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On 2 Dec, 12:19, Roger Thorpe wrote:
Doug wrote: On 2 Dec, 10:15, Roger Thorpe wrote: Doug wrote: The irony is that by not having lights he was putting himself far more at risk of death from being hit by a driver than by being a danger to anyone else, unlike say a car with no lights. Well, Doug. Having very nearly ridden into an unlit cyclist a few times, I'd think it fair to say that the risk to others, including pedestrians is considerable. Roger Thorpe Well, Roger. Having been run down and injured by a driver who even failed to see my lights the risk to me was considerable and to no one else. That makes it alright then. As I said, the cyclist with no lights is more a danger to themself than to anyone else, unlike a motorist with no lights who is a danger to all, given the large mass and velocity difference. -- Carfree Cities http://www.carfree.com/ Promoting practical alternatives to car dependence - walking, cycling and public transport. |
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Doug wrote:
On 2 Dec, 12:19, Roger Thorpe wrote: Doug wrote: On 2 Dec, 10:15, Roger Thorpe wrote: Doug wrote: The irony is that by not having lights he was putting himself far more at risk of death from being hit by a driver than by being a danger to anyone else, unlike say a car with no lights. Well, Doug. Having very nearly ridden into an unlit cyclist a few times, I'd think it fair to say that the risk to others, including pedestrians is considerable. Roger Thorpe Well, Roger. Having been run down and injured by a driver who even failed to see my lights the risk to me was considerable and to no one else. That makes it alright then. As I said, the cyclist with no lights is more a danger to themself than to anyone else, unlike a motorist with no lights who is a danger to all, given the large mass and velocity difference. I'm sorry what is your point? That because an unlit car is more dangerous than a bike the unlit cyclist should be ignored? Roger Thorpe |
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On 2 Dec, 12:30, Roger Thorpe wrote:
Doug wrote: On 2 Dec, 12:19, Roger Thorpe wrote: Doug wrote: On 2 Dec, 10:15, Roger Thorpe wrote: Doug wrote: The irony is that by not having lights he was putting himself far more at risk of death from being hit by a driver than by being a danger to anyone else, unlike say a car with no lights. Well, Doug. Having very nearly ridden into an unlit cyclist a few times, I'd think it fair to say that the risk to others, including pedestrians is considerable. Roger Thorpe Well, Roger. Having been run down and injured by a driver who even failed to see my lights the risk to me was considerable and to no one else. That makes it alright then. As I said, the cyclist with no lights is more a danger to themself than to anyone else, unlike a motorist with no lights who is a danger to all, given the large mass and velocity difference. I'm sorry what is your point? That because an unlit car is more dangerous than a bike the unlit cyclist should be ignored? Roger Thorpe No, that closet motorists here should not keep on banging on about cyclist misdemeanors when they themselves are just as guilty if not more so. -- Carfree Cities http://www.carfree.com/ Promoting practical alternatives to car dependence - walking, cycling and public transport. |
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"Doug" wrote in message ... On 2 Dec, 12:30, Roger Thorpe wrote: Doug wrote: On 2 Dec, 12:19, Roger Thorpe wrote: Doug wrote: On 2 Dec, 10:15, Roger Thorpe wrote: Doug wrote: The irony is that by not having lights he was putting himself far more at risk of death from being hit by a driver than by being a danger to anyone else, unlike say a car with no lights. Well, Doug. Having very nearly ridden into an unlit cyclist a few times, I'd think it fair to say that the risk to others, including pedestrians is considerable. Roger Thorpe Well, Roger. Having been run down and injured by a driver who even failed to see my lights the risk to me was considerable and to no one else. That makes it alright then. As I said, the cyclist with no lights is more a danger to themself than to anyone else, unlike a motorist with no lights who is a danger to all, given the large mass and velocity difference. I'm sorry what is your point? That because an unlit car is more dangerous than a bike the unlit cyclist should be ignored? Roger Thorpe No, that closet motorists here should not keep on banging on about cyclist misdemeanors when they themselves are just as guilty if not more so. Sorry, my car doesn't fit in my closet. What does that make me? Colin |
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Doug wrote:
Roger Thorpe No, that closet motorists here should not keep on banging on about cyclist misdemeanors when they themselves are just as guilty if not more so. We must be reading different newsgroups because I don't see much of that. What I do see is you, crossposting and dragging in the motorists that you have already antagonised. Not helpful. Roger Thorpe Crosspost removed once again. |
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Colin Reed wrote:
Well whoop-de-bloody-doo. Next you'll be telling us that crumble isn't made from fruit, only from apples. mode type="facetious" Well actually, it's made from flour, sugar and butter. /mode -- I'm at CAMbridge, not SPAMbridge |
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On Dec 2, 12:05*pm, David Hansen
wrote: On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:25:00 -0800 (PST) someone who may be PeterG wrote this:- Like all road users he should check his light before he made his journey. According to the article he says he did. "But Mr Cimini challenged this, claiming he had left his flat with both lights working" Next. According to the article he accepted a Fixed Penalty Notice, thereby accepting his guilt. Next. Calum |
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Quoting calum :
On Dec 2, 12:05=A0pm, David Hansen According to the article he says he did. "But Mr Cimini challenged this, claiming he had left his flat with both lights working" According to the article he accepted a Fixed Penalty Notice, thereby accepting his guilt. Because no-one ever accepted an FPN to avoid being dragged into court for two coppers' word against theirs, right? -- David Damerell Distortion Field! Today is Gouday, November. |
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On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:59:12 +0000, Tom Wright
wrote: Colin Reed wrote: Well whoop-de-bloody-doo. Next you'll be telling us that crumble isn't made from fruit, only from apples. mode type="facetious" Well actually, it's made from flour, sugar and butter. /mode Have you tried it with porridge oats and oil instead? More crumbly, IYSWIM. -- Tim |
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On 2 Dec, 10:15, Roger Thorpe wrote:
Doug wrote: The irony is that by not having lights he was putting himself far more at risk of death from being hit by a driver than by being a danger to anyone else, unlike say a car with no lights. Well, Doug. Having very nearly ridden into an unlit cyclist a few times, I'd think it fair to say that the risk to others, including pedestrians is considerable. Dougs not very big on pedestrian rights for some odd reason. Fod |
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