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Road Bicycle Helmets Offer Inadequate Protection for Mountain Biking
On Mar 9, 3:09*pm, Shraga wrote:
On Mar 9, 4:24*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Mar 9, 6:52*am, Shraga wrote: On Mar 8, 12:51*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Mar 8, 6:51*am, Shraga wrote: On Mar 8, 5:12*am, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Mar 7, 1:08*pm, Shraga wrote: On Mar 7, 2:58*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Mar 7, 8:40*am, Shraga wrote: On Mar 6, 11:46*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Mar 6, 8:59*am, Shraga wrote: You are an idiot, like ALL mountain bikers. Horseback riding is only dangerous when MOUNTAIN BIKERS endanger equestrians.. You are fooling no one except yourself. The fact that you are doubling down on this ridiculous claim is more proof of your insanity. Please read this article: http://www.nature.com/sc/journal/v40...280a.html#tbl7 Although I know it's a challenge, try to pay close attention to Table 7, which lists the "causative factors." The types of equestrian activities listed as a "causation" (i.e., "causes" of the injuries) include "racing, course racing, show jumping, dressage, horse trials and eventing, rodeo events and polo" among others. While you may not support these activities, they do, in fact, involve "horseback riding" and, as the article shows, do result in injuries. So, please explain how mountain bikers endanger equestrians during dressage events. And when you're done with that, please post the evidence that proves that these injuries NEVER occurred prior to the existence of mountain bikers. As I said, any sport that requires a helmet is insane. What part of that don't you understand? Mountain biking seems to be the most dangerous of those, judging by the number & severity of accidents.. That's not what my response is addressing, idiot. Learn to READ. What you wrote, liar, and now refuse to address is, "Horseback riding is only dangerous when MOUNTAIN BIKERS endanger equestrians." I proved the contrary, and you are to much of a coward to admit it. BS. You only proved that equestrians sometimes use helmets, NOT that they are REQUIRED. Learn to READ, idiot. Odd. I apparently mistook you for someone with an IQ above room- temperature. I OBVIOUSLY showed you that equestrians sustain injuries independent of mountain biker activity. Yet now you are going on about helmets. You are just like a politician responding at a debate... Someone asks you a question, and you provide an answer that has nothing to do with it. You wrote: "Horseback riding is only dangerous when MOUNTAIN BIKERS endanger equestrians." That is CLEARLY a lie; you were caught, and now you are AFRAID to address it. Nope. True. You have proved nothing. That's a childish claim, considering you can't refute what I wrote. It's also a typical politician's response. I backed you into a corner and you have nothing left but a baseless denial. The evidence that equestrians sustain injuries independent of mountain biker activity is in that Nature reference for everyone to see... Well, everyone but YOU, I guess, since you can't read. There's nothing to refute, since you never proved that horseback riding is so dangerous that it REQUIRES one to wear a helmet. Until you do that, you are only blowing hot air, as usual. QED Wow. So now when you can't refute someone, you resort to DELETING the portion of the text that exceeds your understanding? Is there no end to your dishonesty? I put it back for you. You're welcome. I will repeat it for a fourth time. Maybe you'll get it this time, moron. You wrote this IDIOTIC sentence: "Horseback riding is only dangerous when MOUNTAIN BIKERS endanger equestrians." That is true. Congratulations! That's the first time you were able to follow the thread. Now, if only you could learn to read... *That is CLEARLY a lie; you were caught, and now you are AFRAID to address it. That is what I'm addressing here. Not helmets, moron. You are desperately trying to change the subject to something you think you can refute, but it won't work. All you're doing is proving you can't follow a simple conversation. You can't address your own comment honestly. That proves you lied. QED, idiot. You proved NOTHING. Blah, blah blah. Your lack of a reasoned response shows otherwise. You haven't been able to muster a coherent response yet; so your denial is baseless. Senility is apparently getting the best of you. In 1937 Cole Porter was crippled in a riding accident. How did a mountain biker endanger Cole Porter? Here, again, since you are afraid to read it, is the article from Nature that breaks down the incidence of equestrian injuries: http://www.nature.com/sc/journal/v40...280a.html#tbl7 In light of those examples, address your moronic statement that, "Horseback riding is only dangerous when MOUNTAIN BIKERS endanger equestrians." And by "address", I mean act like a grown up, not like a pouting child whose most sophisticated response is "did not!" or similar pathetic denial. Of course you won't, because you can't. I guess you didn't actually READ the article you cited: "The most serious injuries occur during the jumping phase". It is talking about COMPETITION, which we aren't discussing. We are discussing normal trail riding, which is NOT dangerous, except when mountain bikers are on the trail. QED DUH! Flail about as much as you want, and cite irrelevant articles, but you still can't refute me, because, as you werll know, I am RIGHT! As usual. |
