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Who gets your vote?
Based on this, who would you vote for?
Southwark Cyclists Southwark Living Streets Questionnaire on Sustainable Transport We asked the Conservatives, Greens, Labour and Libdems to commit to the following ten points and to tell us what they had done and would do. Here are the responses 1.A less car-dominated Southwark, where the need to travel is diminished by, for example, encouraging local facilities and the use of new technologies, without threatening economic well-being. Conservative No response Green Yes. We should always aim to reduce the need to travel, partly to make life easier for people, partly to be more environmentally friendly. Labour Labour are happy to sign up to this on behalf of all their Southwark candidates Libdem Southwark Council has just invested in 91 car share car parking spaces on Southwark roads. Each car share car in the latest surveys on average results in 24.5 private cars being removed -- so roughly 2,230 private cars will, over the next 2 years, be removed. We've invested significant sums, from memory, £4.5m over the last 3 years on improving local walkable shopping areas to make them more attractive e.g. Norwood Road, Great Suffolk Street. The decisions of how to spend this capital money are made by local Community Councils. No other South London borough has so many libraries or leisure centres spread across the borough ensuring we have local facilities for residents and importantly minimising the need to travel by non walking or cycling. 2.Making Southwark ever better for those who walk and cycle, by implementing urban design that prioritises walking and cycling, including adequate pedestrian crossings in shopping areas and cycle contraflows and protected lanes, even at the expense of on-street parking. Conservative No response Green Yes. We must improve the quality of life for pedestrians and cyclists so that it's better, easier, more fun, to shop locally. Labour Labour are happy to sign up to this Libdem We're resolving the problems that one way streets pose for people walking or cycling. For people walking streets with fast moving vehicles are unpleasant and hard to cross -- and one way streets create avenues of fast moving streets. For cyclists one way streets create long diversions making cycling more tiresome and long winded. Making one way streets two way can be easily achieved in most cases and we already have a programme to achieve this. Installing lots of cycle parking encourages cycling as the fear of bicycle theft which is exacerbated by poor cycle parking options. 3. Creating, with Transport for London, attractive, flourishing, safe and beautiful streets and green spaces that respect local history, where walking and cycling take priority. Conservative No response Green Yes. Agree wholeheartedly. Labour Labour are happy to sign up to this. Libdem We propose devolving more powers and funding to local community councils, established by the Liberal Democrats, so that they can decide where and what to invest local funds in. For example the Local Implementation Plan (LIP) includes £0.5M for Lordship Lane and similar projects in other local Southwark communities. 4. Ensuring that all public bodies and private organisations prioritise walking and cycling, and the use of public transport. Conservative No response Green Yes. All should have green travel plans, cycle buying schemes, and no car parking except for disabled. Labour Labour are happy to sign up to this. Libdem See 6 below 5. Using the Council's planning powers to ensure that all new developments provide for walking and cycling, including secure cycle parking for residents, visitors and at least 30% of employees. Conservative No response Green Yes. And have lots of car free developments. Southwark council has promised such things for years but not delivered. Labour Labour are happy to sign up to this. Libdem See 6 below 6. Promotion of car clubs, thus reducing car and van use and the financial burden of vehicle ownership. Conservative No response Green Yes. It makes financial and environmental sense. Labour Labour are happy to sign up to this. Libdem 4, 5 and 6 A Southwark Council led by Liberal Democrats already uses its planning powers to insist on cycle parking and more or less every scheme that is decided by the Planning Committee has conditions about secure and visitor cycle parking. We're clear that if evidence indicates the proportion should be 30% then we will change planning rules to whatever the evidence shows. Whether that be 20%, 30% or 40%. 7. Making the areas around schools safe for walking and cycling and providing training to all Southwark school children, teachers and other staff. Conservative No response Green Yes. Cycle training will encourage more cycling and create healthier schoolchildren, then we must protect our children, and their parents, and aim for zero deaths and injuries on our roads. Labour Labour are happy to sign up to this. Libdem We already provide cycle training for adults and children and expect to continue this. For a number of years we've supported safe routes to schools and via the LIP community councils can decide whether to support further additional works on safe routes to schools or not. 8.Working with the Police to reduce death and injury on our roads by well-enforced 20mph limits on all Southwark roads, including Transport for London's roads; and removing roadside railings and fixtures that hinder pedestrian movement and speed up motor traffic. Conservative No response Green Yes. Jenny Jones, who sits on the Metropolitan Police Authority, has prioritised roads policing in her work and protected the traffic police from severe cuts. Labour Labour are happy to sign up to this. Libdem Each community council has over a £1/3M capital funding per annum. They can choose to invest such devolved funding in speed measuring devices allowing Safer Neighbourhood Teams to undertake speed enforcement work such East Dulwich ward and Village ward have decided or use such equipment for community speed watch projects. Equally Southwark Cyclists and/or Southwark Living Streets could apply for such funding from a Liberal Democrat controlled community council for speed measurement/gun devices. With regards to 20mph limits, the Liberal Democrats commit to 20mph for Southwark roads. 