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  #11  
Old July 5th 19, 12:47 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
TMS320
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On 04/07/2019 23:32, JNugent wrote:
On 04/07/2019 17:30, TMS320 wrote:
On 04/07/2019 14:32, JNugent wrote:
On 04/07/2019 13:05, TMS320 wrote:
On 04/07/2019 12:34, MrCheerful wrote:

why was the cyclist obstructing faster moving traffic?* He should
have just pulled over to let the guy through, making rude gestures
and weaving around is bound to annoy someone.

One of them caused harm and broke the law. Which one was it?

It sounds as though they both broke the law.

Doesn't it?


No.


You are wrong yet again (though you know that and are just being childish).

Wilful obstruction of the highway is an offence.


There probably is such an offence but you appear to be in fantasy land.
There is no suggestion that Her Majesty found him guilty of such an
offence. You're justifying a criminal's actions again.

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  #12  
Old July 5th 19, 02:20 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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Default Loopy driver "faces jailtime"

On 05/07/2019 00:47, TMS320 wrote:
On 04/07/2019 23:32, JNugent wrote:
On 04/07/2019 17:30, TMS320 wrote:
On 04/07/2019 14:32, JNugent wrote:
On 04/07/2019 13:05, TMS320 wrote:
On 04/07/2019 12:34, MrCheerful wrote:

why was the cyclist obstructing faster moving traffic?* He should
have just pulled over to let the guy through, making rude gestures
and weaving around is bound to annoy someone.

One of them caused harm and broke the law. Which one was it?

It sounds as though they both broke the law.

Doesn't it?

No.


You are wrong yet again (though you know that and are just being
childish).

Wilful obstruction of the highway is an offence.


There probably is such an offence but you appear to be in fantasy land.
There is no suggestion that Her Majesty found him guilty of such an
offence. You're justifying a criminal's actions again.


No-one said he had been convicted. You're off on one of your fantasy
trails again.
  #13  
Old July 5th 19, 07:48 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
TMS320
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Default Loopy driver "faces jailtime"

On 05/07/2019 02:20, JNugent wrote:
On 05/07/2019 00:47, TMS320 wrote:
On 04/07/2019 23:32, JNugent wrote:
On 04/07/2019 17:30, TMS320 wrote:
On 04/07/2019 14:32, JNugent wrote:
On 04/07/2019 13:05, TMS320 wrote:
On 04/07/2019 12:34, MrCheerful wrote:

why was the cyclist obstructing faster moving traffic?* He should
have just pulled over to let the guy through, making rude
gestures and weaving around is bound to annoy someone.

One of them caused harm and broke the law. Which one was it?

It sounds as though they both broke the law.

Doesn't it?

No.

You are wrong yet again (though you know that and are just being
childish).

Wilful obstruction of the highway is an offence.


There probably is such an offence but you appear to be in fantasy
land. There is no suggestion that Her Majesty found him guilty of such
an offence. You're justifying a criminal's actions again.


No-one said he had been convicted.


Correct. Then he committed no offence.

You're off on one of your fantasy
trails again.


Perhaps I made the mistake of imagining that the law of this land is
innocent until proven guilty.

  #14  
Old July 6th 19, 12:35 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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Default Loopy driver "faces jailtime"

On 05/07/2019 19:48, TMS320 wrote:
On 05/07/2019 02:20, JNugent wrote:
On 05/07/2019 00:47, TMS320 wrote:
On 04/07/2019 23:32, JNugent wrote:
On 04/07/2019 17:30, TMS320 wrote:
On 04/07/2019 14:32, JNugent wrote:
On 04/07/2019 13:05, TMS320 wrote:
On 04/07/2019 12:34, MrCheerful wrote:

why was the cyclist obstructing faster moving traffic?* He
should have just pulled over to let the guy through, making rude
gestures and weaving around is bound to annoy someone.

One of them caused harm and broke the law. Which one was it?

It sounds as though they both broke the law.

Doesn't it?

No.

You are wrong yet again (though you know that and are just being
childish).

Wilful obstruction of the highway is an offence.

There probably is such an offence but you appear to be in fantasy
land. There is no suggestion that Her Majesty found him guilty of
such an offence. You're justifying a criminal's actions again.


No-one said he had been convicted.


Correct. Then he committed no offence.


You are committing the OJ Simpson fallacy.

Remember: if "no conviction" means "no offence committed", than hardly
anyone ever breaks a speed limit.

You're off on one of your fantasy trails again.


Perhaps I made the mistake of imagining that the law of this land is
innocent until proven guilty.


Substitute the (correct) word "unless" for "until", and you are almost
correct for legal purposes.

And so hardly any driver ever breaks a speed limit.

Don't blame me.

*You* started it.


