Jan's crash

"Boyd Speerschneider" wrote in message
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(David N. Welton) wrote in
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It's not *impossible* to ride with a collapsed lung, just painful
and
you don't have much breath. Mine wasn't diagnosed immediately
(idiot
doctor thought it was asthma) and I kept riding - but couldn't
climb
worth ****.

If *you* couldn't climb worth **** with a collapsed lung, what are
the odds
of Peschel hanging onto the back of the TDF peloton?

It all depends on the actual problem. Moreover, the peloton is going
to go really slow tomorrow in all likelihood. This has been an intense
Tour and the Green Jersey is still in contention.

COME ON BADEN!!!

"Kurgan Gringioni" writes:

"Boyd Speerschneider" wrote in message
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(David N. Welton) wrote in
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snip

It's not *impossible* to ride with a collapsed lung, just painful and
you don't have much breath. Mine wasn't diagnosed immediately (idiot
doctor thought it was asthma) and I kept riding - but couldn't climb
worth ****.

If *you* couldn't climb worth **** with a collapsed lung, what are the
odds
of Peschel hanging onto the back of the TDF peloton?



Peschel can make it. Tommorrow is champagne and parade day and the time is
taken when they enter the Champs. After they get on the Champs, Peschel just
needs to finish all 10 laps.

Especially if he lays off the cigs.

-Gerard

Look at this link:

http://www.nyracer.com/friction.htm

Essentially, If you are using all of your tire's available traction in one
direction, and then add to the demands you loose control. For instance,
braking very hard and then turning in while braking. All of the tires
available traction is used for braking, the introduced later force puts the
resultant required friction vector outside of the circle. This is why
racecar drivers do all braking in a straight line before entering the
corner. Of course those truly great drivers can manage the friction circle
a little better and trail brake.

The rain line basically involves crossing the normal line in as close to 90
degree angles as possible. This is due the polishing affect traffic has on
the pavement. The off line surface is usually rougher and offers more
grip. There are obviously exceptions to this.

"Boyd Speerschneider" wrote in message
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"Tim South" wrote in news:qmyUa.6805$dO2.1527
@fe2.columbus.rr.com:

Yep,

All of you racing driver's/enthusiasts know about the "friction circle"
and
the "rain line".

How about explaining these terms for those of us who only race bikes?

TIA,

- Boyd S.