9.A zero-casualty policy, with a review of every single road death and serious injury to remove the cause. All Council and contractors' lorries to be fitted with side-guards, proximity sensors, in-vehicle speed restrictors and full coverage mirrors. Conservative No response Green Yes. It seems odd that we accept a road death toll of about 200 every year (plus many more serious injuries) when we wouldn't accept that many stabbings, shootings or murders. Labour Labour are happy to sign up to this. Libdem Yes, we are committed to reducing road casualties further. Working towards zero-casualties as the Swedish are doing is a framework we would support. A local authority working on its own without national government leadership can only be partially successful. However, Southwark Council should investigate all collisions where anyone is killed or very seriously injured. It should not investigate collisions on Transport for London roads as Southwark is not the responsible body and legally and practically cannot make changes on these roads. Railings should be removed and cycle parking installed where it creates a cycle parking vacuum. 10.Easy access to walking and cycling advice, help and training for all Southwark residents, workers, students and organisations. Conservative No response Green Yes. This would make us all healthier and probably get us all the work faster. Labour Labour are happy to sign up to this. Libdem We plan to keep providing free cycling training for adults as well as children. What the parties have done and would do: Conservative No response Green Jenny Jones has worked through the London Assembly, Metropolitan PoliceAuthority and Southwark Council to promote safe, sustainable transport. She has stopped cuts to road policing, increased cycling and walking budgets in London and raised the political profile of these issues. She also loves attending Critical Mass bike rides along with other Southwark Green Party members. With more Greens on the council, we can do more to enforce the council's dormant policy for new cycle facilities on every refurbished road, and to work with local groups to identify and fix problems such as the recent Living Streets audit of Peckham. Labour Labour has campaigned for 20mph zones to be rolled-out across the borough but only using road humps when they are the most appropriate traffic-calming measure. We believe that the best way to get more people cycling is to improve the safety of every ordinary road and street and to provide safe and secure parking wherever it's needed. We believe that encouraging people to make more short-distance journeys on foot is vital in tackling our borough's health problems and will best be achieved by removing clutter, greening our streets and improving signage. Libdem See above May 1 2010 |
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Who gets your vote?
On 05/04/2010 07:29 PM, Tom Crispin wrote:
Based on this, who would you vote for? NOTA -- www.slowbicyclemovement.org - enjoy the ride |
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Who gets your vote?
Tom Crispin wrote:
Based on this, who would you vote for? Southwark Cyclists Southwark Living Streets Questionnaire on Sustainable Transport We asked the Conservatives, Greens, Labour and Libdems to commit to the following ten points and to tell us what they had done and would do. Here are the responses Clearly any sane person would vote Conservative. By ignoring whacko ideas from fruit loop pressure groups they would get on with running the place for the 'majority' of the population - and not waste taxpayers money on tosspot schemes. -- Dave - intelligent enough to realise that a push bike is a kid's toy, not a viable form of transport. |
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On 4 May, 20:28, "The Medway Handyman" davidl...@no-spam-
blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Tom Crispin wrote: Based on this, who would you vote for? Southwark *Cyclists Southwark Living Streets Questionnaire on Sustainable Transport We asked the Conservatives, Greens, Labour and Libdems to commit to the following ten points and to tell us what they had done and would do. Here are the responses Clearly any sane person would vote Conservative. *By ignoring whacko ideas from fruit loop pressure groups they would get on with running the place for the 'majority' of the population - and not waste taxpayers money on tosspot schemes. -- Dave - intelligent enough to realise that a push bike is a kid's toy, not a viable form of transport. Clearly any sane person would vote Conservative. By ignoring whacko ideas from fruit loop pressure groups they would get on with running the place for the bankers, who have done so well recently. -- Dave - a bit of a banker himself. |
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On Tue, 04 May 2010 20:28:23 +0100, Jim A
wrote: On 05/04/2010 07:29 PM, Tom Crispin wrote: Based on this, who would you vote for? NOTA I think that I prefer a non-response to an insincere "We are happy to sign up to this." |
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Who gets your vote?
