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Is there a way to tighten spokes without a spoke tightening tool? (there's a tonguetwister for you) Perhaps using pliers or something. (If you hadn't noticed I'm not particularly technically minded, I just ride the buggers) -- MrBoogiejuice ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MrBoogiejuice's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/5515 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/30394 |
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You can get a cheap spoke tool for £2 or a good one (park) for £5. Well worth it for a unicyclist. Spoke nipple are fairly soft and are easy to damage with the wrong tool (eg pliers). A small adjustable panner might just work but you'd be a lott better of getting the right tool There are a few different sizes so take your uni along to the shop. -- nickjb - one wheel short ------------------------------------------------------------------------ nickjb's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/1074 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/30394 |
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you truely are a wealth of useful information, ta very muchly -- MrBoogiejuice ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MrBoogiejuice's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/5515 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/30394 |
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You can use a flat screwdriver, but you will have to take off the tyre to get at the nipples, this is my prefered method to true a wheel as I don't have to think to hard about which way to turn the nipple. This mehod only works though untill the thread starts to stick out the top of the nipple. -- Matt.P.Herbert ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Matt.P.Herbert's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/5486 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/30394 |
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On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 07:29:16 -0600, MrBoogiejuice wrote:
Is there a way to tighten spokes without a spoke tightening tool? (there's a tonguetwister for you) It's a mindtwister as well. In a way, every tool you use to tighten spokes is a spoke tightening tool by definition. The only way one could say 'yes' to your question is to use bare hands. It would be stretching to call those a tool. Klaas Bil - Newsgroup Addict -- I have a feeling you might need two points of contact with the ground for such a thing to work? Or at least training wheels on the front and rear. - John Foss commenting on a picture of a one-wheeled vehicle he saw on RSU. |
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You can use a (preferably small) cresent wrench. Keep it adjusted tight, or you will round off the nipples. I've done this, and it works in a pinch, but it is much less convenient then a spoke wrench (one has to keep adjusting the cresent wrench, and it does not fit easily between the spokes). -- duaner - - duaner. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ duaner's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/4297 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/30394 |
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I'm fairly sure that you should use the special kind of tightener with the torque meter. I believe unevenly tightend spokes van result in a bent rim. Someone please confirm this -- thin_air - ride the wheel If you come to a fork in the road... take it ------------------------------------------------------------------------ thin_air's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/4504 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/30394 |
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thin_air writes:
I'm fairly sure that you should use the special kind of tightener with the torque meter. I believe unevenly tightend spokes van result in a bent rim. Someone please confirm this Tension (the force pulling on the neds of the spoke), not torque (a sort of radial force turning, say, the nipple) is what is measured. The device used is called a spoke tensiometer, but I've heard they don't work on small wheels (don't know about a 24"). To get the tension right, I go by feel and sound. The spokes should make a nice ringing sound, ideally all about the same pitch. I go for a slightly higher pitch that you'd hear in run of the mill wheels, the theory being that tighter is better as long as the wheel doesn't deform. Last time I built a wheel I had my LBS check it with a tensiometer, and it read 150* while they recommended 130. I'm happy with the extra tension. Oh yeah, you can take your wheel to a friendly LBS and have them measure the tension for you. Anyway, here's the critical part: TENSION IS ONLY ONE OF FOUR VARIABLES YOU NEED TO KEEP UNDER CONTROL WHEN BUILDING OR REPAIRING A WHEEL. You also have to keep the wheel round (same distance from the hub along the circumference); true side to side; and symmetrically dished (same distance to each crank). All of these factors are controlled by varying the length/tension of the spokes. Fortunately, you can adjust them somewhat independantly of each other. See the sheldonbrown.com wheelbuilding page for some good instructions. Good luck. Ken * I thinks they said kilograms, but the unit should be newtons or pounds force |
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thin_air wrote: *I'm fairly sure that you should use the special kind of tightener with the torque meter. I believe unevenly tightend spokes van result in a bent rim. Someone please confirm this * a torque setting would be ineffective, as you would not be measuring the tension on the spokes, but the torque of the spoke nipple. for example, a loose spoke that had a rusty, stuck nipple would register as a higher (and therefore apparently tighter) torqued spoke, and not a stuck nipple. There are tools called tensiometers (sp?) that guage the spoke tension by 'plucking' each spoke giving a number. if all spokes are tensioned properly on a perfectly true wheel, each spoke would register the same number when 'plucked' An easy way to remember which direction to work (thus saving you from having to remove the tire. If you have the wheel set in front of you in a truing stand (or a clamp holding onto the frame, and using the inverted frame as a truing stand, here's something you can remember remember righty-tighty lefty loosey? if you are doing nipples above the hub, this is true if you are doing nipples under the hub, the reverse is true. -- Sofa - You Tu Tu Tuni? 'Unicycle Product Reviews' (http://www.brianmackenzie.com/LUC/unicycleReviews.aspx) 'London Unicycling Club Website ' (http://www.brianmackenzie.com/LUC/) version 3.0 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sofa's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/706 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/30394 |
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