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Road Bicycle Helmets Offer Inadequate Protection for Mountain Biking
On Mar 20, 3:12*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Mar 9, 3:09*pm, Shraga wrote: On Mar 9, 4:24*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Mar 9, 6:52*am, Shraga wrote: On Mar 8, 12:51*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Mar 8, 6:51*am, Shraga wrote: On Mar 8, 5:12*am, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Mar 7, 1:08*pm, Shraga wrote: On Mar 7, 2:58*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Mar 7, 8:40*am, Shraga wrote: On Mar 6, 11:46*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Mar 6, 8:59*am, Shraga wrote: You are an idiot, like ALL mountain bikers. Horseback riding is only dangerous when MOUNTAIN BIKERS endanger equestrians. You are fooling no one except yourself. The fact that you are doubling down on this ridiculous claim is more proof of your insanity. Please read this article: http://www.nature.com/sc/journal/v40...280a.html#tbl7 Although I know it's a challenge, try to pay close attention to Table 7, which lists the "causative factors." The types of equestrian activities listed as a "causation" (i.e., "causes" of the injuries) include "racing, course racing, show jumping, dressage, horse trials and eventing, rodeo events and polo" among others. While you may not support these activities, they do, in fact, involve "horseback riding" and, as the article shows, do result in injuries. So, please explain how mountain bikers endanger equestrians during dressage events. And when you're done with that, please post the evidence that proves that these injuries NEVER occurred prior to the existence of mountain bikers. As I said, any sport that requires a helmet is insane.. What part of that don't you understand? Mountain biking seems to be the most dangerous of those, judging by the number & severity of accidents.. That's not what my response is addressing, idiot. Learn to READ. What you wrote, liar, and now refuse to address is, "Horseback riding is only dangerous when MOUNTAIN BIKERS endanger equestrians." I proved the contrary, and you are to much of a coward to admit it. BS. You only proved that equestrians sometimes use helmets, NOT that they are REQUIRED. Learn to READ, idiot. Odd. I apparently mistook you for someone with an IQ above room- temperature. I OBVIOUSLY showed you that equestrians sustain injuries independent of mountain biker activity. Yet now you are going on about helmets. You are just like a politician responding at a debate... Someone asks you a question, and you provide an answer that has nothing to do with it. You wrote: "Horseback riding is only dangerous when MOUNTAIN BIKERS endanger equestrians." That is CLEARLY a lie; you were caught, and now you are AFRAID to address it. Nope. True. You have proved nothing. That's a childish claim, considering you can't refute what I wrote. It's also a typical politician's response. I backed you into a corner and you have nothing left but a baseless denial. The evidence that equestrians sustain injuries independent of mountain biker activity is in that Nature reference for everyone to see... Well, everyone but YOU, I guess, since you can't read. There's nothing to refute, since you never proved that horseback riding is so dangerous that it REQUIRES one to wear a helmet. Until you do that, you are only blowing hot air, as usual. QED Wow. So now when you can't refute someone, you resort to DELETING the portion of the text that exceeds your understanding? Is there no end to your dishonesty? I put it back for you. You're welcome. I will repeat it for a fourth time. Maybe you'll get it this time, moron. You wrote this IDIOTIC sentence: "Horseback riding is only dangerous when MOUNTAIN BIKERS endanger equestrians." That is true. Congratulations! That's the first time you were able to follow the thread. Now, if only you could learn to read... *That is CLEARLY a lie; you were caught, and now you are AFRAID to address it. That is what I'm addressing here. Not helmets, moron. You are desperately