CO2 Connectors - Threaded vs Unthreaded

On Tuesday, July 16, 2019 at 7:28:33 AM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, July 16, 2019 at 6:56:11 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Monday, July 15, 2019 at 5:20:04 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jul 2019 15:20:57 -0700 (PDT), Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On Monday, July 15, 2019 at 6:09:22 PM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jul 2019 13:05:17 -0000 (UTC), dave
wrote:

On Sat, 13 Jul 2019 17:01:15 +0200, Tosspot wrote:

A discussion down there --v or up there --^ reminded me CO2 cartridges
come in a least two connectors, threaded and not. I've been caught by
this.

Why the difference? Who cam first?

The chicken.

But where did the chicken come from? The Ark :-?

The scientists say the egg came way before the chicken, because animals much
more primitive than chickens had been laying eggs for millions of years
before there were birds of any kind.

But those people saying that are evil evolutionists. They don't understand that
God put fossils in the ground to test our faith. He's infinitely tricky!

- Frank Krygowski

On the other hand if the Christian/Jewish/Moslem God made the universe
and everything in it might he/she/it have created lizards and as
he/she/it rested on the seventh day might that be interpreted as the
period from the creation to modern times giving those pesky lizards
time to grow feathers and learn to fly?
--
cheers,

John B.

Never having read the Bible you can be excused for not having even an inkling what is in it.

I've read the Bible. I've even read the Book of Mormon. O.K., part of it and even parts of the Koran and parts of Buddhist and Hindu texts. I've also read "Horton Hears a Who!" I'm not sure which one is the best scientific text.

BTW, I stood on Charles Darwin's grave at Westminster Abby. Take that!

And evolution is all around us -- bacteria, viruses, plants and animals. Go to Death Valley and look at the pupfish. https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016...dred-years-ago I have. Go there and say hello to my little evolving friends.

-- Jay Beattie.

Jay, I realize that you aren't any kind of scientist, but let me repeat, there has NEVER been a single case of evolution showing speciation.
We SUPPOSE that enough evolution will end in such a thing. Well, we have literally billions of species on this planet and we have never observed ONE single case of evolution leading to speciation.

Don't throw the Bible or the Koran and anyone because that has absolutely NOTHING to do with it. Charles Darwin invented a theory and in 200 years that theory not only hasn't been proven but we haven't even seen enough evolution among animals to suggest that speciation might occur one day.

The REAL problem here is the blind acceptance of a theory that hasn't shown the slightest proof.

That the African Elephant moving into southern Asia became an animal with much smaller ears is easily explainable via DNA - they ALL have a common ancestor and there was no evolutionary advantage to having smaller ears.

On Tuesday, July 16, 2019 at 12:11:49 PM UTC-7, Zen Cycle wrote:

My question would be - did you even read your so-called references? Hybrid Speciation is not evolution. In those articles they even SAY that sympatric speciation is still questioned by experts. Or are you an expert in the field of evolution?

On Tuesday, July 16, 2019 at 12:20:24 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Tuesday, July 16, 2019 at 7:28:33 AM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, July 16, 2019 at 6:56:11 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Monday, July 15, 2019 at 5:20:04 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jul 2019 15:20:57 -0700 (PDT), Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On Monday, July 15, 2019 at 6:09:22 PM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jul 2019 13:05:17 -0000 (UTC), dave
wrote:

On Sat, 13 Jul 2019 17:01:15 +0200, Tosspot wrote:

A discussion down there --v or up there --^ reminded me CO2 cartridges
come in a least two connectors, threaded and not. I've been caught by
this.

Why the difference? Who cam first?

The chicken.

But where did the chicken come from? The Ark :-?

The scientists say the egg came way before the chicken, because animals much
more primitive than chickens had been laying eggs for millions of years
before there were birds of any kind.

But those people saying that are evil evolutionists. They don't understand that
God put fossils in the ground to test our faith. He's infinitely tricky!

- Frank Krygowski

On the other hand if the Christian/Jewish/Moslem God made the universe
and everything in it might he/she/it have created lizards and as
he/she/it rested on the seventh day might that be interpreted as the
period from the creation to modern times giving those pesky lizards
time to grow feathers and learn to fly?
--
cheers,

John B.

Never having read the Bible you can be excused for not having even an inkling what is in it.

