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On Wed, 26 Jun 2019 15:10:12 +0000 (UTC), David Scheidt
wrote: John B. wrote: :In fact you can even buy a pickup truck with an automatic :transmission. In the US, you can't buy a real working pickup with a manual. Some toy showoff version was available with one, but not any more. i think the midsized toyota is available iwtha manual. I don't know about more recent pickups but my 10 year old Isuzu pickup with automatic transmission is exactly the same engine, chassis, suspension, body work, etc., as the manual shift model. -- cheers, John B. |
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On Wed, 26 Jun 2019 08:30:19 -0700, sms
wrote: On 6/26/2019 8:10 AM, David Scheidt wrote: John B. wrote: :In fact you can even buy a pickup truck with an automatic :transmission. In the US, you can't buy a real working pickup with a manual. Some toy showoff version was available with one, but not any more. i think the midsized toyota is available iwtha manual. https://news.pickuptrucks.com/2019/03/why-the-full-size-trucks-manual-transmission-is-dead.html I'm going back 15 or 20 years now, but I worked in a copper mine, in Irian Jaya, and the 50 ton dump trucks that hauled the ore from the pit to the first crusher were Allison automatic transmission equipped, and at least some of the buses that hauled the workers from the camp site to the mine were also Allison equipped. -- cheers, John B. |
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On Monday, June 24, 2019 at 12:00:54 AM UTC+1, John B. wrote:
the world is changing and unless you keep up with it you are "stupid" in the sense that you know less than someone with a more modern education. Nonsense. The problem with a modern education (maybe not in engineering faculties though I don't know) is that everything is now a social justice problem, including pure math (!). The little social justice warriors that come from our (once) finest colleges aren't educated so much as made woke, not even suitable for social work. Some of the worst should have a couple of years as a parole officer to turn them into adults.. Andre Jute Analytical thinking is now an "aggression" |
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On 6/27/2019 7:10 AM, Andre Jute wrote:
On Monday, June 24, 2019 at 12:00:54 AM UTC+1, John B. wrote: the world is changing and unless you keep up with it you are "stupid" in the sense that you know less than someone with a more modern education. Nonsense. The problem with a modern education (maybe not in engineering faculties though I don't know) is that everything is now a social justice problem, including pure math (!). The little social justice warriors that come from our (once) finest colleges aren't educated so much as made woke, not even suitable for social work. Some of the worst should have a couple of years as a parole officer to turn them into adults.. Andre Jute Analytical thinking is now an "aggression" +1 -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On 6/27/2019 9:59 AM, wrote:
snip But they are all available with an AT but people, - feel manly to stick shift, - find AT too expensive, - don't know what they are missing and think AT are still slow and sluggish. If I simulate my manual shift from my driveway to the main road about 400 m away it would be: r-1-2-3-2-Corner-3-4-2-speedbump-2-3-4-2-speedbump-3-4-2-corner to main road 15 manual shift in only 400 meter. Crazy. Automatic transmission: choose sport setting or leaving the default comfort setting R-D done! Not disagreeing that an AT is a better choice. And for vehicles with a good AT it'll end up costing less because it'll last longer than a clutch replacement on an MT. But some vehicles have had problematic ATs i.e. Hondas from 1998 to 2004. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On Thursday, June 27, 2019 at 1:47:46 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 6/26/2019 5:26 PM, wrote: I see no reason today for manual shifting except for sentimental reasons and that it is cheaper (2000 -3000 euro's). Modern automatic transmission outperform manual shifting in every way, at least the one I'm driving now.. Here's my situation: We drive a Mazda 3. We have a tiny pop-up camping trailer. It weighs only 750 pounds empty. The Mazda's stated towing capacity is zero, although I've been told that if I had bought the exact same vehicle in Europe, it's towing capacity would be listed as 500 kg, which is plenty. I put a trailer hitch on this car as soon as I got it, and we've towed the trailer as far as Nova Scotia. I knew I was violating the warranty, but I judged it worth the risk. If the car had an automatic transmission, I don't know if I'd make that same judgement. Why? Towing trailers in hilly terrain is a clutch killer, and typically cars with ATs have higher towing capacity than the same model with a MT because of the AT torque converter. I don't see why having a MT would make you feel more positive about towing -- particularly on a car that probably has a pretty low-torque first gear since it is just a family sedan and not a truck. -- Jay Beattie. |
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On 6/27/2019 3:00 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, June 27, 2019 at 1:47:46 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 6/26/2019 5:26 PM, wrote: I see no reason today for manual shifting except for sentimental reasons and that it is cheaper (2000 -3000 euro's). Modern automatic transmission outperform manual shifting in every way, at least the one I'm driving now. Here's my situation: We drive a Mazda 3. We have a tiny pop-up camping trailer. It weighs only 750 pounds empty. The Mazda's stated towing capacity is zero, although I've been told that if I had bought the exact same vehicle in Europe, it's towing capacity would be listed as 500 kg, which is plenty. I put a trailer hitch on this car as soon as I got it, and we've towed the trailer as far as Nova Scotia. I knew I was violating the warranty, but I judged it worth the risk. If the car had an automatic transmission, I don't know if I'd make that same judgement. Why? Towing trailers in hilly terrain is a clutch killer, and typically cars with ATs have higher towing capacity than the same model with a MT because of the AT torque converter. I don't see why having a MT would make you feel more positive about towing -- particularly on a car that probably has a pretty low-torque first gear since it is just a family sedan and not a truck. True. And one of the reasons there are no manual transmission trucks sold in the U.S. anymore. The only reason for a manual is off-road driving in low gear. You can still buy a Jeep Wrangler with a manual, in fact not sure if they even offer an automatic. |
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