Human food used to make car fuel while people abroad starve.

On Mar 8, 1:52*pm, thirty-six wrote:
On Mar 8, 12:31*pm, Simon Mason wrote:





On Mar 8, 10:59*am, "Paul - xxx" wrote:

Doug wrote:
They feed it to animals too! Meat eaters take note.

"An East Yorkshire biofuel plant has told Yorkshire and Lincolnshire
farmers that its use of locally-produced wheat will boost their
businesses.

The area is one of the country's biggest producers of wheat, currently
used for animal feed.

Vivergo at Saltend, near Hull, said it aimed to use 1.1m tonnes of
wheat per year to make renewable fuel.

Excellent news .. thanks for posting it. *

Glad to be of service - I helped in the R+D for that plant, but the
BIG money spinner will be a maize to biobutanol plant.
Ethanol can only be used in small doses in conventional engines, but
butanol can be used neat.

Mexican VW engines will run on ethanol or petrol or a combination.


Indeed, but the majority of IC engines in much of the rest of the
world can't run on neat ethanol as it is too corrosive for a start.
Biobutanol is the way forward, it does absorb water when it is in
storage either..

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Simon Mason

On Mar 8, 6:48*am, Doug wrote:
They feed it to animals too! Meat eaters take note.

"An East Yorkshire biofuel plant has told Yorkshire and Lincolnshire
farmers that its use of locally-produced wheat will boost their
businesses.


It is opening soon,
I have been tapped up for a lab manager's job there as I know the head
gaffer there, but it does not pay as much as when I already get and
they don't have a share scheme or a free pension, so they can go and
whistle.

http://www.thisishullandeastriding.c...ail/story.html

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Simon Mason

On Mar 8, 10:59*am, "Paul - xxx" wrote:
Doug wrote:
They feed it to animals too! Meat eaters take note.

"An East Yorkshire biofuel plant has told Yorkshire and Lincolnshire
farmers that its use of locally-produced wheat will boost their
businesses.

The area is one of the country's biggest producers of wheat, currently
used for animal feed.

Vivergo at Saltend, near Hull, said it aimed to use 1.1m tonnes of
wheat per year to make renewable fuel.

Excellent news .. thanks for posting it. *

What's good about it? I thought you motorists here didn't believe in
global warming, or don't want to because you seriously pollute, more
like. Many of you also argue against the use of renewables, when it
suits you. Make up your minds.

-- .
Feed people not cars.

On Mar 8, 1:50*pm, thirty-six wrote:
On Mar 8, 6:48*am, Doug wrote:









They feed it to animals too! Meat eaters take note.

"An East Yorkshire biofuel plant has told Yorkshire and Lincolnshire
farmers that its use of locally-produced wheat will boost their
businesses.

The area is one of the country's biggest producers of wheat, currently
used for animal feed.

Vivergo at Saltend, near Hull, said it aimed to use 1.1m tonnes of
wheat per year to make renewable fuel.

The high starch content of the region's wheat makes it ideal for
bioethanol, the company said.

Farmer and National Farmers' Union representative Ian Backhouse said:
"To have a customer on our doorstep taking the volumes of wheat
they're talking about is really good news for local farmers."..."

"...Up to 5% of bioethanol can currently be blended with regular fuel
for use in any petrol-based car engine but this may increase to 10% to
meet renewable energy targets, according to the AA..."

Mohttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-17288044

-- .
Feed people not cars.

It's pushed up the cost of green barley for which barley malt has
followed and helped push up the cost of our national staple food, beer.

Yes prices the starving millions can't afford.

Doug.

On Mar 8, 6:46*pm, Tony Dragon wrote:
On 08/03/2012 06:48, Doug wrote:

They feed it to animals too! Meat eaters take note.

"An East Yorkshire biofuel plant has told Yorkshire and Lincolnshire
farmers that its use of locally-produced wheat will boost their
businesses.

Sounds good.



The area is one of the country's biggest producers of wheat, currently
used for animal feed.

Vivergo at Saltend, near Hull, said it aimed to use 1.1m tonnes of
wheat per year to make renewable fuel.

The high starch content of the region's wheat makes it ideal for
bioethanol, the company said.

Farmer and National Farmers' Union representative Ian Backhouse said:
"To have a customer on our doorstep taking the volumes of wheat
they're talking about is really good news for local farmers."..."

So another plus.



"...Up to 5% of bioethanol can currently be blended with regular fuel
for use in any petrol-based car engine but this may increase to 10% to
meet renewable energy targets, according to the AA..."

Mo
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-17288044

-- .
Feed people not cars.

But the wheat is not at present used for people.

If it wasn't fed to cars it would be used for people.

But more to the point, are you saying that the farmers are cyclists, or
the animals are cyclists, or the plant owners are cyclists, if none of
these then why post it to a cycling NG?

Because this newsgroup is infested by lots of motorists, some of whom
also pretend to be cyclists, and as motorists they pose a potential
threat to vulnerable cyclists.

-- .
Feed people not cars.