I've read the Bible. I've even read the Book of Mormon. O.K., part of it and even parts of the Koran and parts of Buddhist and Hindu texts. I've also read "Horton Hears a Who!" I'm not sure which one is the best scientific text.

BTW, I stood on Charles Darwin's grave at Westminster Abby. Take that!

And evolution is all around us -- bacteria, viruses, plants and animals.. Go to Death Valley and look at the pupfish. https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016...dred-years-ago I have. Go there and say hello to my little evolving friends.

-- Jay Beattie.

Jay, I realize that you aren't any kind of scientist, but let me repeat, there has NEVER been a single case of evolution showing speciation.
We SUPPOSE that enough evolution will end in such a thing. Well, we have literally billions of species on this planet and we have never observed ONE single case of evolution leading to speciation.

Don't throw the Bible or the Koran and anyone because that has absolutely NOTHING to do with it. Charles Darwin invented a theory and in 200 years that theory not only hasn't been proven but we haven't even seen enough evolution among animals to suggest that speciation might occur one day.

The REAL problem here is the blind acceptance of a theory that hasn't shown the slightest proof.

That the African Elephant moving into southern Asia became an animal with much smaller ears is easily explainable via DNA - they ALL have a common ancestor and there was no evolutionary advantage to having smaller ears.

Okey-dokey, so if all the elephants have a common ancestor, how do you explain the existence of two elephant species? Is someone out there running an African elephant ear chop-shop and creating phoney Asian elephants? Is it like the Piltdown man? I need to get to the TRUTH here!

I do know that Alex Jones evolved into a different species. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa9jXkVpnw0

-- Jay Beattie.

On Tuesday, July 16, 2019 at 3:11:49 PM UTC-4, Zen Cycle wrote:
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You really are a spectacularly stupid troll, kunich
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Trolls will KEEP ON TROLLING as long as people reply to them. If you want the Trolls to go way then "DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!" VBEG LOL

Cheers

On Tue, 16 Jul 2019 12:53:44 -0400, Duane
wrote:
Ludditicus? Must be new testament. Fake news. Old testament is the
juicy testament.

Kinda hard to follow the 613 rules and regulations of the old
testament:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/613_commandments#Canonical_order

Mo
"Biblical Meaning Of Bicycle In A Dream"
https://www.evangelistjoshua.com/dream-about-bicycle/

So, as long as you keep seeing your bicycle brake failing,
or its tire got flat over and over again, if you are a car
owner, it indicates a sign of accident, or a more serious
troubles.

Hmmm... flats are a bad thing. Perhaps I should carry both a CO2
un-flattener and a bicycle pump?

Take for instance, it is usually a bad sign for a car rider
to dream of riding a bicycle in the dream, this is not just
an ordinary dream. It means the person is about to experience
downfall, limitation and demotion.

I wonder if "car rider" means passenger, driver, or both?



--
Jeff Liebermann
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Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On 16/7/19 3:25 pm, John B. wrote:

:-) Not necessarily so. The sitting by the roadside in the rain I
described was two "finish nails" through the tire. Punctured the first
time, pulled the nail out changed the tube and almost exactly 1
kilometer down the road punctured again, the same kind of nail. I had
used up the only spare tube I was carrying, the patches won't stick,
it is raining.


I was riding with a couple of mates on a wet day and one of them had
three punctures. After emptying his two CO2 canisters on the first two
punctures, he begged for my pump. The patch worked too.

--
JS

On Tuesday, July 16, 2019 at 12:55:38 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, July 16, 2019 at 12:20:24 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Tuesday, July 16, 2019 at 7:28:33 AM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, July 16, 2019 at 6:56:11 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Monday, July 15, 2019 at 5:20:04 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jul 2019 15:20:57 -0700 (PDT), Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On Monday, July 15, 2019 at 6:09:22 PM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jul 2019 13:05:17 -0000 (UTC), dave
wrote:

On Sat, 13 Jul 2019 17:01:15 +0200, Tosspot wrote:

A discussion down there --v or up there --^ reminded me CO2 cartridges
come in a least two connectors, threaded and not. I've been caught by
this.

Why the difference? Who cam first?

The chicken.

But where did the chicken come from? The Ark :-?

The scientists say the egg came way before the chicken, because animals much
more primitive than chickens had been laying eggs for millions of years
before there were birds of any kind.

But those people saying that are evil evolutionists. They don't understand that
God put fossils in the ground to test our faith. He's infinitely tricky!

