Lance's strategy

On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:40:30 -0700 (PDT), Tom Adams
wrote:

Contador is just a stocking horse now.

Wow, I did not know that Contador was a cross-dresser!

Sign of an inexperienced stocker. You can't wait for the next roomer -
you have to make them up as the opportunity arises.

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Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

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Dumbass wrote:
Seems to me that Lance is in a difficult position.

I would think that Contador will have he green light to break in the
Alps, and Lance will have a red light.

So, is he going to defy JB and break earlier than Contador?

Even doing some kind of late break after Contador in order to keep his
GC gap down would be against marching orders I would think.

Assuming no big mistakes by Contador, his only hope would be:

1. A good TT to overtake Contador.

2. Another smart move into a successful break.

3. Some non-Astana GC contender closes the gap, so that just staying
on that rider's wheel will allow him to not fall too far behind
Contador in the GC.

Otherwise he has to defy marching orders, which he might do given the
fact that all the non-GC contenders are so far back that he might not
be putting the team goals at great risk.

Dear Dumbass,

Lance's strategy remains what it always was: keep close to the lead and
wait for Contador to be thrown out after failing a drug test. Then Lance
can win clean, just like he always has.

On Jul 13, 4:21*pm, Fred Fredburger
wrote:

Dear Dumbass,

Lance's strategy remains what it always was: keep close to the lead and
wait for Contador to be thrown out after failing a drug test. Then Lance
can win clean, just like he always has.

So you're saying Astana team dinners will become re-enactments of the
"Where's The Poison" scene from Princess Bride?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6wqKb8EUxI

Jim

Le 7/13/2009 15:24, Paul B. Anders a bien réfléchi et puis a déclaré:
On Jul 13, 1:10 pm, "Benjo wrote:

schreef in berichtnews:jlrm555n1mbfvq0e0i00q1ngaageo3qrm5@4ax .com...






On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:34:47 -0700 (PDT), Dumbass
wrote:

Seems to me that Lance is in a difficult position.

I would think that Contador will have he green light to break in the
Alps, and Lance will have a red light.

So, is he going to defy JB and break earlier than Contador?

Even doing some kind of late break after Contador in order to keep his
GC gap down would be against marching orders I would think.

Assuming no big mistakes by Contador, his only hope would be:

1. A good TT to overtake Contador.

2. Another smart move into a successful break.

3. Some non-Astana GC contender closes the gap, so that just staying
on that rider's wheel will allow him to not fall too far behind
Contador in the GC.

Otherwise he has to defy marching orders, which he might do given the
fact that all the non-GC contenders are so far back that he might not
be putting the team goals at great risk.

JB will be on LA's team next year. Contador will be on some Spanish
team that has F1 technicians anxious to introduce carbon fiber and
space age metal to bicycle racing. LA has an open green light from JB
to do whatever necessary to attract sponsors and most of what is
'whatever necessary' has the potential to beat
Contador/Contradore/whoever. Contador is just a stocking horse now.

Right. As the Dutch newspaper De Volkskrant wrote today: Contador has his
plans, Armstrong has his plans, but only Armstrong's plans match to
Bruyneel's. Bruyneel will do everything to help Armstrong. Besides,
Contador's position in the team is rather weak. He can only count on
Paulinho and to a certain extent on Zubeldia, whereas Armstrong can count on
Leipheimer, Klöden, Popovich and Rast. Mutavjev isn't taking sides yet, but
is inclining to support Armstrong. On the other hand: Contador's best
friends are not in Astana, but in Caisse d'Epargne. Luis Leon Sanchez is a
close friend and teammanager Ledanois already said that they are indebted to
what Contador did to them in Paris-Nice (LL Sanchez) and the Dauphiné Libéré
(Valverde).

Benjo- Hide quoted text -

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So much is unknown or in doubt at this point - who has the legs, who
is calling the shots, who will provide support, who will follow orders
and who will not. Who will be a wild card? I suspect it will become
clearer somewhere on the road to Verbier.

I'm betting that regardless of orders, Contador will make the next
move.

Brad Anders

If I were Contador's manager, I'd make a sly call to KZ to see if there
might be some street money to collect a bit of an ersatz team.
Enemy/enemy/friend kind of thing.
--
Sandy
Verneuil-sur-Seine FR
*******

La vie, c'est comme une bicyclette,
il faut avancer pour ne pas perdre l'équilibre.
-- Einstein, A.