On Mar 9, 5:05*am, Simon Mason wrote:
On Mar 8, 6:48*am, Doug wrote:

They feed it to animals too! Meat eaters take note.

"An East Yorkshire biofuel plant has told Yorkshire and Lincolnshire
farmers that its use of locally-produced wheat will boost their
businesses.

It is opening soon,
I have been tapped up for a lab manager's job there as I know the head
gaffer there, but it does not pay as much as when I already get and
they don't have a share scheme or a free pension, so they can go and
whistle.

http://www.thisishullandeastriding.c...-Saltend-bioet...

Good for you, not to want to be associated with such crazy greenwash.

-- .
Feed people not cars.

On Mar 9, 7:01*am, Doug wrote:
On Mar 9, 5:05*am, Simon Mason wrote:



On Mar 8, 6:48*am, Doug wrote:

They feed it to animals too! Meat eaters take note.

"An East Yorkshire biofuel plant has told Yorkshire and Lincolnshire
farmers that its use of locally-produced wheat will boost their
businesses.

It is opening soon,
I have been tapped up for a lab manager's job there as I know the head
gaffer there, but it does not pay as much as when I already get and
they don't have a share scheme or a free pension, so they can go and
whistle.

http://www.thisishullandeastriding.c...-Saltend-bioet...

Good for you, not to want to be associated with such crazy greenwash.

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Feed people not cars.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It was not to do with me being anti greenwash.
If they had waved enough cash in front of me I'd have gone.
And don't forget that I work for a huge oil company as it is - a trip
across the road would really have made me greener at a stroke.

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Simon Mason

Doug wrote:
On Mar 8, 1:50 pm, thirty-six wrote:
On Mar 8, 6:48 am, Doug wrote:









They feed it to animals too! Meat eaters take note.

"An East Yorkshire biofuel plant has told Yorkshire and Lincolnshire
farmers that its use of locally-produced wheat will boost their
businesses.

The area is one of the country's biggest producers of wheat,
currently used for animal feed.

Vivergo at Saltend, near Hull, said it aimed to use 1.1m tonnes of
wheat per year to make renewable fuel.

The high starch content of the region's wheat makes it ideal for
bioethanol, the company said.

Farmer and National Farmers' Union representative Ian Backhouse
said: "To have a customer on our doorstep taking the volumes of
wheat they're talking about is really good news for local
farmers."..."

"...Up to 5% of bioethanol can currently be blended with regular
fuel for use in any petrol-based car engine but this may increase
to 10% to meet renewable energy targets, according to the AA..."

Mohttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-17288044

-- .
Feed people not cars.

It's pushed up the cost of green barley for which barley malt has
followed and helped push up the cost of our national staple food,
beer.

Yes prices the starving millions can't afford.

Doug.

The starving millions in other coutries are largely a result of too much
health care resulting in too many children surviving. The only answer is
either stop the 'health' care, or stop them breeding. Get the numbers down
and they will be able to survive on the resources they actually have.

On Mar 9, 8:04*am, "Paul - xxx" wrote:
Doug wrote:
On Mar 8, 10:59*am, "Paul - xxx" wrote:
Doug wrote:
They feed it to animals too! Meat eaters take note.

"An East Yorkshire biofuel plant has told Yorkshire and
Lincolnshire farmers that its use of locally-produced wheat will
boost their businesses.

The area is one of the country's biggest producers of wheat,
currently used for animal feed.

Vivergo at Saltend, near Hull, said it aimed to use 1.1m tonnes of
wheat per year to make renewable fuel.

Excellent news .. thanks for posting it. *

What's good about it?

It's a renewable energy source.

I thought you motorists here didn't believe in
global warming,

WTF has gw got to do with the above article?

or don't want to because you seriously pollute, more
like.

Nothing wrong with gw, it's the causes of it that I dispute.

Many of you also argue against the use of renewables, when it
suits you. Make up your minds.

When? where? I'd love to use renewable energy for everything, it simply
isn't possible yet.

Why do you always apply blanket arguments to specific replies? *It
simply doesn't work that way.


Plus it will bring hundreds of jobs into the local economy.
Shame about the congestion on the roads though - if Dr Beeching had
not had his way, the wheat could have all come via railcars.

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Simon Mason

On Thu, 8 Mar 2012 21:05:46 -0800 (PST), Simon Mason
wrote:

On Mar 8, 6:48*am, Doug wrote:
They feed it to animals too! Meat eaters take note.

"An East Yorkshire biofuel plant has told Yorkshire and Lincolnshire
farmers that its use of locally-produced wheat will boost their
businesses.


It is opening soon,
I have been tapped up for a lab manager's job there as I know the head
gaffer there


Yes of course you have.

It will be the man-management skills which you have demonstrated here, your
ability to get on with other people, and your general common sense which will
have appealed to them.

Perhaps they do not know of your trait of lying to your current management :-)



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Mason is in denial - he is an alcoholic.
He claims that he drinks ten to twelve pints
a night and that it does him no harm.
He needs to seek help.