  #15  
Old July 6th 19, 08:38 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
TMS320
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On 06/07/2019 00:35, JNugent wrote:
On 05/07/2019 19:48, TMS320 wrote:
On 05/07/2019 02:20, JNugent wrote:
On 05/07/2019 00:47, TMS320 wrote:
On 04/07/2019 23:32, JNugent wrote:
On 04/07/2019 17:30, TMS320 wrote:
On 04/07/2019 14:32, JNugent wrote:
On 04/07/2019 13:05, TMS320 wrote:
On 04/07/2019 12:34, MrCheerful wrote:

why was the cyclist obstructing faster moving traffic?* He
should have just pulled over to let the guy through, making
rude gestures and weaving around is bound to annoy someone.

One of them caused harm and broke the law. Which one was it?

It sounds as though they both broke the law.

Doesn't it?

No.

You are wrong yet again (though you know that and are just being
childish).

Wilful obstruction of the highway is an offence.

There probably is such an offence but you appear to be in fantasy
land. There is no suggestion that Her Majesty found him guilty of
such an offence. You're justifying a criminal's actions again.

No-one said he had been convicted.


Correct. Then he committed no offence.


You are committing the OJ Simpson fallacy.

Remember: if "no conviction" means "no offence committed", than hardly
anyone ever breaks a speed limit.

You're off on one of your fantasy trails again.


Perhaps I made the mistake of imagining that the law of this land is
innocent until proven guilty.


Substitute the (correct) word "unless" for "until", and you are almost
correct for legal purposes.

And so hardly any driver ever breaks a speed limit...


.... and cyclists don't ride on pavements or go past red traffic lights.

On the other hand, speeding is very easy measure objectively. Whereas
just because Nugent believes that a cyclist doing 15mph while not having
a safe place to move over is causing an obstruction does not mean it
would pass any test of obstruction.

Besides, since the driver stopped to assault the boy after mowing him
down, shows there was no time pressure in the situation. There is no
offence of causing a driver's willy to shrivel.

Don't blame me.

*You* started it.

You will have to do better than that after telling somebody they are
being childish.

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Old July 8th 19, 07:03 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Ian Smith
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On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 20:38:19 +0100, TMS320 wrote:

Besides, since the driver stopped to assault the boy after mowing him
down, shows there was no time pressure in the situation. There is no
offence of causing a driver's willy to shrivel.


I don't know why you try and argue with someone who seeks to defend a
driver getting getting out of their car and punching a child in the
face. They are clearly not going to be convinced by any rational
discourse. Ignore him/her and give us all a break.

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Old July 8th 19, 01:46 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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On 08/07/2019 07:03, Ian Smith wrote:

On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 20:38:19 +0100, TMS320 wrote:

Besides, since the driver stopped to assault the boy after mowing him
down, shows there was no time pressure in the situation. There is no
offence of causing a driver's willy to shrivel.


I don't know why you try and argue with someone who seeks to defend a
driver getting getting out of their car and punching a child in the
face. They are clearly not going to be convinced by any rational
discourse. Ignore him/her and give us all a break.


Has anyone in fact spoken a single word in defence of that person
convicted of assault?

Not that I can see. But perhaps you've seen something I haven't.

My sole contribution on that subject was that the person convicted will
probably get 12 months, and maybe more.


  #18  
Old July 9th 19, 09:07 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
TMS320
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On 08/07/2019 07:03, Ian Smith wrote:
On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 20:38:19 +0100, TMS320 wrote:

Besides, since the driver stopped to assault the boy after mowing him
down, shows there was no time pressure in the situation. There is no
offence of causing a driver's willy to shrivel.


I don't know why you try and argue with someone who seeks to defend a
driver getting getting out of their car and punching a child in the
face. They are clearly not going to be convinced by any rational
discourse. Ignore him/her and give us all a break.


Yes, he's like a wasp at a picnic table. It's difficult to get the right
balance but you don't have to read it.
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Old July 9th 19, 12:18 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Ian Smith
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Default Loopy driver "faces jailtime"

On Tue, 9 Jul 2019 09:07:17 +0100, TMS320 wrote:
On 08/07/2019 07:03, Ian Smith wrote:
On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 20:38:19 +0100, TMS320 wrote:

Besides, since the driver stopped to assault the boy after mowing him
down, shows there was no time pressure in the situation. There is no
offence of causing a driver's willy to shrivel.


I don't know why you try and argue with someone who seeks to defend a
driver getting getting out of their car and punching a child in the
face. They are clearly not going to be convinced by any rational
discourse. Ignore him/her and give us all a break.


Yes, he's like a wasp at a picnic table. It's difficult to get the right
balance but you don't have to read it.


That's like saying I don't need to worry about the turd floating in
the swimming pool becasue I don't need to look at it.
As I said, give us all a break, please.


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Old July 25th 19, 02:59 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Rob Morley
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On Tue, 9 Jul 2019 11:18:41 -0000 (UTC)
Ian Smith wrote:

That's like saying I don't need to worry about the turd floating in
the swimming pool becasue I don't need to look at it.
As I said, give us all a break, please.

When I checked for the first time in a a few days I was astounded at
the amount of ******** in this group, then realised that I'd forgotten
to apply my filters. click click ;-)

 




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