trying to change the subject to something you think you can refute, but it won't work. All you're doing is proving you can't follow a simple conversation. You can't address your own comment honestly. That proves you lied. QED, idiot. You proved NOTHING. Blah, blah blah. Your lack of a reasoned response shows otherwise. You haven't been able to muster a coherent response yet; so your denial is baseless. Senility is apparently getting the best of you. In 1937 Cole Porter was crippled in a riding accident. How did a mountain biker endanger Cole Porter? Here, again, since you are afraid to read it, is the article from Nature that breaks down the incidence of equestrian injuries: http://www.nature.com/sc/journal/v40...280a.html#tbl7 In light of those examples, address your moronic statement that, "Horseback riding is only dangerous when MOUNTAIN BIKERS endanger equestrians." And by "address", I mean act like a grown up, not like a pouting child whose most sophisticated response is "did not!" or similar pathetic denial. Of course you won't, because you can't. I guess you didn't actually READ the article you cited: "The most serious injuries occur during the jumping phase". It is talking about COMPETITION, which we aren't discussing. We are discussing normal trail riding, which is NOT dangerous, except when mountain bikers are on the trail. QED DUH! Flail about as much as you want, and cite irrelevant articles, but you still can't refute me, because, as you werll know, I am RIGHT! As usual. Normal mountain biking isn't competition either, thus it does NOT require special equipment negating this entire thread you started. You can't refute that. |
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Road Bicycle Helmets Offer Inadequate Protection for Mountain Biking
On Mar 20, 3:12*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Mar 9, 3:09*pm, Shraga wrote: On Mar 9, 4:24*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Mar 9, 6:52*am, Shraga wrote: On Mar 8, 12:51*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Mar 8, 6:51*am, Shraga wrote: On Mar 8, 5:12*am, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Mar 7, 1:08*pm, Shraga wrote: On Mar 7, 2:58*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Mar 7, 8:40*am, Shraga wrote: On Mar 6, 11:46*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Mar 6, 8:59*am, Shraga wrote: You are an idiot, like ALL mountain bikers. Horseback riding is only dangerous when MOUNTAIN BIKERS endanger equestrians. You are fooling no one except yourself. The fact that you are doubling down on this ridiculous claim is more proof of your insanity. Please read this article: http://www.nature.com/sc/journal/v40...280a.html#tbl7 Although I know it's a challenge, try to pay close attention to Table 7, which lists the "causative factors." The types of equestrian activities listed as a "causation" (i.e., "causes" of the injuries) include "racing, course racing, show jumping, dressage, horse trials and eventing, rodeo events and polo" among others. While you may not support these activities, they do, in fact, involve "horseback riding" and, as the article shows, do result in injuries. So, please explain how mountain bikers endanger equestrians during dressage events. And when you're done with that, please post the evidence that proves that these injuries NEVER occurred prior to the existence of mountain bikers. As I said, any sport that requires a helmet is insane.. What part of that don't you understand? Mountain biking seems to be the most dangerous of those, judging by the number & severity of accidents.. That's not what my response is addressing, idiot. Learn to READ. What you wrote, liar, and now refuse to address is, "Horseback riding is only dangerous when MOUNTAIN BIKERS endanger equestrians." I proved the contrary, and you are to much of a coward to admit it. BS. You only proved that equestrians sometimes use helmets, NOT that they are REQUIRED. Learn to READ, idiot. Odd. I apparently mistook you for someone with an IQ above room- temperature. I OBVIOUSLY showed you that equestrians sustain injuries independent of mountain biker activity. Yet now you are going on about helmets. You are just like a politician responding at a debate... Someone asks you a question, and you provide an answer that has nothing to do with it. You wrote: "Horseback riding is only dangerous when MOUNTAIN BIKERS endanger equestrians." That is CLEARLY a lie; you were caught, and now you are AFRAID to address it. Nope. True. You have proved nothing. That's a childish claim, considering you can't refute what I wrote. It's also a typical politician's response. I backed you into a corner and you have nothing left but a baseless denial. The evidence that equestrians sustain injuries independent of mountain biker activity is in that Nature