- Frank Krygowski

On the other hand if the Christian/Jewish/Moslem God made the universe
and everything in it might he/she/it have created lizards and as
he/she/it rested on the seventh day might that be interpreted as the
period from the creation to modern times giving those pesky lizards
time to grow feathers and learn to fly?
--
cheers,

John B.

Never having read the Bible you can be excused for not having even an inkling what is in it.

I've read the Bible. I've even read the Book of Mormon. O.K., part of it and even parts of the Koran and parts of Buddhist and Hindu texts. I've also read "Horton Hears a Who!" I'm not sure which one is the best scientific text.

BTW, I stood on Charles Darwin's grave at Westminster Abby. Take that!

And evolution is all around us -- bacteria, viruses, plants and animals. Go to Death Valley and look at the pupfish. https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016...dred-years-ago I have. Go there and say hello to my little evolving friends..

-- Jay Beattie.

Jay, I realize that you aren't any kind of scientist, but let me repeat, there has NEVER been a single case of evolution showing speciation.
We SUPPOSE that enough evolution will end in such a thing. Well, we have literally billions of species on this planet and we have never observed ONE single case of evolution leading to speciation.

Don't throw the Bible or the Koran and anyone because that has absolutely NOTHING to do with it. Charles Darwin invented a theory and in 200 years that theory not only hasn't been proven but we haven't even seen enough evolution among animals to suggest that speciation might occur one day.

The REAL problem here is the blind acceptance of a theory that hasn't shown the slightest proof.

That the African Elephant moving into southern Asia became an animal with much smaller ears is easily explainable via DNA - they ALL have a common ancestor and there was no evolutionary advantage to having smaller ears.

Okey-dokey, so if all the elephants have a common ancestor, how do you explain the existence of two elephant species? Is someone out there running an African elephant ear chop-shop and creating phoney Asian elephants? Is it like the Piltdown man? I need to get to the TRUTH here!

I do know that Alex Jones evolved into a different species. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa9jXkVpnw0

-- Jay Beattie.

Jay, this is PROBABLY a case of natural selection. Remember that even creationists do not deny natural selection. Survival of the fittest means that the three or four families of Asian Elephants evolved to meet their environment. That it is pretty clear that there was little predation in Asia (except for tigers) whereas in Africa there are a LOT of predators. (From memory I think that only one of every three African elephant cubs survive even though the African elephant is the most powerful creature outside of the hippo - or those creatures in Area 51. Asian elephants eat grass. They are therefore smaller since grass is nutrient poor. They require less support since they are lighter and hence have fewer toes. The bump on the forehead of the Asian elephant is nothing more than inheritance. Does your son look like you?

It is VERY important to note that NATURAL SELECTION is NOT "evolution" in the way that Darwin believed. Also the occasional hybridization that sticks isn't evolution but a side effect of the far more simple DNA chains in plants.
I suppose this occurred with animals as well but far less often.

I am neutral on the subject no matter how much you and John the idiot (I suppose you sold at the bottom of the market) want to imply otherwise. And in order for evolution to actually work if indeed it does, life HAD to be present to begin with. Where did all of the energy and matter that makes up the universe come from? There is NO "Big Bang" if there is no source of energy.

My comments were concerning the absolute gullibility of people. They were told at some time that something was that way and they never questioned it.

All the money I made was from questioning even the simplest thing.

On Tue, 16 Jul 2019 06:56:10 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Monday, July 15, 2019 at 5:20:04 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jul 2019 15:20:57 -0700 (PDT), Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On Monday, July 15, 2019 at 6:09:22 PM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jul 2019 13:05:17 -0000 (UTC), dave
wrote:

On Sat, 13 Jul 2019 17:01:15 +0200, Tosspot wrote:

A discussion down there --v or up there --^ reminded me CO2 cartridges
come in a least two connectors, threaded and not. I've been caught by
this.

Why the difference? Who cam first?

The chicken.

But where did the chicken come from? The Ark :-?

The scientists say the egg came way before the chicken, because animals much
more primitive than chickens had been laying eggs for millions of years
before there were birds of any kind.

But those people saying that are evil evolutionists. They don't understand that
God put fossils in the ground to test our faith. He's infinitely tricky!

- Frank Krygowski

On the other hand if the Christian/Jewish/Moslem God made the universe
and everything in it might he/she/it have created lizards and as
he/she/it rested on the seventh day might that be interpreted as the
period from the creation to modern times giving those pesky lizards
time to grow feathers and learn to fly?
--
cheers,

John B.

