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Old July 28th 12, 08:43 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Bertie Wooster[_2_]
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I wonder if the police will arrest cyclists taking part in the Olympic
road race today:

=====Selective Quote=====
Imposing conditions on public processions.

(1)If the senior police officer, having regard to the time or place at
which and the circumstances in which any public procession is being
held or is intended to be held and to its route or proposed route,
reasonably believes that—


(a)it may result in serious public disorder, serious damage to
property or serious disruption to the life of the community, or

[...]

he may give directions imposing on the persons organising or taking
part in the procession such conditions as appear to him necessary to
prevent such disorder, damage, disruption or intimidation, including
conditions as to the route of the procession or prohibiting it from
entering any public place specified in the directions.
=====/Selective Quote=====

There is little doubt that the road race will lead to serious
disruption to the life of the community. Certainly more so than the CM
ride last night.
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Old July 28th 12, 10:13 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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Default Police to arrest cyclists?

On 28/07/2012 08:43, Bertie Wooster wrote:
I wonder if the police will arrest cyclists taking part in the Olympic
road race today:

=====Selective Quote=====
Imposing conditions on public processions.

(1)If the senior police officer, having regard to the time or place at
which and the circumstances in which any public procession is being
held or is intended to be held and to its route or proposed route,
reasonably believes that—


(a)it may result in serious public disorder, serious damage to
property or serious disruption to the life of the community, or

[...]

he may give directions imposing on the persons organising or taking
part in the procession such conditions as appear to him necessary to
prevent such disorder, damage, disruption or intimidation, including
conditions as to the route of the procession or prohibiting it from
entering any public place specified in the directions.
=====/Selective Quote=====

There is little doubt that the road race will lead to serious
disruption to the life of the community. Certainly more so than the CM
ride last night.


"may", not "shall".

Context is everything.

Do you understand how law is framed and interpreted?

Ask Lee.

He'll enlighten you.

Or perhaps not.
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Old July 28th 12, 11:29 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
M Wicks
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On Jul 28, 10:13*am, JNugent wrote:
On 28/07/2012 08:43, Bertie Wooster wrote:









I wonder if the police will arrest cyclists taking part in the Olympic
road race today:


=====Selective Quote=====
Imposing conditions on public processions.


(1)If the senior police officer, having regard to the time or place at
which and the circumstances in which any public procession is being
held or is intended to be held and to its route or proposed route,
reasonably believes that—


(a)it may result in serious public disorder, serious damage to
property or serious disruption to the life of the community, or


[...]


he may give directions imposing on the persons organising or taking
part in the procession such conditions as appear to him necessary to
prevent such disorder, damage, disruption or intimidation, including
conditions as to the route of the procession or prohibiting it from
entering any public place specified in the directions.
=====/Selective Quote=====


There is little doubt that the road race will lead to serious
disruption to the life of the community. Certainly more so than the CM
ride last night.


"may", not "shall".

Context is everything.

Do you understand how law is framed and interpreted?

Ask Lee.

He'll enlighten you.

Or perhaps not.


I know you're just being sarcastic, and that you don't think Phil Lee
knows anything about the law. This is foolhardy in the extreme as he
clearly knows a great deal more than you.

It's clear that you think all cyclists are completely incompetent at
everything. Why do you think that? I bet you can't provide a
convincing answer.

Are you angry with Phil Lee for knowing more than you?
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Old July 29th 12, 12:53 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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On 28/07/2012 23:29, M Wicks wrote:
On Jul 28, 10:13 am, JNugent wrote:
On 28/07/2012 08:43, Bertie Wooster wrote:









I wonder if the police will arrest cyclists taking part in the Olympic
road race today:


=====Selective Quote=====
Imposing conditions on public processions.


(1)If the senior police officer, having regard to the time or place at
which and the circumstances in which any public procession is being
held or is intended to be held and to its route or proposed route,
reasonably believes that—


(a)it may result in serious public disorder, serious damage to
property or serious disruption to the life of the community, or


[...]


he may give directions imposing on the persons organising or taking
part in the procession such conditions as appear to him necessary to
prevent such disorder, damage, disruption or intimidation, including
conditions as to the route of the procession or prohibiting it from
entering any public place specified in the directions.
=====/Selective Quote=====


There is little doubt that the road race will lead to serious
disruption to the life of the community. Certainly more so than the CM
ride last night.