reference for everyone to see... Well, everyone but YOU, I guess, since you can't read. There's nothing to refute, since you never proved that horseback riding is so dangerous that it REQUIRES one to wear a helmet. Until you do that, you are only blowing hot air, as usual. QED Wow. So now when you can't refute someone, you resort to DELETING the portion of the text that exceeds your understanding? Is there no end to your dishonesty? I put it back for you. You're welcome. I will repeat it for a fourth time. Maybe you'll get it this time, moron. You wrote this IDIOTIC sentence: "Horseback riding is only dangerous when MOUNTAIN BIKERS endanger equestrians." That is true. Congratulations! That's the first time you were able to follow the thread. Now, if only you could learn to read... *That is CLEARLY a lie; you were caught, and now you are AFRAID to address it. That is what I'm addressing here. Not helmets, moron. You are desperately trying to change the subject to something you think you can refute, but it won't work. All you're doing is proving you can't follow a simple conversation. You can't address your own comment honestly. That proves you lied. QED, idiot. You proved NOTHING. Blah, blah blah. Your lack of a reasoned response shows otherwise. You haven't been able to muster a coherent response yet; so your denial is baseless. Senility is apparently getting the best of you. In 1937 Cole Porter was crippled in a riding accident. How did a mountain biker endanger Cole Porter? Here, again, since you are afraid to read it, is the article from Nature that breaks down the incidence of equestrian injuries: http://www.nature.com/sc/journal/v40...280a.html#tbl7 In light of those examples, address your moronic statement that, "Horseback riding is only dangerous when MOUNTAIN BIKERS endanger equestrians." And by "address", I mean act like a grown up, not like a pouting child whose most sophisticated response is "did not!" or similar pathetic denial. Of course you won't, because you can't. I guess you didn't actually READ the article you cited: "The most serious injuries occur during the jumping phase". It is talking about COMPETITION, which we aren't discussing. We are discussing normal trail riding, which is NOT dangerous, except when mountain bikers are on the trail. QED DUH! Flail about as much as you want, and cite irrelevant articles, but you still can't refute me, because, as you werll know, I am RIGHT! As usual. No, Mike, I do not "werll know" you're right. As usual, you are cherry- picking the small bits of the article that make your case and ignore the ones that don't. For example, the article also cites a study based on analysis of 1,000 riding accident hospital admissions, which found "one injury for 100 h of leisure riding." See that, moron? LEISURE riding. Still want to claim the article is about competition? I really feel sorry for you now. It's taken you over a week to try to read that article, and still you can't do it. Your existence is insulting to everyone who has earned a Ph.D. Regardless, you are STILL trying to change the subject. And you are STILL HIDING from the other responses I've provided, which you can't refute. Again, you stated "horseback riding is *only* dangerous when MOUNTAIN BIKERS endanger equestrians" [emphasis mine]. Since making that ridiculous claim, you backed off a little and have revised that statement to include a minuscule subset of "horseback riding" called "normal trail riding." Whatever that is... Still, I'll let it go because of your remedial reading skills. Now, using available literature, prove that "normal trail riding" was not dangerous before the existence of mountain biking. Prediction: you won't, because you can't. |
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Road Bicycle Helmets Offer Inadequate Protection for Mountain Biking
On Mar 20, 2:46*pm, Len McGoogle wrote:
On Mar 20, 3:12*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Mar 9, 3:09*pm, Shraga wrote: On Mar 9, 4:24*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Mar 9, 6:52*am, Shraga wrote: On Mar 8, 12:51*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Mar 8, 6:51*am, Shraga wrote: On Mar 8, 5:12*am, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Mar 7, 1:08*pm, Shraga wrote: On Mar 7, 2:58*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Mar 7, 8:40*am, Shraga wrote: On Mar 6, 11:46*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Mar 6, 8:59*am, Shraga wrote: You are an idiot, like ALL mountain bikers. Horseback riding is only dangerous when MOUNTAIN BIKERS endanger equestrians. You are fooling no one except yourself. The fact that you are doubling down on this ridiculous claim is more proof of your insanity. Please read this article: http://www.nature.com/sc/journal/v40...280a.html#tbl7 Although I know it's a