this is the "clean" Lance

Didn’t the Schleck brother have some money put aside for dope? I don’t
understand the obsession with Lance and doping. I seems there are
plenty of others with dubious connections. Suppose Lance is convicted
and his tour victories are thrown out like Landis, should Basso,
Ullrich, be given wins? Should Vinokourov move up? Oh I know we will
give all the wins to the last clean rider LeMond

No Tour winners, or winners with *, from 1991 onward. :-)

So you're saying that Maurice Garin was clean?

Sad to say - yes - Frank was doing it and it probably indicates that
they (or at least Frank) had the intention. I wish it wasn't so and
there's a part of me that would like to think that Andy is clean from
just something he said last year to his excited mother after a win
"It's only a bike race"

I'll bet many good pros are boosting at this point. There's just too
much info out there.

In article ,
Cicero Venatio wrote:

Yea, he's old, but I think what we are really seeing is what a "clean"
Lance looks like. LeMond was right, it seems. The investigators in the
Lance Armstrong investigation think they can either crack either George
or Tyler, so we will see who will be the next one to crack in the US
Postal saga. In the David Millar interrogation, French Police were able
to make him crack in only four hours under that warm lamp. All it will
take is one more to crack, and it's all over for Lance Inc. It's too
bad, that this had to happen, but Lance just couldn't let it lay, he had
to do just one more tour. This tour could be his whole undoing, placing
Greg once again at the top, as America's best cyclist ever.

Just think if Tugboat could have talked, it would have changed everything.

Was it good for you?

--
Old Fritz

On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 16:01:18 -0700 (PDT), RicodJour
wrote:

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What you are seeing is the erosion of Lance's mental invulnerability.
There's a physical component, of course, but at the top level of sport
it's a mental game. Tiger Woods certainly hasn't been tearing it up
since his illicit-and-oh-so-sweet pussy was taken away*, and similarly
Lance's realization that he is mortal is taking its toll.

You broke the code!!!

Back when Tiger was banging strange stuff damn near everyday, he was
on top of the golfing world. Now that his steady source of drop-dead
gorgeous, long-legged, firm-titted ass has been cut off, you see
what's happened to him.

Ditto for Lance.

Lance doesn't need any doping -- give him a few hours alone in the
shower with Angelina Jolie, and he'll win TFD #8 !!!!!!

On Jul 11, 7:26*pm, Anton Berlin wrote:
Sad to say - yes - Frank was doing it and it probably indicates that
they (or at least Frank) had the intention. I wish it wasn't so and
there's a part of me that would like to think that Andy is clean from
just something he said last year to his excited mother after a win
"It's only a bike race"



Dumbass -

Come on now.

Andy's not clean. His brother, with whom he does everything, is dirty
and who is his DS?

thanks,

Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.

On Jul 12, 12:16*am, "Kurgan. presented by Gringioni."
wrote:
On Jul 11, 7:26*pm, Anton Berlin wrote:

Sad to say - yes - Frank was doing it and it probably indicates that
they (or at least Frank) had the intention. I wish it wasn't so and
there's a part of me that would like to think that Andy is clean from
just something he said last year to his excited mother after a win
"It's only a bike race"

Dumbass -

Come on now.

Andy's not clean. His brother, with whom he does everything, is dirty
and who is his DS?

thanks,

Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.

I know. I agree. But I like to think it isn't that way.

"B. Lafferty" a ¨¦crit profondement:

| Didn¡¯t the Schleck brother have some money put aside for dope? I don¡¯t
| understand the obsession with Lance and doping. I seems there are
| plenty of others with dubious connections. Suppose Lance is convicted
| and his tour victories are thrown out like Landis, should Basso,
| Ullrich, be given wins? Should Vinokourov move up? Oh I know we will
| give all the wins to the last clean rider LeMond

| No Tour winners, or winners with *, from 1991 onward. :-)

1991? It's been Doped or Fixed ever since the first Tour I ever
followed, (the one Leatherhead won).

But there's a big difference between then and now.......

Way back when, we knew it was Fixed and Doped, but we didn't worry
about it, whereas now the world seems preoccupied with the scandalous
side of things.

It's ANY sport, not just Cycling.

Case in point:::
Note the date on the editorial for I wrote for a website I run
http://69.165.217.79:6080/rbr/espana.html

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US Sets new World Record - Go, Go, M'Bongo
Two weeks ago America's debt went up by $166 billion in a single day,
a single day run-up greater than the entire U.S. annual deficit in 2007.

RicodJour wrote:
What you are seeing is the erosion of Lance's mental invulnerability.
There's a physical component, of course, but at the top level of sport
it's a mental game. Tiger Woods certainly hasn't been tearing it up
since his illicit-and-oh-so-sweet pussy was taken away*, and similarly
Lance's realization that he is mortal is taking its toll.

Sounds like he needs twin pussies:
http://5z8.info/russian-brides_p3o7x_-49exploit-begin--

On 7/12/2010 4:51 AM, Davey Crockett wrote:
"B. Lafferty" a ¨¦crit profondement:

| Didn¡¯t the Schleck brother have some money put aside for dope? I don¡¯t
| understand the obsession with Lance and doping. I seems there are
| plenty of others with dubious connections. Suppose Lance is convicted
| and his tour victories are thrown out like Landis, should Basso,
| Ullrich, be given wins? Should Vinokourov move up? Oh I know we will
| give all the wins to the last clean rider LeMond

| No Tour winners, or winners with *, from 1991 onward. :-)

1991? It's been Doped or Fixed ever since the first Tour I ever
followed, (the one Leatherhead won).

But there's a big difference between then and now.......

Way back when, we knew it was Fixed and Doped, but we didn't worry
about it, whereas now the world seems preoccupied with the scandalous
side of things.

It's ANY sport, not just Cycling.

Case in point:::
Note the date on the editorial for I wrote for a website I run
http://69.165.217.79:6080/rbr/espana.html

I agree. Before the advent of EPO and other preparation since then, the
doping was rather quaint. It was designed primarily to mask pain and
get the rider through the stage/race.

On 7/11/2010 10:19 PM, Cicero Venatio wrote:


Didn’t the Schleck brother have some money put aside for dope? I don’t
understand the obsession with Lance and doping. I seems there are
plenty of others with dubious connections. Suppose Lance is convicted
and his tour victories are thrown out like Landis, should Basso,
Ullrich, be given wins? Should Vinokourov move up? Oh I know we will
give all the wins to the last clean rider LeMond

No Tour winners, or winners with *, from 1991 onward. :-)

So you're saying that Maurice Garin was clean?
Nope.