Never having read the Bible you can be excused for not having even an inkling what is in it.

What is the argument here? Are you arguing that your
Christian/Jewish/Moslem God did not create the universe and everything
in it?
--
cheers,

John B.

On Tue, 16 Jul 2019 06:57:27 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Monday, July 15, 2019 at 5:30:21 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jul 2019 16:10:42 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Monday, July 15, 2019 at 3:20:58 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On Monday, July 15, 2019 at 6:09:22 PM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jul 2019 13:05:17 -0000 (UTC), dave
wrote:

On Sat, 13 Jul 2019 17:01:15 +0200, Tosspot wrote:

A discussion down there --v or up there --^ reminded me CO2 cartridges
come in a least two connectors, threaded and not. I've been caught by
this.

Why the difference? Who cam first?

The chicken.

But where did the chicken come from? The Ark :-?

The scientists say the egg came way before the chicken, because animals much
more primitive than chickens had been laying eggs for millions of years
before there were birds of any kind.

But those people saying that are evil evolutionists. They don't understand that
God put fossils in the ground to test our faith. He's infinitely tricky!

- Frank Krygowski

Show us ONE proof that ANY evolution ever led to a new species. That has NEVER been found and the theory of evolution is still noting more than a theory.

They can show that modern man has DNA sequences that are the same as
ancient man like creatures:

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/ar...l.pone.0002700
We typed the mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) hypervariable region I in a
28,000 years old Cro-Magnoid individual from the Paglicci cave, in
Italy...

The Paglicci 23 individual carried a mtDNA sequence that is still
common in Europe, and which radically differs from those of the almost
contemporary Neandertals, demonstrating a genealogical continuity
across 28,000 years, from Cro-Magnoid to modern Europeans.
--
cheers,

John B.

So perhaps you'd like to tell us what that is supposed to mean since 90% of DNA is nothing more than noise?

But Tom I did tell you - "carried a mtDNA sequence that is still
common in Europe"... And since you are too lazy (or too dumb) to look
it up I did it for you and:

quote---
Human mitochondrial DNA was the first significant part of the human
genome to be sequenced.[4] This sequencing revealed that the human
mtDNA includes 16,569 base pairs and encodes 13 proteins.

Since animal mtDNA evolves faster than nuclear genetic markers, it
represents a mainstay of phylogenetics and evolutionary biology. It
also permits an examination of the relatedness of populations, and so
has become important in anthropology and biogeography.
unquote ---

Now, if you don't understand all those big word let me know and I'll
research them for you.
--
cheers,

John B.

On Tue, 16 Jul 2019 09:03:30 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
wrote:

On Tue, 16 Jul 2019 12:25:53 +0700, John B.
wrote:
Since that rainy morning I carry spare tubes and CO2 cartridges.
And, I used to also carry a pump. But I gave that up after a couple of
years with no punctures at all :-)

That's because your spare tubes and CO2 cartridges act as a talisman
to ward way evil spirits and bad luck. As long as you carry those
spares, you will not have any flat tires. However, should you forget
and ride without them for even one day, you will surely get a flat
tire on that day.

The best response seems to be "Use whatever works". After all, blood
on the door jam, keeps the first born sons alive.

If CO2 tubes prevent flat tires than I'm in favor. In fact I have two,
screwed into mounts that in turn bolted to the frame so I'll never be
without them. I am assuming that if one is good than two is double
good.


I have two spare tubes and two CO2 cartridges on each bike and (knock
on wood) I haven't , so far, needed the second tube.

My problem is that everything I own leaks. My car radiator leaks, my
A/C coolant leaks, my garbage dolly tires leak, my house plumbing
leaks, all my water bottles drip, etc. Of course, my bicycle inner
tubes also leak. While CO2 is quite practical for refilling empty
tubes after a puncture patch, it's totally useless for dealing with
leaky inner tubes, where "topping off" with a hand or floor pump is
far more practical. Therefore, I do not own a CO2 inflator and only
carry whichever hand pump best color matches my current choice of ride
and atti
http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/pics/bicycles/misc/slides/bicycle-pumps.html
The situation is unlikely to change because I have a supply of genuine
leaky Nashbar inner tubes. I'll probably never need a CO2 inflator
because it's difficult to get a flat on a partially inflated leaky
tube.
--
cheers,

John B.