Bianchi are appaling and last 365 days

"JP" schreef Care to mention where the weight limit for
rider is ever mentioned on the
Bianchi web site?
.........or any cycle manufacturers web site for that matter?


No. But this one has an imprint "100% Bratwurst Proof".

http://www.bianchiusa.com/site/gener...0_replica.html

"Carl Sundquist" wrote in message
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"JP" wrote in message news:2j%bb.9245

Care to mention where the weight limit for riders is ever mentioned on
the
Bianchi web site?
.........or any cycle manufacturers web site for that matter?


Recommended rider weight limits have been around for a long time. Columbus
had such
recommendations for SL tubing (less than 70 kg.) since at least the late
'70's/early 80's.

I can scan a copy and email it to you if you wish.


Wow a Columbus web site from the late 70's what's the URL link?

You didn't find the weight limits on the Bianchi one then? Which is slightly
more On topic.

"Carl Sundquist" wrote in message
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"JP" wrote in message

I'm wary if for no other reason than how Justin chose to disclose
information about the
situation.

I'll let you into a secret.

He did it in the internet.



Someone recently said, "Ahhh another response packed with intelligence and
reasoned
debate."

Too bad that person is a hypocrite.


Ask Santa for a dictionary.
It'll help your improve your understanding of English.

"Nick Burns" wrote in message
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"JP" wrote in message
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"Nick Burns" wrote in message
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"Runkle" wrote in message

At what point is it "fair" to end the warranty? Five to eight
years?
Why
not ten years? Or twenty? Why not a life time warranty? Should we
mandate
lifetime warranties? Wouldn't that be "more fair"?

What else would you expect from a commie like this dude?

Ahhh
another response packed with intelligence and reasoned debate.



It is a fair conclusion after hearing how he thinks the "corporate bad
guys"
owe him a bike frame for as long as he "assumed" it would last.

Someone exercises their consumer rights enshrined within that countries
liberal democracy law.
So you therefore think that anyone doing so, is a communist.
That's your definition of a fair conclusion.

Ahh the land of the free!!!
Certainly free of something.

"JP" wrote in message
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"Nick Burns" wrote in message
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"JP" wrote in message
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"Nick Burns" wrote in message
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"Runkle" wrote in message

At what point is it "fair" to end the warranty? Five to eight
years?
Why
not ten years? Or twenty? Why not a life time warranty? Should
we
mandate
lifetime warranties? Wouldn't that be "more fair"?

What else would you expect from a commie like this dude?

Ahhh
another response packed with intelligence and reasoned debate.



It is a fair conclusion after hearing how he thinks the "corporate bad
guys"
owe him a bike frame for as long as he "assumed" it would last.

Someone exercises their consumer rights enshrined within that countries
liberal democracy law.
So you therefore think that anyone doing so, is a communist.
That's your definition of a fair conclusion.

Ahh the land of the free!!!
Certainly free of something.

For someone that enjoys the liberal use of sarcasm you don't seem very
capable of recognizing it.

"Enshrined". Tee hee. What a pud. The "J" must stand for "Justin", the two
of you are very much alike.

Donald Munro wrote in message ...
Justin Lewis wrote:
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The bike had been used for road racing (one or two races a week) for
one and a half seasons. It had never been crashed. I weigh 82Kg.

Many ultralight frames (aluminium and presumably ultralight steel as
well) have a limit on the maximum weight of the rider at around or below
80Kg so this may have been a factor in your frame failure, particularly
if you do a lot of sprinting or ride on cobblestones/rough roads. I don't
know if Bianchi have set a rider weight limit on the Boron but if they did
then the dealer should probably have advised you of this.

Bart advised us this link:

http://www.bianchiusa.com/site/gener...0_replica.html

That's $6500 for a Bianchi Al frame and carbon forks, Ullrich's bike.

For $2000 less you can have Lance's bike in full Dura-Ace
with a LIFETIME frame warranty (Trek).

-Ken

That's $6500 for a Bianchi Al frame and carbon forks, Ullrich's bike.

