route by a long way on my commute, but between stops
there's often an opportunity to travel at the same speed .

Rich



I've tried drafting but on my route to work there's a bus stop every 100
yards which spoils my fun :-(
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Old April 18th 04, 04:08 PM
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"Richard Goodman" wrote in
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"Iain Jones" wrote in message
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Peter Fox wrote
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Joy of the Journey

* Speed of commute

[Website:] Buses and cycles go about the same speed in towns


Each morning going to work I pass about 5 buses. £1.20 saved and five
minutes faster. I love it!


Perhaps the OP meant when you're drafting Overall I would beat a
bus over the same route by a long way on my commute, but between stops
there's often an opportunity to travel at the same speed .

Rich



I've tried drafting but on my route to work there's a bus stop every 100
yards which spoils my fun :-(
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Old April 18th 04, 04:37 PM
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It blows the cobwebs away, so to speak, and if I've been stuck inside all
day,
it's a sheer joy to get in the fresh air.


Absolutely. I've had a cycling free weekend but I'm itching to get out and
now the clouds are disappearing I might just go for an early-evening whizz
round my 10-mile route. If I need an excuse, it's to try out my new specs
which arrived from Wiggle on Thursday (complete with sweets - hurrah!) -
Madison D'Arcs, cheap and cheerful but with interchangeable lenses, and
after getting a fly in my eye at the top of a 17% descent last weekend I
know I definitely need them. Specs are something I would now add to any list
of essential cycling kit... along with bib shorts.

I'm sure it makes me a more considerate driver, as when cycling, I'm a

more
vulnerable road user, and this helps me, when I'm in motorist mode, be

more
aware of the needs of non-motorised road users.


I've found that too - I've always tried to give cyclists and horses a wide
berth but now I find I'm quite happy to sit behind them pottering along at
5mph for a couple of minutes just to make sure that when I do pass them
there is *plenty* of room and I'm not just squeezing by.

It puts things in perspective - closer to the outside world than when

behind
the wheel of my car - I hear the birdsong when I'm cycling - I don't when
driving :-)


I'm gobsmacked to discover how much actual wildlife there really is out
there. The most amazing thing I've seen to date is an albino squirrel, which
I spotted in a hedgerow just a couple of weeks ago. I had to stop and rub my
eyes to check I wasn't imagining it.

d.


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Old April 18th 04, 04:37 PM
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It blows the cobwebs away, so to speak, and if I've been stuck inside all
day,
it's a sheer joy to get in the fresh air.


Absolutely. I've had a cycling free weekend but I'm itching to get out and
now the clouds are disappearing I might just go for an early-evening whizz
round my 10-mile route. If I need an excuse, it's to try out my new specs
which arrived from Wiggle on Thursday (complete with sweets - hurrah!) -
Madison D'Arcs, cheap and cheerful but with interchangeable lenses, and
after getting a fly in my eye at the top of a 17% descent last weekend I
know I definitely need them. Specs are something I would now add to any list
of essential cycling kit... along with bib shorts.

I'm sure it makes me a more considerate driver, as when cycling, I'm a

more
vulnerable road user, and this helps me, when I'm in motorist mode, be

more
aware of the needs of non-motorised road users.


I've found that too - I've always tried to give cyclists and horses a wide
berth but now I find I'm quite happy to sit behind them pottering along at
5mph for a couple of minutes just to make sure that when I do pass them
there is *plenty* of room and I'm not just squeezing by.

It puts things in perspective - closer to the outside world than when

behind
the wheel of my car - I hear the birdsong when I'm cycling - I don't when
driving :-)


I'm gobsmacked to discover how much actual wildlife there really is out
there. The most amazing thing I've seen to date is an albino squirrel, which
I spotted in a hedgerow just a couple of weeks ago. I had to stop and rub my
eyes to check I wasn't imagining it.

d.


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Old April 18th 04, 04:44 PM
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davek wrote:

I'm gobsmacked to discover how much actual wildlife there really is out
there. The most amazing thing I've seen to date is an albino squirrel, which
I spotted in a hedgerow just a couple of weeks ago. I had to stop and rub my
eyes to check I wasn't imagining it.


Same here. I've lost count of the number of squirrels and rabbits that
have run across the trail in front of me. That's not even counting the
hundreds of sheep, that I forget are just a few hundred feet away from
the house.

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Old April 18th 04, 04:44 PM
Keith Willoughby
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davek wrote:

I'm gobsmacked to discover how much actual wildlife there really is out
there. The most amazing thing I've seen to date is an albino squirrel, which
I spotted in a hedgerow just a couple of weeks ago. I had to stop and rub my
eyes to check I wasn't imagining it.


Same here. I've lost count of the number of squirrels and rabbits that
have run across the trail in front of me. That's not even counting the
hundreds of sheep, that I forget are just a few hundred feet away from
the house.

--
Keith Willoughby http://flat222.org/keith/
"I've seldom seen a horny player walk into a bar and not let out exactly what
he did for a living." - Johnny Bench
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Old April 18th 04, 04:49 PM
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If I need an excuse, it's to try out my new specs
which arrived from Wiggle on Thursday (complete with sweets - hurrah!) -
Madison D'Arcs, cheap and cheerful but with interchangeable lenses, and
after getting a fly in my eye at the top of a 17% descent last weekend I
know I definitely need them. Specs are something I would now add to any list
of essential cycling kit... along with bib shorts.


Quotes like that, you bad boy, means you are unlikely to be considered good by
the PSF, which means no sweeties for you from now on *and* a slabbing ;-)


I've found that too - I've always tried to give cyclists and horses a wide
berth but now I find I'm quite happy to sit behind them pottering along at
5mph for a couple of minutes just to make sure that when I do pass them
there is *plenty* of room and I'm not just squeezing by.


Yup, I think any of the pontificating twits in Another Place, who put the woes
of travel at the feet of cyclists & who moan about speed cameras as an unfair
tax should be nailed by the gonads to a Real Man Saddle as made by Sheldon
Brown. The gonads should only be removed from the saddle when they've learnt
how to be considerate road users. If they refuse to learn and remain selfish,
gonads should simply be removed... Oops, sorry, forgot, they don't have real
gonads to start off with ;-)


I'm gobsmacked to discover how much actual wildlife there really is out
there. The most amazing thing I've seen to date is an albino squirrel, which
I spotted in a hedgerow just a couple of weeks ago. I had to stop and rub my
eyes to check I wasn't imagining it.


It's lovely isn't it, when life is at that quieter, slower pace, and you are
still in contact with what is going on around - not insulated from it in a
motor vehicle. You do *see* more of what is going on around. My favourite
wildlife experience is when I sometimes get a barn owl flying alongside me when
I'm cycling a quiet lane - even if the owl is there for a fleeting moment, it's
quite special. The only albino I've seen was an albino male pheasant - quite
spectacular, but I actually did see that one when I was driving down a very
remote country lane

Cheers, helen s





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