Sandy wrote:
Le 7/13/2009 15:24, Paul B. Anders a bien réfléchi et puis a déclaré:
On Jul 13, 1:10 pm, "Benjo wrote:

schreef in
berichtnews:jlrm555n1mbfvq0e0i00q1ngaageo3qrm5@4ax .com...






On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:34:47 -0700 (PDT), Dumbass
wrote:

Seems to me that Lance is in a difficult position.
I would think that Contador will have he green light to
break in the
Alps, and Lance will have a red light.
So, is he going to defy JB and break earlier than Contador?
Even doing some kind of late break after Contador in order
to keep his
GC gap down would be against marching orders I would think.
Assuming no big mistakes by Contador, his only hope would be:
1. A good TT to overtake Contador.
2. Another smart move into a successful break.
3. Some non-Astana GC contender closes the gap, so that
just staying
on that rider's wheel will allow him to not fall too far behind
Contador in the GC.
Otherwise he has to defy marching orders, which he might
do given the
fact that all the non-GC contenders are so far back that he might not
be putting the team goals at great risk.

JB will be on LA's team next year. Contador will be on some Spanish
team that has F1 technicians anxious to introduce carbon fiber and
space age metal to bicycle racing. LA has an open green light from JB
to do whatever necessary to attract sponsors and most of what is
'whatever necessary' has the potential to beat
Contador/Contradore/whoever. Contador is just a stocking horse now.

Right. As the Dutch newspaper De Volkskrant wrote today: Contador has
his
plans, Armstrong has his plans, but only Armstrong's plans match to
Bruyneel's. Bruyneel will do everything to help Armstrong. Besides,
Contador's position in the team is rather weak. He can only count on
Paulinho and to a certain extent on Zubeldia, whereas Armstrong can
count on
Leipheimer, Klöden, Popovich and Rast. Mutavjev isn't taking sides
yet, but
is inclining to support Armstrong. On the other hand: Contador's best
friends are not in Astana, but in Caisse d'Epargne. Luis Leon Sanchez
is a
close friend and teammanager Ledanois already said that they are
indebted to
what Contador did to them in Paris-Nice (LL Sanchez) and the Dauphiné
Libéré
(Valverde).

Benjo- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


So much is unknown or in doubt at this point - who has the legs, who
is calling the shots, who will provide support, who will follow orders
and who will not. Who will be a wild card? I suspect it will become
clearer somewhere on the road to Verbier.

I'm betting that regardless of orders, Contador will make the next
move.

Brad Anders

If I were Contador's manager, I'd make a sly call to KZ to see if there
might be some street money to collect a bit of an ersatz team.
Enemy/enemy/friend kind of thing.

Contador needs Alberto Puig as his manager.

On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:34:47 -0700 (PDT), Dumbass
wrote:

Seems to me that Lance is in a difficult position.

I would think that Contador will have he green light to break in the
Alps, and Lance will have a red light.

So, is he going to defy JB and break earlier than Contador?

I think the climb to Verbier is going to see hell unleashed, Popo,
Leppy and Kloden will ride a monster tempo at the foot, like USP circa
2004 and then LA will jump out.

Even doing some kind of late break after Contador in order to keep his
GC gap down would be against marching orders I would think.

Assuming no big mistakes by Contador, his only hope would be:

1. A good TT to overtake Contador.

2. Another smart move into a successful break.

3. Some non-Astana GC contender closes the gap, so that just staying
on that rider's wheel will allow him to not fall too far behind
Contador in the GC.

Otherwise he has to defy marching orders, which he might do given the
fact that all the non-GC contenders are so far back that he might not
be putting the team goals at great risk.

Keith wrote:

I think the climb to Verbier is going to see hell unleashed, Popo,
Leppy and Kloden will ride a monster tempo at the foot, like USP circa
2004 and then LA will jump out.

I agree, right up to the last 6 words. I just can't picture LA dropping
Contador. The only path to victory I can see for LA involves WADA's
help, or perhaps Jeff Gillooly's.

On Jul 13, 7:38*pm, Jim Feeley wrote:
....
So you're saying Astana team dinners will become re-enactments of the
"Where's The Poison" scene from Princess Bride?

At the very least, it seems like they're involved in a land war in
Europe (on an Asian team), and from a different scene, there's the
matter of a Spaniard giving his word not to attack on a climb.

Is there nothing that The Princess Bride cannot teach us?

Newsflash:

A doping incident leading to Contador's expulsion will NOT put LA into
the clear leadership role of Astana, because these days if any one
rider on a team tests 'non-negative', the entire team would be sent
packing. Especially a team with a history, however nebulous, of a
prior doping scandal.

No point in being the leader of a team that's been excluded from the
race, eh?