durable rim suggestions

After 9 years of trouble free service, the rear rim on my bike cracked
at one of the spoke holes. I want to reuse the Phil Wood freewheel hub
and have another durable wheel built.
The old wheel was a Mavic MA40 36h with straight 14 gauge spokes. I
weigh 210 lbs. and ride on smooth and rough pavement. Any suggestions
for a good rim to use? Torelli Master? Mavic MA3? Mavic Open Pro?
Bontrager Maverick? Sun CR-18?

Thanks,
Benny

winter- I want to reuse the Phil Wood freewheel hub
and have another durable wheel built.
The old wheel was a Mavic MA40 36h with straight 14 gauge spokes. I
weigh 210 lbs. and ride on smooth and rough pavement. Any suggestions
for a good rim to use? Torelli Master? Mavic MA3? Mavic Open Pro? BRBR

Velocity Fusion, Deep V or Razor
Mavic CXP-33
Torelli Master or Expert

Stay away from the MA-3. We just had another one we built pull the eyelets out.
About a dozen so far.

Peter Chisholm
Vecchio's Bicicletteria
1833 Pearl St.
Boulder, CO, 80302
(303)440-3535
http://www.vecchios.com
"Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

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winter- I want to reuse the Phil Wood freewheel hub
and have another durable wheel built.
The old wheel was a Mavic MA40 36h with straight 14 gauge spokes. I
weigh 210 lbs. and ride on smooth and rough pavement. Any suggestions
for a good rim to use? Torelli Master? Mavic MA3? Mavic Open Pro? BRBR

Velocity Fusion, Deep V or Razor
Mavic CXP-33
Torelli Master or Expert

Stay away from the MA-3. We just had another one we built pull the eyelets
out.
About a dozen so far.

I hope you complained to Mavic. Maybe they will bring back the superior
MA-2.
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Alex

wrote:
After 9 years of trouble free service, the rear rim on my bike cracked
at one of the spoke holes. I want to reuse the Phil Wood freewheel hub
and have another durable wheel built.
The old wheel was a Mavic MA40 36h with straight 14 gauge spokes. I
weigh 210 lbs. and ride on smooth and rough pavement. Any suggestions
for a good rim to use? Torelli Master? Mavic MA3? Mavic Open Pro?
Bontrager Maverick? Sun CR-18?

Open Pro has sockets at the spoke holes that enables each spoke to pull on
more than just the inner wall. So it's better than many other rims in
that respect, less likely to crack at the holes. That's not to say it's
strong enough for you altogether (I would think so but it depends how
rough the "rough" is).

~PB

adr- I hope you complained to Mavic. Maybe they will bring back the superior
MA-2. BRBR

After about 8, we still got the 'really, that sure is unusual' standard
response.

BUT they took all our inventory of MA-3 back. Doubt the MA-2 will come back.

Peter Chisholm
Vecchio's Bicicletteria
1833 Pearl St.
Boulder, CO, 80302
(303)440-3535
http://www.vecchios.com
"Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

"Gary Young" wrote

I've used CR-18s for years and am very pleased with their price, their
lack of sidewall machining and their durability. They're often used by
touring cyclists. They're quite a bit heavier than the Open Pro or
the Master, though.

I went with a CR-18 for my fixed gear rear wheel, since I weigh 235 and FG
rears take a bit of a beating. After several years and ~10K miles it's still
going strong.

On 23 Jun 2004 12:29:07 GMT, (Qui si parla
Campagnolo ) wrote:


Velocity Fusion, Deep V or Razor
Mavic CXP-33
Torelli Master or Expert


Thanks. What about the Velocity Aerohead and Aerohead OC? I would like
to have a slightly lighter wheel, but not at the cost of durability.

Anyone know of a good wheelbuilder in Georgia? The local guys came up
in the days of designer wheels and don't really have the skills.

Benny

On 25 Jun 2004 12:58:28 GMT, (Qui si parla
Campagnolo ) wrote:

winter Thanks. What about the Velocity Aerohead and Aerohead OC? I would like
to have a slightly lighter wheel, but not at the cost of durability. BRBR

No such thing as a free lunch. I think you are a bit heavy for an Aerohead on
the rear.

I weigh ~200 lbs and run Aerohead rims 32 hole with 15/16 spokes and
they are fine. I built a set of tandem wheels on an Aerohead OC rear,
36 holes x 14/15 ga on 130 spaced hubs. The tandem team and bike ~280
lbs. The owner reports the wheelset to be stable and hasn't touched
them with a spoke wrench yet.

On 26 Jun 2004 12:59:06 GMT, (Qui si parla
Campagnolo ) wrote:

Paul- I weigh ~200 lbs and run Aerohead rims 32 hole with 15/16 spokes and
they are fine. I built a set of tandem wheels on an Aerohead OC rear,
36 holes x 14/15 ga on 130 spaced hubs. The tandem team and bike ~280
lbs. The owner reports the wheelset to be stable and hasn't touched
them with a spoke wrench yet. BRBR

Fine and dandy. Why try to save 40 grams on a package that weighs 220 to 280
pounds??

As a wheelbuilder that must stand behind every wheel I build, I say Aeroheads
for a .1 of a ton rider is foolish and on a tandem ridiculous.


There is no reason not to use 15/16 ga spokes on a wheel vs the 14/15.
The spokes dont break or wear out. I was using 28 hole wheelsets with
14/15 ga. Prebuilt wheels like Cane Creek, Helium, Velomax, American
Classic, and others still use only 28 holes, or less.

The tandem wheel was what the owner wanted and is a weak choice.
Originally, they had Ksyriums that kept failing. Additionally, they
insist on 700x23 Michelin Pro Race tires, another very poor choice.
The tandem is a Cafee Dragonfly and weight is everything.

On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 14:33:39 GMT, Paul Kopit
wrote:

The tandem wheel was what the owner wanted and is a weak choice.
Originally, they had Ksyriums that kept failing. Additionally, they
insist on 700x23 Michelin Pro Race tires, another very poor choice.
The tandem is a Cafee Dragonfly and weight is everything.

Obviously they had very different priorities than mine. I'm looking
for a durable trouble free wheelset built on my existing Phil Wood 36h
hubs. The MA-40 rims gave me 9 good years (about 14,000 miles) but I
don't want another hard anodized rim. If the MA-2 were still in
production, I'd have no decision to make. The best I can tell from the
reseach I've done is that the Torelli Master is the closest I can get
to the MA-2.
At 210 lbs, I'm not going to get too silly about grams, but I would
prefer a wheel slightly lighter than what I've had, definitely not
heavier. How much lighter is a 36 spoke wheel using 14/15 db spokes
vs. the straight 14 spokes I has before? How much lighter for 15/16?

Benny