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Old November 11th 08, 05:12 PM posted to rec.sport.unicycling
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you should make a longneck for definate, 42mm bearing caps for ISIS...
umm... 27.4mm so you can put koxx one seatpost and clamp on it.
Price... around £70 (not sure what that is in $'s)


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Old November 11th 08, 05:13 PM posted to rec.sport.unicycling
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Has he built any unicycles before, or just bike forks - worth knowing,
as bike forks take quite different stresses to unicycles, so it might
take a few more prototypes if he doesn't know about unicycles?

Is there a guarantee?

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Old November 11th 08, 05:30 PM posted to rec.sport.unicycling
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He does actual bike frames. It's still up in the air, just gauging
interest right now.

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Old November 11th 08, 05:54 PM posted to rec.sport.unicycling
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A price simular to the KH frames would be fair.


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Old November 11th 08, 05:55 PM posted to rec.sport.unicycling
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Ooooooh pretty! It needs to be between nimbus price, 50 and KH price,
200. So I'd say 120ish or less. Plus, you need to guarantee your
product, say, for a year.
From McMaster Carr you can get T5 Aluminum 6063 in 8' quantities for 13
bucks, 1 inch OD, .065 wall thicknes












So for strong reinforced aluminum, you could produce (10" per fork, 5
for crown, and say 7 for post, = 32" for piping, and about 3 frames
per 8', so lets say 5 dollars) +welding(30 including heat treating), +
bearing holders (maybe 20 total), and any additional reinforcements(10),
then product shipment, guarantee, and additional expenses, (25) = $90*
and that includes shipping, guarantee, and anything else, along with
reinforcements, and welding, which may be less cost. That leaves $30
profit, and you could charge more. Idk, sorry for calculating, and if I
left something out. Because your guy makes bike frames, he probably has
pricier better alloy.

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Old November 11th 08, 06:02 PM posted to rec.sport.unicycling
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I wouldn't pay more than for a KH frame...


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Old November 11th 08, 06:15 PM posted to rec.sport.unicycling
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Why do people suddenly like round crown frames again? I must have missed
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Old November 11th 08, 06:25 PM posted to rec.sport.unicycling
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Smilymarco;1129398 wrote:
I wouldn't pay more than for a KH frame...




I'd be wary of buying a custom built in the USA frame that cost less
than the KH. Bearing in mind that pretty much every other custom built
frame has cost more like $500, it'd suggest some shortcuts being taken
in the process somewhere. Unless it's being built just for fun and the
guy isn't charging for his time.

I mean the guy above who priced up the material has costed it at $90 in
materials + machining alone, although there are some pretty random
numbers in there - like $20 for machining a set of bearing holders
sounds pretty cheap - given a mass produced commercial pair will cost
you $40, I'd bet the real cost would be easily twice that. If he's doing
it well he has to factor in the cost of a few prototypes as he's never
built a unicycle before, the cost of his time building them, the cost of
guaranteeing them, and a profit.

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Old November 11th 08, 06:40 PM posted to rec.sport.unicycling
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joemarshall;1129417 wrote:
I'd be wary of buying a custom built in the USA frame that cost less
than the KH. Bearing in mind that pretty much every other custom built
frame has cost more like $500, it'd suggest some shortcuts being taken
in the process somewhere. Unless it's being built just for fun and the
guy isn't charging for his time.

I mean the guy above who priced up the material has costed it at $90 in
materials + machining alone, although there are some pretty random
numbers in there - like $20 for machining a set of bearing holders
sounds pretty cheap - given a mass produced commercial pair will cost
you $40, I'd bet the real cost would be easily twice that. If he's doing
it well he has to factor in the cost of a few prototypes as he's never
built a unicycle before, the cost of his time building them, the cost of
guaranteeing them, and a profit.

Joe



What?

http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=1182

I tried to throw in a few extra costs, if you noticed. A roundcrown
frame needs about 3 welds, so not alot.


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Old November 11th 08, 07:02 PM posted to rec.sport.unicycling
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Jeremy R;1129427 wrote:
What?

http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=1182

I tried to throw in a few extra costs, if you noticed. A roundcrown
frame needs about 3 welds, so not alot.




That's the cost for half a bearing holder, and mass produced in Taiwan
out of steel, which you obviously can't use for the top bit of a bearing
holder on an aluminium frame. So $24 to get a mass produced one from
Taiwan out of a cheaper material. If you buy the ones mass produced in
Taiwan out of aluminium, the cost is $40 a set (KH ones). You'd usually
expect a custom build to be more expensive than the cost of buying
them.

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