"may", not "shall".

Context is everything.

Do you understand how law is framed and interpreted?

Ask Lee.

He'll enlighten you.

Or perhaps not.


I know you're just being sarcastic, and that you don't think Phil Lee
knows anything about the law. This is foolhardy in the extreme as he
clearly knows a great deal more than you.


REALLY?

Are you absolutely SURE about that?

Be wary...

It's clear that you think all cyclists are completely incompetent at
everything.


Wrong.

Some cyclists are perfect gentlemen and obey all traffic law as well as the
Highway Code.

OTOH, some don't (and aren't).

Which group are you in?

Why do you think that? I bet you can't provide a convincing answer.
Are you angry with Phil Lee for knowing more than you?


Er... no.

See whether you can work out why.
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Old July 29th 12, 10:59 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Dave - Cyclists VOR
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Default Police to arrest cyclists?

On 28/07/2012 23:29, M Wicks wrote:
On Jul 28, 10:13 am, JNugent wrote:
On 28/07/2012 08:43, Bertie Wooster wrote:









I wonder if the police will arrest cyclists taking part in the Olympic
road race today:


=====Selective Quote=====
Imposing conditions on public processions.


(1)If the senior police officer, having regard to the time or place at
which and the circumstances in which any public procession is being
held or is intended to be held and to its route or proposed route,
reasonably believes that—


(a)it may result in serious public disorder, serious damage to
property or serious disruption to the life of the community, or


[...]


he may give directions imposing on the persons organising or taking
part in the procession such conditions as appear to him necessary to
prevent such disorder, damage, disruption or intimidation, including
conditions as to the route of the procession or prohibiting it from
entering any public place specified in the directions.
=====/Selective Quote=====


There is little doubt that the road race will lead to serious
disruption to the life of the community. Certainly more so than the CM
ride last night.


"may", not "shall".

Context is everything.

Do you understand how law is framed and interpreted?

Ask Lee.

He'll enlighten you.

Or perhaps not.


I know you're just being sarcastic, and that you don't think Phil Lee
knows anything about the law. This is foolhardy in the extreme as he
clearly knows a great deal more than you.

It's clear that you think all cyclists are completely incompetent at
everything. Why do you think that? I bet you can't provide a
convincing answer.

Are you angry with Phil Lee for knowing more than you?

M'Lud Lee is an even bigger **** than you are.



--
Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a
legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a
vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton - Lancaster
University
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Old July 29th 12, 11:14 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
Judith[_4_]
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Default Police to arrest cyclists?

On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 15:29:43 -0700 (PDT), M Wicks wrote:

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I know you're just being sarcastic, and that you don't think Phil Lee
knows anything about the law. This is foolhardy in the extreme as he
clearly knows a great deal more than you.



I know that he is an expert on all legal matters. he taught me all of the
following:

================================================== =========
If you find 2 abreast cyclists more obstructive than single file ones, you must
have been intending to pass dangerously close anyway.

If you claim to be held up by a cyclist, you are admitting to dangerous
driving, since the only way you could be held up is if your intention was to
pass dangerously close.

Commenting on a legal gate in a public park: I'd think it comes under the
heading of "causing an obstruction",
and should be investigated by the police as such.

If Traffic Lights are not working, then you can telephone the police for
permission to proceed.
If this is not forthcoming, then you can reports it as "unlawful detention".

The police have clearly not been persuaded by the Law Lords, and still
try to treat the procession as unlawful. In this they are now equally
clearly in contempt of court.

It could usefilly sic be pointed out to motorists that if they are within
range of a swung D lock, they are too close, and could be held liable
for any collision (including with the D lock).

If you are watching your kids in the rear view mirror, you are not
driving safely or legally.

I would find it very hard to condemn anyone who beat the van driver
into permanent inability to drive

I hope he hits you next, then we can all have a good laugh.
With any luck, you will be a dribbling vegetable in permanent pain
afterwards, but will continue your sad existence for many painful
decades.

If the *******s won't do anything about the taxi driver risking
people's lives by dangerous driving, book him to take your kids on a
trip, then report him for kiddy-fiddling. He'll never drive a taxi
again.
 




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