On 4 May, 21:52, Tom Crispin
wrote: On Tue, 04 May 2010 20:28:23 +0100, Jim A wrote: On 05/04/2010 07:29 PM, Tom Crispin wrote: Based on this, who would you vote for? NOTA I think that I prefer a non-response to an insincere "We are happy to sign up to this." Cycling is a minority pastime though. Pandering to the minorities is a slippery slope which breed malcontent amongst the majority of the voting public. I take it that the Conservatives were just not available, or didn't return the questionnaire to illicit this form of derision from the knitters ? |
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Squashme wrote:
On 4 May, 20:28, "The Medway Handyman" davidl...@no-spam- blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Tom Crispin wrote: Based on this, who would you vote for? Southwark Cyclists Southwark Living Streets Questionnaire on Sustainable Transport We asked the Conservatives, Greens, Labour and Libdems to commit to the following ten points and to tell us what they had done and would do. Here are the responses Clearly any sane person would vote Conservative. By ignoring whacko ideas from fruit loop pressure groups they would get on with running the place for the 'majority' of the population - and not waste taxpayers money on tosspot schemes. -- Dave - intelligent enough to realise that a push bike is a kid's toy, not a viable form of transport. Clearly any sane person would vote Conservative. By ignoring whacko ideas from fruit loop pressure groups they would get on with running the place for the bankers, who have done so well recently. You don't need to be a ****wit every day - you can take time off. -- Dave - intelligent enough to realise that a push bike is a kid's toy, not a viable form of transport. |
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Tom Crispin wrote:
On Tue, 04 May 2010 20:28:23 +0100, Jim A wrote: On 05/04/2010 07:29 PM, Tom Crispin wrote: Based on this, who would you vote for? NOTA I think that I prefer a non-response to an insincere "We are happy to sign up to this." My take on the four responses is; Conservative; "Oh FFS its those minority cycling ******s again trying to spend taxpayers money like no tommorrow - throw that rubbish in the bin". Labour; "Tell them anything if it gets their votes". Greens; "Goody goody, someone else who lives in a fantasy world, lets agree - it won't matter, we will never gain any power anyway". Lib Dem; "Whatever you want, we are doing it anyway because we don't have any policies". You complete & utter ******s are only interested in promoting your immature fantasies - typically at someone else's expense. If you want a cyclists paradise - stick your hands in your ****ing pockets & pay for it yourselves. Do you really think that Mr & Mrs Average, struggling to meet the bills, are the least bit interested in your idiot schemes? What they want is the bins emptied, the street lights to work, the roads to be swept and the schools to teach their kids to read & write. -- Dave - intelligent enough to realise that a push bike is a kid's toy, not a viable form of transport. |
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On Wed, 5 May 2010 01:17:15 +0100, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote: Tom Crispin wrote: On Tue, 04 May 2010 20:28:23 +0100, Jim A wrote: On 05/04/2010 07:29 PM, Tom Crispin wrote: Based on this, who would you vote for? NOTA I think that I prefer a non-response to an insincere "We are happy to sign up to this." My take on the four responses is; Conservative; "Oh FFS its those minority cycling ******s again trying to spend taxpayers money like no tommorrow - throw that rubbish in the bin". Labour; "Tell them anything if it gets their votes". Greens; "Goody goody, someone else who lives in a fantasy world, lets agree - it won't matter, we will never gain any power anyway". Lib Dem; "Whatever you want, we are doing it anyway because we don't have any policies". This is really very good, Medway, and probably pretty much spot on. You waste your talents with too much profanity. In your latter comments, which I have snipped, I think that you can add to the list of things that Mr and Mrs Average want: children that are healthy and are able to travel to and from school safely. |
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On 4 May, 20:28, Jim A wrote:
On 05/04/2010 07:29 PM, Tom Crispin wrote: Based on this, who would you vote for? NOTA Same here, if I was allowed to. Besides, who can believe their empty promises? I will be glad when this irritating charade is all over and we revert to business as usual, even if it means Tweedledee, Tweedledum and Tweedlelibdem form an hung Parliament. Wait a bit though! Would that mean we would have to be subjected to the same sorry process all over again? In which case may one of them please be FPTP so that every time I tun on the telly there will not be some dreadful politician blocking out the important world news. -- UK Radical Campaigns www.zing.icom43.net Don't vote it only encourages them. You can't change the play by changing the players. |
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