challenge, try to pay close attention to Table 7, which lists the "causative factors." The types of equestrian activities listed as a "causation" (i.e., "causes" of the injuries) include "racing, course racing, show jumping, dressage, horse trials and eventing, rodeo events and polo" among others.. While you may not support these activities, they do, in fact, involve "horseback riding" and, as the article shows, do result in injuries. So, please explain how mountain bikers endanger equestrians during dressage events. And when you're done with that, please post the evidence that proves that these injuries NEVER occurred prior to the existence of mountain bikers. As I said, any sport that requires a helmet is insane. What part of that don't you understand? Mountain biking seems to be the most dangerous of those, judging by the number & severity of accidents.. That's not what my response is addressing, idiot. Learn to READ. What you wrote, liar, and now refuse to address is, "Horseback riding is only dangerous when MOUNTAIN BIKERS endanger equestrians." I proved the contrary, and you are to much of a coward to admit it. BS. You only proved that equestrians sometimes use helmets, NOT that they are REQUIRED. Learn to READ, idiot. Odd. I apparently mistook you for someone with an IQ above room- temperature. I OBVIOUSLY showed you that equestrians sustain injuries independent of mountain biker activity. Yet now you are going on about helmets. You are just like a politician responding at a debate... Someone asks you a question, and you provide an answer that has nothing to do with it. You wrote: "Horseback riding is only dangerous when MOUNTAIN BIKERS endanger equestrians." That is CLEARLY a lie; you were caught, and now you are AFRAID to address it. Nope. True. You have proved nothing. That's a childish claim, considering you can't refute what I wrote. It's also a typical politician's response. I backed you into a corner and you have nothing left but a baseless denial. The evidence that equestrians sustain injuries independent of mountain biker activity is in that Nature reference for everyone to see... Well, everyone but YOU, I guess, since you can't read. There's nothing to refute, since you never proved that horseback riding is so dangerous that it REQUIRES one to wear a helmet. Until you do that, you are only blowing hot air, as usual. QED Wow. So now when you can't refute someone, you resort to DELETING the portion of the text that exceeds your understanding? Is there no end to your dishonesty? I put it back for you. You're welcome. I will repeat it for a fourth time. Maybe you'll get it this time, moron. You wrote this IDIOTIC sentence: "Horseback riding is only dangerous when MOUNTAIN BIKERS endanger equestrians." That is true. Congratulations! That's the first time you were able to follow the thread. Now, if only you could learn to read... *That is CLEARLY a lie; you were caught, and now you are AFRAID to address it. That is what I'm addressing here. Not helmets, moron. You are desperately trying to change the subject to something you think you can refute, but it won't work. All you're doing is proving you can't follow a simple conversation. You can't address your own comment honestly. That proves you lied.. QED, idiot. You proved NOTHING. Blah, blah blah. Your lack of a reasoned response shows otherwise. You haven't been able to muster a coherent response yet; so your denial is baseless. Senility is apparently getting the best of you. In 1937 Cole Porter was crippled in a riding accident. How did a mountain biker endanger Cole Porter? Here, again, since you are afraid to read it, is the article from Nature that breaks down the incidence of equestrian injuries: http://www.nature.com/sc/journal/v40...280a.html#tbl7 In light of those examples, address your moronic statement that, "Horseback riding is only dangerous when MOUNTAIN BIKERS endanger equestrians." And by "address", I mean act like a grown up, not like a pouting child whose most sophisticated response is "did not!" or similar pathetic denial. Of course you won't, because you can't. I guess you didn't actually READ the article you cited: "The most serious injuries occur during the jumping phase". It is talking about COMPETITION, which we aren't discussing. We are discussing normal trail riding, which is NOT dangerous, except when mountain bikers are on the trail. QED DUH! Flail about as much as you want, and cite irrelevant articles, but you still can't refute me, because, as you werll know, I am RIGHT! As usual. Normal mountain biking isn't competition either, thus it does NOT require special equipment negating this entire thread you started. You can't refute that. You can refute it by not wearing any helmet. Let us know how that goes! Idiot. |
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