For $2000 less you can have Lance's bike in full Dura-Ace
with a LIFETIME frame warranty (Trek).

-Ken

But it is so HEAVY!! Geez, everyone knows that Bianchis are the lightest
thing out there... Trek... ptui!

Mike

"Justin Lewis" wrote in message
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my responsibility to accept a defctive period, bow down to a
ridiculously short warranty period and to accept Bianchi's arrogance?
And you are a representative of the cycle trade?

Justin, There are a few things that I'm not quite clear on.

a) Did you know that the bike only had a one year warranty when you bought
it?

b) If the answer to a is no, Would you have still bought the bike if you
knew there was only a one year warranty?

-T

"Justin Lewis" wrote in message
news
Please read the information below and make your own conclusion as to
why you must never buy a frame from Bianchi! Would Bianchi still act
in this way if the defects had resulted in personal injury?

To answer your question they would have passed it onto their legal
personalibilty insurers who would have advised them to keep quiet until it
was settled. It's possible they have outstanding claims if what your dealer
said is correct.

Snip

I'm sorry you've been subjected to a tirade of personal abuse and largely
wholly uninformed garbage from many on this NG. Can I recommend
uk.rec.cycling. Where I'd say you would have had a very different response
to your posting.

Certainly under English law you would have a claim against the retailer.
I doubt if the law in the Netherlands is likely to be much different if at
all under EU harmonisation laws.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/watchdog/guides...es/index.shtml
PURCHASES
The main statutes that cover your rights when shopping or buying a service
are The Sale of Goods Act 1979 and the Supply of Goods and Services Act 1982
(as amended).
The law says that goods must be of 'satisfactory quality' - goods must be
free from defects except when they have been brought to your attention.
They must be 'fit for their purpose' - this includes if the seller assures
you they are capable of performing the way you describe you want them to.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/watchdog/guides...s/index2.shtml
IF THINGS GO WRONG

If you have a complaint about the goods you have bought, you should make the
trader aware of this as soon as you can.
If you are returning goods because they are faulty, you don't have to accept
a credit note, replacement or repair. Hold out for a refund if that's what
you want. If you give the company an opportunity to repair the item, you
still have the right to reject it later if you are still not satisfied.

snip

GUARANTEES
The shop may say you have to claim a refund from the manufacturer, or claim
under the manufacturer's guarantee, which is not true. Shoppers' rights
under the Sale of Goods Act are against the retailer, not the manufacturer.
Guarantees simply give additional rights which shoppers can choose to use.
Sometimes it is easier to use the guarantee, but you should make it clear to
the shop that you are reserving your rights under the Sale of Goods Act to
reject the item if you are not happy.
You have up to six years to claim compensation from a retailer for a faulty
product, far longer than you have under most guarantees which usually only
offer a free repair.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/watchdog/guides...s/index5.shtml

(Sorry I don't know the equivalent bodies in the Netherlands.)
TAKING IT FURTHER
If the company is a member of a trade association, they are likely to set a
certain level of service. Contact them - they may operate a mediation
service.
Your local Trading Standards office or Consumer Protection office may be
able to give you free advice on how to complain.
They can also investigate false or misleading descriptions or prices. You
will find their number in the 'phone book.
Look under your local authority for England and Wales, your regional council
for Scotland or under 'Government - Department of Economic Development,
Trading Standards Branch' for Northern Ireland.
You may also contact your local Citizens Advice Bureau. They too can offer
help on shopping problems and advise on how to proceed if you are planning
to go to court.
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Best of luck for the future and thanks for information on the crass way
Bianchi treats its customers.
No wonder the retailer has now dropped them.

"K. J. Papai" wrote in message
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Bart advised us this link:

http://www.bianchiusa.com/site/gener...0_replica.html

That's $6500 for a Bianchi Al frame and carbon forks, Ullrich's bike.

For $2000 less you can have Lance's bike in full Dura-Ace
with a LIFETIME frame warranty (Trek).

As used by LA in the Luz Ardiden stage :-)

Jeff