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  #21  
Old January 8th 08, 09:54 PM posted to aus.bicycle
John Tserkezis
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Terryc wrote:

Majority rules
'Everyone' is a pedestrian
'Everyone' is a car driver


Really?
Based on bicycle sales verses car sales, the more correct statement is
"Everyone is a bicycle rider".


You forgot the bit about "80% of families with bicycles only take said
bicycles out twice per year".

So it may be more correct to say that 'everyone is more likely to walk than
bicycle, and more likely to car than walk'.
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Old January 8th 08, 10:11 PM posted to aus.bicycle
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John Tserkezis Wrote:

You forgot the bit about "80% of families with bicycles only take said
bicycles out twice per year".

So it may be more correct to say that 'everyone is more likely to walk
than
bicycle, and more likely to car than walk'.


Where's the citable references for those quotes?


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Old January 8th 08, 10:16 PM posted to aus.bicycle
Theo Bekkers
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Bleve wrote:
John Tserkezis wrote:


Australian drivers are not headed for a troublesome future,
because nothing will change. They won't even realise they're
killing themselves, because GovCo has over umpteen years conditioned
them to think that speeding alone is the only one reason that anyone
dies on the roads.


Their wallets will force them off the road soon enough.
Things *are* changing.

http://www.aboc.com.au/Members/carl/...PriceTrend.gif


Nice graph. So how many people were f'orced off the road' in 1979, when the
price of crude went up 170% in six months?

People who don't smoke think that when the price of a packet of fags gets to
$10 people will stop smoking. It passed that point some time ago and people
still smoke. A lot of people spend more on tobacco than on petrol, and let's
not mention beer spending.

Theo


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Old January 8th 08, 10:29 PM posted to aus.bicycle
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cfsmtb Wrote:
Where's the citable references for those quotes?


John Tserkezis usenet:aus.bicycle 2008

:P


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Old January 8th 08, 10:37 PM posted to aus.bicycle
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kanangara Wrote:
John Tserkezis usenet:aus.bicycle 2008

:P


*boom*

*tish*

Although I don't think that would be accepted when writing submissions.



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Old January 8th 08, 10:48 PM posted to aus.bicycle
John Tserkezis
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cfsmtb wrote:

Where's the citable references for those quotes?


Er, "I read about it on the Internet, so it must be true".

True story, it was an (online) SMH article that claimed that. (the 80% bit,
not the who rides what bit).
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Old January 9th 08, 12:26 AM posted to aus.bicycle
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John Tserkezis wrote:
Terryc wrote:

Majority rules
'Everyone' is a pedestrian
'Everyone' is a car driver



Really?
Based on bicycle sales verses car sales, the more correct statement is
"Everyone is a bicycle rider".



You forgot the bit about "80% of families with bicycles only take said
bicycles out twice per year".

So it may be more correct to say that 'everyone is more likely to walk
than bicycle, and more likely to car than walk'.


Your logic is faulty. Perhaps if you bicycled more blood flow to the
brain might improve.
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Old January 9th 08, 12:28 AM posted to aus.bicycle
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Zebee Johnstone wrote:
In aus.bicycle on Wed, 09 Jan 2008 02:00:53 +1100
Terryc wrote:

PeteSig wrote:


Majority rules

'Everyone' is a pedestrian

'Everyone' is a car driver


Really?
Based on bicycle sales verses car sales, the more correct statement is
"Everyone is a bicycle rider".



No. "Everyone is a bicycle buyer".

You can't deduce more than that.


So the same applies to car?
If not, why not?

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Old January 9th 08, 12:30 AM posted to aus.bicycle
Terryc[_3_]
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John Tserkezis wrote:
cfsmtb wrote:

Where's the citable references for those quotes?



Er, "I read about it on the Internet, so it must be true".

True story, it was an (online) SMH article that claimed that. (the 80%
bit, not the who rides what bit).


Well at least the SMH is marginally more readable than the Terror or the
Heretic or the ague or whatever, but 99% of their column inches reads
like arse pluck anyway.
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Old January 9th 08, 12:49 AM posted to aus.bicycle
Zebee Johnstone
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In aus.bicycle on Wed, 09 Jan 2008 11:28:02 +1100
Terryc wrote:
Zebee Johnstone wrote:

No. "Everyone is a bicycle buyer".

You can't deduce more than that.


So the same applies to car?
If not, why not?


Of course it does. If all you know is "X cars sold" then that's all
you know. You don't know how many trips are made, how many people
travel in them, or how many km are covered.

You can, of course, get more information. Such as number of cars seen
on the road, number of places selling 2nd hand ones, number of repair
shops, amount of petrol sold and all that.

But if all you know is number sold, that's all you know.

Zebee
 




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